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Date: 03 Dec 2006 23:01:01
From: TRTRTR
Subject: ... $ 3,600. "Coffee maker" ( but Free shipping :O)

Jura-Capresso Impressa Z6

available from
www.williams-sonoma.com/srch/index.cfm?words=z6


ahhhh come on now...
I'd rather have my $ 30 French Press or $ 20 Clarity..

Can it really be worth $ 3,600. ?!?




 
Date: 05 Dec 2006 07:08:03
From: karlseidel
Subject: Re: ... $ 3,600. "Coffee maker" ( but Free shipping :O)
I've got the Z5 & the S9 and the difference is that the Z5 steams the
milk into your cup automatically and as part of the espresso draw
process. Both of the machines are self-cleaning - very unlike the
cleaning process when using a less-than-super-automatic machine. I
recently had to send in the S9 for service and I can't tell you how
painful it is to not be able to get up in the morning and push a button
and get a freshly ground & brewed cupajoe. I'm back to the french press
- heating up the water, grinding the beans, measuring, waiting,
waiting, waiting...

You don't know what you're missing 'til your well runs dry!

Karl

Chris Staley wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:01:01 GMT, TRTRTR <TRTRTR@yehaa.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jura-Capresso Impressa Z6
> >
> > available from
> >www.williams-sonoma.com/srch/index.cfm?words=z6
> >
> >
> >ahhhh come on now...
> >I'd rather have my $ 30 French Press or $ 20 Clarity..
> >
> >Can it really be worth $ 3,600. ?!?
>
>
> Eh... I don't think they are worth $3600, but there certainly would be
> a place for one in my day to day work environment, if cost were no
> object. If one plays around with the variables, and sets it for using
> the most coffee and the smallest shot volume, at the finest grind
> setting, they can actually make a pretty decently drinkable beverage.
> There is something to be said for pushbutton convenience at certain
> times.
>
> As for the price that Williams-Sonoma charges, they are always full
> retail MSRP for almost all of their items. You can likely get it for
> several hundred dollars less somewhere else. That being said, if I
> were ever in the ket for one of these super-autos, the ONLY place I
> would buy it from is Williams-Sonoma, for one very simple reason:
> They have an unlimited, unconditional gaurantee on every item they
> sell. If it breaks 5 years down the road, all you have to do is take
> it in, and they will either refund your money, or exchange it towards
> a new one. I personally observed someone bring in a 11 year old
> food processor to WS when I was there one day, and exchange it towards
> a new one, getting $289 credit for the old one. That kind of peace of
> mind, especially with a very complicated, very expensive and mostly
> plastic machine like a super-auto is worth spending a bit more on.
>
> But seriously, $3600 is just over the top. That approaches the price
> of both the new LM GS3, as well as the MUCH more capable Nuova
> Simonelli Microbar "home" superauto (ok, that's $5,999 so it's not
> that close). Likely, the $1799 F9 produces just as good of a shot, at
> half the price. And we all know that a grinder and an inexpensive
> traditional machine will be even better, but only the person buying it
> can put a price on the convenience factor.
>
> Chris



 
Date: 04 Dec 2006 04:54:32
From: Chris Staley
Subject: Re: ... $ 3,600. "Coffee maker" ( but Free shipping :O)
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:01:01 GMT, TRTRTR <TRTRTR@yehaa.com > wrote:

>
>Jura-Capresso Impressa Z6
>
> available from
>www.williams-sonoma.com/srch/index.cfm?words=z6
>
>
>ahhhh come on now...
>I'd rather have my $ 30 French Press or $ 20 Clarity..
>
>Can it really be worth $ 3,600. ?!?


Eh... I don't think they are worth $3600, but there certainly would be
a place for one in my day to day work environment, if cost were no
object. If one plays around with the variables, and sets it for using
the most coffee and the smallest shot volume, at the finest grind
setting, they can actually make a pretty decently drinkable beverage.
There is something to be said for pushbutton convenience at certain
times.

