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Date: 21 Sep 2006 06:51:54
From: pavola
Subject: cappuccino in London
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Hi,
in London there are many many shops of the same brand, that make many
many kinds of very good cappuccino in many sizes.
Does anyone know the name of these shops?
Thank you
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Date: 25 Sep 2006 18:54:53
From: DavidMLewis
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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Ken Wilson wrote:
> Ref monmouth - when faced with a less than helpful arrogance, i have been
> known to successfully resort to "is anita in today or is she down at ......"
> or " how far short of 2nd crack do you take these" ;-)
>
I never had a problem asking what had been roasted that day or the day
before. The people who were there when I went in always seemed happy to
talk about the coffee, and always seemed knowledgeable, if I didn't
interrupt a rush.
Best,
David
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Date: 25 Sep 2006 08:41:18
From: John S.
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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pavola wrote:
> Hi,
> in London there are many many shops of the same brand, that make many
> many kinds of very good cappuccino in many sizes.
> Does anyone know the name of these shops?
>
> Thank you
Pret A Manger are in several locations, the capuccino is good and comes
in more than one size and the sandwiches are tasty. Not sure if this
is the place you are looking for or not.
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Date: 25 Sep 2006 07:26:58
From: CrackAddict
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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AMT (train station carts) are good value - they have a Cafe Maya deal
that is a mocha concoction and a deal if you like that. Costa is pretty
reliable (local roasting near Waterloo) as is Cafe Nero. Monmouth nice
people. Borough ket location great on a Sat. Pret a Manger uses
Matthew Algie beans and can be good or horrible - depends on who is
pushing the superauto button?
Very location/barista specific - good luck!
pavola wrote:
> Hi,
> in London there are many many shops of the same brand, that make many
> many kinds of very good cappuccino in many sizes.
> Does anyone know the name of these shops?
>
> Thank you
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Date: 25 Sep 2006 19:01:55
From: elm
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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Monmouth are only nice if you treat them as sort of coffee gods who
supply the greatest coffee available. In reality you get very uneven
roast quality and occasionally stale beans. Today I was sniffly
informed "you don't have to buy if you don't want to" after telling the
the assistant the last batch of beans I bought were stale and lifeless,
almost no aroma after grinding. I find them typical of buying in central
london, overpriced (green beans cost more than roasted) and unwilling to
listen to customers. They exploit the british consumer trait of putting
up with shoddy service and not complaining when quality is bad.
I have been home roasting for nearly 20 years and buying all kinds of
beans, first trip to monmouth was about 20 years ago, yet they assumed I
was an idiot who was complaining for zero reason. I remember walking in
and spying a spong grinder on the table top. Was it for sale? No repled
the guy behind the bar, it belongs to the manager and is very rare and
valuable. I picked one up on ebay mint for £15 next day. My burr grinder
was not replaced.
elm
CrackAddict <smppix@gmail.com > wrote:
> AMT (train station carts) are good value - they have a Cafe Maya deal
> that is a mocha concoction and a deal if you like that. Costa is pretty
> reliable (local roasting near Waterloo) as is Cafe Nero. Monmouth nice
> people. Borough ket location great on a Sat. Pret a Manger uses
> Matthew Algie beans and can be good or horrible - depends on who is
> pushing the superauto button?
>
> Very location/barista specific - good luck!
>
> pavola wrote:
> > Hi,
> > in London there are many many shops of the same brand, that make many
> > many kinds of very good cappuccino in many sizes.
> > Does anyone know the name of these shops?
> >
> > Thank you
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Date: 25 Sep 2006 22:43:22
From: Ken Wilson
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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"elm"
I remember walking in
> and spying a spong grinder on the table top. Was it for sale? No repled
> the guy behind the bar, it belongs to the manager and is very rare and
> valuable. I picked one up on ebay mint for £15 next day.
Could have had mine for free - the thought of grinding enough for more than
one cup makes me want to sit down and have a rest.
http://www.kwilson.fsnet.co.uk/burrs.htm bottom of the page for those about
to google.
Forgive me - if you have been roasting for 20yrs, presumably that was before
these newfangled autoroasters and presumably even before the prima popcorn
thing? in which case - are you a stove top stirrer or a hot oven/holey pan
man?
Ref monmouth - when faced with a less than helpful arrogance, i have been
known to successfully resort to "is anita in today or is she down at ......"
or " how far short of 2nd crack do you take these" ;-)
ken
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 09:40:14
From: elm
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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yep. before auto roasters before internet first home roast
-nescafe-
-stale ground from "cranks" healthfood shop
- stale beans from healthfood shop
- roasted beans from tyns muswell hill
- green beans from tyns muswell hill
-oven
- fryingpan
- skillet
-popcorn
- (late 80's) self built drum made from a biscuit tin that melted when i
-rotated it over tmy parents gas ring
-"whats degassing?"
-various "hairdryers" moda etc
-then bit of a coffee wilderness during my student years, was at music
college in central london so was able to get a good cup from monmouth
-i roast -alpenrost
zach
-converted bbq (terrible job)
then finally gene caffe which is the best yet.
still only make a good cup %50 of the time
Ken Wilson <ken@kwilsonDEDUCT.fsnet.co.uk > wrote:
> "elm"
> I remember walking in
> > and spying a spong grinder on the table top. Was it for sale? No repled
> > the guy behind the bar, it belongs to the manager and is very rare and
> > valuable. I picked one up on ebay mint for £15 next day.
