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Date: 08 Nov 2006 19:11:55
From: fixedgear
Subject: Which MLG kit do you guys have?
I'm finally going to do the whole pid and I was just curious if anyone
had anything to say about a particular kit?





 
Date: 09 Nov 2006 15:14:40
From: fixedgear
Subject: Re: Which MLG kit do you guys have?
Thanks again!



Craig Andrews wrote:
> "fixedgear" <tom5000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1163104078.846269.213540@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > Thanks guys. I was planning on a new kit, I just didn't know if it was
> > that big of a deal to see your pre-set and current temp at the same
> > time.
> > I've finally decided to do this because I've been going to a cafe taht
> > has Intelligentsia's Black Cat espresso and the difference between
> > there and home is amazing. Not to mention they have a Synesso machine.
> > Anyway, thanks again for the help. I'm off to PID land.
> >
>
> Yes, it is in MVHO. On the 2 line display you can watch the current temp
> when you're going to steam. The steam stat is 140=B0C, 284=B0F., so you c=
an
> crack open the steam valve just before the stat clicks off, to maximize
> steaming power by having the heating element on & continuing to add heat
> to the boiler. Open the valve a few degrees before the Silvia's power
> light goes out.
>
> I have a 150=B0C steam stat, 302F., so I open my steam vale at approx
> 295F. It wouldn't hurt to watch the indicated current climbing temp to
> actually see when *your* steam stat actually clicks off, & to see the
> resultant overshoot temps too.
> Cheers,
> Craig.



 
Date: 09 Nov 2006 12:27:58
From: fixedgear
Subject: Re: Which MLG kit do you guys have?
Thanks guys. I was planning on a new kit, I just didn't know if it was
that big of a deal to see your pre-set and current temp at the same
time.
I've finally decided to do this because I've been going to a cafe taht
has Intelligentsia's Black Cat espresso and the difference between
there and home is amazing. Not to mention they have a Synesso machine.
Anyway, thanks again for the help. I'm off to PID land.



  
Date: 09 Nov 2006 21:40:28
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Which MLG kit do you guys have?
On 9 Nov 2006 12:27:58 -0800, "fixedgear" <tom5000@hotmail.com > wrote:

>I just didn't know if it was
>that big of a deal to see your pre-set and current temp at the same
>time.

Not essential, but nice.

With a single display, regardless of what is displayed, you'll want
the other unless you never change the SV.


  
Date: 09 Nov 2006 16:00:05
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Which MLG kit do you guys have?

"fixedgear" <tom5000@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1163104078.846269.213540@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks guys. I was planning on a new kit, I just didn't know if it was
> that big of a deal to see your pre-set and current temp at the same
> time.
> I've finally decided to do this because I've been going to a cafe taht
> has Intelligentsia's Black Cat espresso and the difference between
> there and home is amazing. Not to mention they have a Synesso machine.
> Anyway, thanks again for the help. I'm off to PID land.
>

Yes, it is in MVHO. On the 2 line display you can watch the current temp
when you're going to steam. The steam stat is 140C, 284F., so you can
crack open the steam valve just before the stat clicks off, to maximize
steaming power by having the heating element on & continuing to add heat
to the boiler. Open the valve a few degrees before the Silvia's power
light goes out.

I have a 150C steam stat, 302F., so I open my steam vale at approx
295F. It wouldn't hurt to watch the indicated current climbing temp to
actually see when *your* steam stat actually clicks off, & to see the
resultant overshoot temps too.
Cheers,
Craig.



 
Date: 09 Nov 2006 11:38:10
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Which MLG kit do you guys have?
"fixedgear" <tom5000@hotmail.com > wrote:

>I'm finally going to do the whole pid and I was just curious if anyone
>had anything to say about a particular kit?
>
get which ever one you like. Remember that, generally, these things
are designed to be used for far more hours than it probably ever will
in Silvia so get the one that has the functions you want and the price
you like. IIRC, all the ones he has all work about the same as far as
controllability. You won't regret it. With quality coffee, the benefit
of temperature control can be seen with the first few shots.


Randy "pID'd and happy" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




 
Date: 08 Nov 2006 19:50:56
From: razmoo
Subject: Re: Which MLG kit do you guys have?
I bought a used 93. Its great, although looking at the others now some
look nicer.



  
Date: 09 Nov 2006 16:13:42
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Which MLG kit do you guys have?
On 8 Nov 2006 19:50:56 -0800, "razmoo" <anson.d@gmail.com > wrote:

>I bought a used 93. Its great, although looking at the others now some
>look nicer.

See the topic "Silvia's Erratic PID temp Display" before buying any
used PID.

IMO, it's just not worth the risk to get something near EOL.

Consider how much hassle it will be to replace the unit and what you
will save buying used vs new. It's a very small percentage of the
direct money and time invested cost. The few extra bux for new, from
any supplier, is money well spent.