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Date: 10 Nov 2006 14:58:28
From:
Subject: Which Super-Auto for Office?
Hello gang... I'm looking to get a super automatic machine for my
office (less mess and time...) and have been doing a bit of reading on
the different machines available. I have been drawn to the Saeco Royal
Professional and the DeLonghi Magnifica 3500, as well as the Gaggia
Titanium. It appears that the Gaggia has more issues than the other
two for some reason. Is that so? This will be only light use -- about
4 people. Are any of these three machines more desirable? Is there
another that is better? My budget is $1500 +/-. Thanks in advance.

-- Kelly





 
Date: 13 Nov 2006 08:44:43
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Which Super-Auto for Office?


> there is a new "Titanium Plus" that has a 5-year warranty. Dave, any
> info on this? The regular Titanium and Titaniun SS don't have the same
> warranty??
>
> -- Kelly

hmmmm --- sounds like the 'plus' is just a prepaid extended warranty.

you could buy THREE viennas for the price of one of these.
why not do that?

Dave
www.hitechespresso.com



 
Date: 13 Nov 2006 08:31:41
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Which Super-Auto for Office?

kwstandard@aol.com wrote:
> Ok... Dave, I appreciate your reply. Now I'm looking at warranty
> repair (right up your alley?!) and noticed that the DeLonghi has a
> "White Glove" 1-year warranty, where they will send someone out to
> fix/pick-up the machine if it goes down.

I'm sticking with delonghi = crap.

This sound very appealing...
> I don't see anything like that from Gaggia or Saeco. Honestly, I
> really like the Gaggia the best,

Saeco OWNS Gaggia -- and the major guts are the same.


followed by the Saeco and finally the
> DeLonghi -- but that warranty thing is bothering me. Any thoughts?
> Anyone?
>
> TIA -- Kelly



 
Date: 13 Nov 2006 08:20:59
From:
Subject: Re: Which Super-Auto for Office?
Just found another item on the official Gaggia site... Evidently,
there is a new "Titanium Plus" that has a 5-year warranty. Dave, any
info on this? The regular Titanium and Titaniun SS don't have the same
warranty??

-- Kelly



 
Date: 13 Nov 2006 06:52:48
From:
Subject: Re: Which Super-Auto for Office?
Ok... Dave, I appreciate your reply. Now I'm looking at warranty
repair (right up your alley?!) and noticed that the DeLonghi has a
"White Glove" 1-year warranty, where they will send someone out to
fix/pick-up the machine if it goes down. This sound very appealing...
I don't see anything like that from Gaggia or Saeco. Honestly, I
really like the Gaggia the best, followed by the Saeco and finally the
DeLonghi -- but that warranty thing is bothering me. Any thoughts?
Anyone?

TIA -- Kelly



 
Date: 10 Nov 2006 16:35:00
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Which Super-Auto for Office?
kwstandard@aol.com wrote:

>Hello gang... I'm looking to get a super automatic machine for my
>office (less mess and time...) and have been doing a bit of reading on
>the different machines available. I have been drawn to the Saeco Royal
>Professional and the DeLonghi Magnifica 3500, as well as the Gaggia
>Titanium. It appears that the Gaggia has more issues than the other
>two for some reason. Is that so? This will be only light use -- about
>4 people. Are any of these three machines more desirable? Is there
>another that is better? My budget is $1500 +/-. Thanks in advance.
>

The Jura-Capresso Z5 is available, refurb, for about $2200. Worth
looking into when already spending $1500. I was asking around for a
friend and got some good feedback on that one, which is the one he
decided to buy.

I have no personal experience with it, though.

Randy "new, it's more than I paid for my car!" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




  
Date: 10 Nov 2006 20:07:50
From: Tom
Subject: Re: Which Super-Auto for Office?
I agree with DaveB. For four people, you don't need a big, expensive
machine. I've had a Saeco Vienna Deluxe for 7 years now and will get
another one when this one is kaput. I had one major problem with the main
control board, but nothing else. For any semi-automatic machine, you better
designate someone to service it. That is, empty the grounds, fill the
water, about once a month take the brew group out and disassemble/clean
screens and lube it. They are convenient but they do require maintenance.

Tom

"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:j66al2hggbkin2h2flg5lvnlq3r7a86k6o@4ax.com...
> kwstandard@aol.com wrote:
>
>>Hello gang... I'm looking to get a super automatic machine for my
>>office (less mess and time...) and have been doing a bit of reading on
>>the different machines available. I have been drawn to the Saeco Royal
>>Professional and the DeLonghi Magnifica 3500, as well as the Gaggia
>>Titanium. It appears that the Gaggia has more issues than the other
>>two for some reason. Is that so? This will be only light use -- about
>>4 people. Are any of these three machines more desirable? Is there
>>another that is better? My budget is $1500 +/-. Thanks in advance.
>>
>
> The Jura-Capresso Z5 is available, refurb, for about $2200. Worth
> looking into when already spending $1500. I was asking around for a
> friend and got some good feedback on that one, which is the one he
> decided to buy.
>
> I have no personal experience with it, though.
>
> Randy "new, it's more than I paid for my car!" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>




 
Date: 10 Nov 2006 15:46:48
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Which Super-Auto for Office?
The Saeco Vienna Series does (almost all) the same things as the
royals for SEVERAL HUNDRED dollars less. = approx $500 to 600.

i.e. same brew group, same boilers, same pump, same grinder!

Save your money.
and IMHO, delonghi anything = trouble

Dave
Saeco/Gaggia service SE
www.hitechespresso.com


kwstandard@aol.com wrote:
> Hello gang... I'm looking to get a super automatic machine for my
> office (less mess and time...) and have been doing a bit of reading on
> the different machines available. I have been drawn to the Saeco Royal
> Professional and the DeLonghi Magnifica 3500, as well as the Gaggia
> Titanium. It appears that the Gaggia has more issues than the other
> two for some reason. Is that so? This will be only light use -- about
> 4 people. Are any of these three machines more desirable? Is there
> another that is better? My budget is $1500 +/-. Thanks in advance.
>
> -- Kelly