As for the price that Williams-Sonoma charges, they are always full
retail MSRP for almost all of their items. You can likely get it for
several hundred dollars less somewhere else. That being said, if I
were ever in the ket for one of these super-autos, the ONLY place I
would buy it from is Williams-Sonoma, for one very simple reason:
They have an unlimited, unconditional gaurantee on every item they
sell. If it breaks 5 years down the road, all you have to do is take
it in, and they will either refund your money, or exchange it towards
a new one. I personally observed someone bring in a 11 year old
food processor to WS when I was there one day, and exchange it towards
a new one, getting $289 credit for the old one. That kind of peace of
mind, especially with a very complicated, very expensive and mostly
plastic machine like a super-auto is worth spending a bit more on.

But seriously, $3600 is just over the top. That approaches the price
of both the new LM GS3, as well as the MUCH more capable Nuova
Simonelli Microbar "home" superauto (ok, that's $5,999 so it's not
that close). Likely, the $1799 F9 produces just as good of a shot, at
half the price. And we all know that a grinder and an inexpensive
traditional machine will be even better, but only the person buying it
can put a price on the convenience factor.

Chris


  
Date: 04 Dec 2006 14:15:00
From: TRTRTR
Subject: Re: ... $ 3,600. "Coffee maker" ( but Free shipping :O)

>were ever in the ket for one of these super-autos, the ONLY place I
>would buy it from is Williams-Sonoma, for one very simple reason:
>They have an unlimited, unconditional gaurantee on every item they
>sell. If it breaks 5 years down the road, all you have to do is take
>it in, and they will either refund your money, or exchange it towards
>a new one. I personally observed someone bring in a 11 year old
>food processor to WS when I was there one day, and exchange it towards
>a new one, getting $289 credit for the old one. That kind of peace of
>mind, especially with a very complicated, very expensive and mostly
>plastic machine like a super-auto is worth spending a bit more on.

... okay, THAT... I did not know, sweeeeet regards WS,
kinda like Craftsman.


 
Date: 03 Dec 2006 20:19:12
From: Hunter
Subject: Re: ... $ 3,600. "Coffee maker" ( but Free shipping :O)

TRTRTR wrote:
> Jura-Capresso Impressa Z6
>
> available from
> www.williams-sonoma.com/srch/index.cfm?words=z6
>
>
> ahhhh come on now...
> I'd rather have my $ 30 French Press or $ 20 Clarity..
>
> Can it really be worth $ 3,600. ?!?

I think that depends on your income bracket.....for me (a recent
college grad, underpaid at my first temp job, living in an area with
one of the highest costs of living in the nation, and a girlfriend
still in school), no. If I made enough to where this was a fraction of
my paycheck and I wanted a decent espresso shot, but didnt have much
time to put into it, then sure.



 
Date: 03 Dec 2006 16:05:51
From:
Subject: Re: ... $ 3,600. "Coffee maker" ( but Free shipping :O)
Hey.. You also get 3 8.8 oz. bags of coffee.. Whatta deal!
TRTRTR wrote:
> Jura-Capresso Impressa Z6
>
> available from
> www.williams-sonoma.com/srch/index.cfm?words=z6
>
>
> ahhhh come on now...
> I'd rather have my $ 30 French Press or $ 20 Clarity..
>
> Can it really be worth $ 3,600. ?!?



  
Date: 04 Dec 2006 01:01:39
From: TRTRTR
Subject: Re: ... $ 3,600. "Coffee maker" ( but Free shipping :O)



.... reminds me of that famous P.T. Barnum quote ... ;o)
Something about there being " one " born every minute.....


On 3 Dec 2006 16:05:51 -0800, chrislmc@gmail.com wrote:

>Hey.. You also get 3 8.8 oz. bags of coffee.. Whatta deal!
>TRTRTR wrote:
>> Jura-Capresso Impressa Z6
>>
>> available from
>> www.williams-sonoma.com/srch/index.cfm?words=z6
>>
>>
>> ahhhh come on now...
>> I'd rather have my $ 30 French Press or $ 20 Clarity..
>>
>> Can it really be worth $ 3,600. ?!?