>
> Could have had mine for free - the thought of grinding enough for more than
> one cup makes me want to sit down and have a rest.
> http://www.kwilson.fsnet.co.uk/burrs.htm bottom of the page for those about
> to google.
>
> Forgive me - if you have been roasting for 20yrs, presumably that was before
> these newfangled autoroasters and presumably even before the prima popcorn
> thing? in which case - are you a stove top stirrer or a hot oven/holey pan
> man?
>
> Ref monmouth - when faced with a less than helpful arrogance, i have been
> known to successfully resort to "is anita in today or is she down at ......"
> or " how far short of 2nd crack do you take these" ;-)
>
> ken
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Date: 23 Sep 2006 10:59:27
From: pavola
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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Ken Wilson ha scritto:
> But you originally specified "very good cappuccino".
I' m Italian from Naples and therefore I know what is a Good cappuccino
anda a good espresso!!!!!!
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 08:23:56
From: Danny
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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pavola wrote:
> Ken Wilson ha scritto:
>
>
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>>But you originally specified "very good cappuccino".
>
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> I' m Italian from Naples and therefore I know what is a Good cappuccino
> anda a good espresso!!!!!!
>
If that's true, you wouldn't step anywhere near a Starbucks, and you
would understand Ken's post. In London try the smaller Kiosk chain,
who's name escapes me, but are found on railway station platforms etc.
--
Regards, Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 21:40:11
From: Dave Newt
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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Danny wrote:
> pavola wrote:
>> Ken Wilson ha scritto:
>>
>>
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>>> But you originally specified "very good cappuccino".
>>
>>
>> I' m Italian from Naples and therefore I know what is a Good cappuccino
>> anda a good espresso!!!!!!
>>
>
> If that's true, you wouldn't step anywhere near a Starbucks, and you
> would understand Ken's post. In London try the smaller Kiosk chain,
> who's name escapes me
AMT
http://www.amtcoffee.co.uk/
PS Hi all :-)
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 22:31:11
From: Danny
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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Dave Newt wrote:
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> AMT
>
> http://www.amtcoffee.co.uk/
>
> PS Hi all :-)
Thanks, Dave, that's the one. I did get a reasonable drink from them...
--
Regards, Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 23:31:42
From: Dave Newt
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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Danny wrote:
> Dave Newt wrote:
>>
>> AMT
>>
>> http://www.amtcoffee.co.uk/
>>
>> PS Hi all :-)
>
> Thanks, Dave, that's the one. I did get a reasonable drink from them...
Their prices are also pretty bargainish for what you get, in Central
London anyway.
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 04:45:09
From: pavola
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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http://starbucks.co.uk/en-GB/
I found it!!!!!
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Date: 23 Sep 2006 07:47:32
From: Ken Wilson
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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"pavola"
> http://starbucks.co.uk/en-GB/
>
>
> I found it!!!!!
>
But you originally specified "very good cappuccino".
I think if you did a poll on this group then I would guess you would get
probably less than 5% would concur that starbucks make "very good
cappuccino".
I mentioned espresso becuase espresso is the base of all cappuccino drinks -
and unless you can make good espresso then it doesn't matter how cleverly
you package, ket, add sprinkles, provide nice comfortable sofas, aim for
a lifestyle relaxation place away from the British pub scene, take over from
Wimpy as the place to get down to some serious chatting up - the coffee will
still be disappointing.
ken "naively puzzled expression - but I wasn't borne yesterday" W
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 04:25:22
From: pavola
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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DavidMLewis ha scritto:
> I'll second that recommendation. It quickly became the only place I'd
> actually order a coffee. <http://www.monmouthcoffee.com/> for
> locations, etc.
I didn't speak about coffee but cappuccino.
These shops make only cappuccino of many sizes with chocolate,
vanilla,...
Don' you know them??
Thanks
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Date: 21 Sep 2006 15:03:46
From: DavidMLewis
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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Ken Wilson wrote:
> "pavola"
> > in London there are many many shops of the same brand, that make many
> > many kinds of very good cappuccino in many sizes.
> > Does anyone know the name of these shops?
>
> Monmouth doesn't rate as a chain becuause there are only 2.5 of them.
>
I'll second that recommendation. It quickly became the only place I'd
actually order a coffee. <http://www.monmouthcoffee.com/ > for
locations, etc.
Best,
David
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Date: 21 Sep 2006 20:01:39
From: Ken Wilson
Subject: Re: cappuccino in London
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"pavola"
> in London there are many many shops of the same brand, that make many
> many kinds of very good cappuccino in many sizes.
> Does anyone know the name of these shops?
Imaginary?
There are lots of coffee chains in london. IMHO there are only two that i
would trust to make an espresso - which is, after all, the basis of a good
cap and sine qua non.
Monmouth doesn't rate as a chain becuause there are only 2.5 of them.
Failing that i would try my luck in a Nero's.
Ken
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