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Date: 06 Mar 2005 18:08:09
From: Bob Gray
Subject: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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My younger brother dropped the bike in the garage while moving
it...bent shift lever, and now bike does not shift up from 2nd gear.
I straightened the lever and checked the shift rod for straightness,
nothing is binding, but it just will not go into any gear higher
than 2nd...Any ideas?
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Date: 06 Mar 2005 20:40:57
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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"Bob Gray" <bobgray@arkham.org > wrote:
>My younger brother dropped the bike in the garage while moving
>it...bent shift lever, and now bike does not shift up from 2nd gear.
>I straightened the lever and checked the shift rod for straightness,
>nothing is binding, but it just will not go into any gear higher
>than 2nd...Any ideas?
>
I will assume that you have the revised shop manual that was reprinted
in '97. On page 32 of section K, it has an exploded view of the the
'92 907ie showing the Bascomb bearing on the input shaft's newcom
link. When given a lateral thrust (such as when dropped) of more that
28.65 Newton meters it causes the torsion spring to dislodge from the
sprague clutch where the secondary shaft connects to the bellcrank's
pivot pin. Opening the inspection/adjustment access panel on the
opposite side of the tranny will allow you to run a 10" long, .25"
diameter drift into the hollow of the shifting shaft. Lubricate the
drift and slide it in until it stops against the bearing alignment
pivot plate. Hold it there firmly, and one time only, smack it with
the biggist hammer you have . if that doesn't fix it, I'm stumped.
What's a 907IE?
Randy "that message was off topic, eh?" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 04:56:17
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 20:40:57 -0800, "Randy G."
<frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote:
>"Bob Gray" <bobgray@arkham.org> wrote:
>
>>My younger brother dropped the bike in the garage while moving
>>it...bent shift lever, and now bike does not shift up from 2nd gear.
>>I straightened the lever and checked the shift rod for straightness,
>>nothing is binding, but it just will not go into any gear higher
>>than 2nd...Any ideas?
>>
>
>I will assume that you have the revised shop manual that was reprinted
>in '97. On page 32 of section K, it has an exploded view of the the
>'92 907ie showing the Bascomb bearing on the input shaft's newcom
>link. When given a lateral thrust (such as when dropped) of more that
>28.65 Newton meters it causes the torsion spring to dislodge from the
>sprague clutch where the secondary shaft connects to the bellcrank's
>pivot pin. Opening the inspection/adjustment access panel on the
>opposite side of the tranny will allow you to run a 10" long, .25"
>diameter drift into the hollow of the shifting shaft. Lubricate the
>drift and slide it in until it stops against the bearing alignment
>pivot plate. Hold it there firmly, and one time only, smack it with
>the biggist hammer you have . if that doesn't fix it, I'm stumped.
>
>What's a 907IE?
>
>
> Randy "that message was off topic, eh?" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
You a polymath or somethin'?
Marshall
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Date: 06 Mar 2005 21:34:39
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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Marshall <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net > wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 20:40:57 -0800, "Randy G."
><frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote:
>
>>"Bob Gray" <bobgray@arkham.org> wrote:
>>
>>>My younger brother dropped the bike in the garage while moving
>>>it...bent shift lever, and now bike does not shift up from 2nd gear.
>>>I straightened the lever and checked the shift rod for straightness,
>>>nothing is binding, but it just will not go into any gear higher
>>>than 2nd...Any ideas?
>>>
>>
>>I will assume that you have the revised shop manual that was reprinted
>>in '97. On page 32 of section K, it has an exploded view of the the
>>'92 907ie showing the Bascomb bearing on the input shaft's newcom
>>link. When given a lateral thrust (such as when dropped) of more that
>>28.65 Newton meters it causes the torsion spring to dislodge from the
>>sprague clutch where the secondary shaft connects to the bellcrank's
>>pivot pin. Opening the inspection/adjustment access panel on the
>>opposite side of the tranny will allow you to run a 10" long, .25"
>>diameter drift into the hollow of the shifting shaft. Lubricate the
>>drift and slide it in until it stops against the bearing alignment
>>pivot plate. Hold it there firmly, and one time only, smack it with
>>the biggist hammer you have . if that doesn't fix it, I'm stumped.
>>
>>What's a 907IE?
>>
>>
>> Randy "that message was off topic, eh?" G.
>> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>You a polymath or somethin'?
>
No.. not at all.. Not even. That was all a joke! Everyone knows that
the transmission inspection/adjustment access panel on the 907ie
wasn't a feature until the late '94 models came out! ;-)
I do have an extensive website on the adjustment procedures on BMW
Airhead motorcycle forks that is highly respected, though. Much of it
is applicable to just about any similar telescopic fork system,
including bicycles (although I haven't tried it on a bicycle, myself)!
The 907ie is a Ducati, BTW, and about all I know about them is I would
love to won one.... Oh.. and they are very Italian!
Randy "need to go for a ride" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 07:51:39
From: Danny
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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Randy G. wrote:
> No.. not at all.. Not even. That was all a joke! Everyone knows that
> the transmission inspection/adjustment access panel on the 907ie
> wasn't a feature until the late '94 models came out! ;-)
>
> I do have an extensive website on the adjustment procedures on BMW
> Airhead motorcycle forks that is highly respected, though. Much of it
> is applicable to just about any similar telescopic fork system,
> including bicycles (although I haven't tried it on a bicycle, myself)!
>
> The 907ie is a Ducati, BTW, and about all I know about them is I would
> love to won one.... Oh.. and they are very Italian!
>
>
> Randy "need to go for a ride" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>
You shouldn't jest like that - I believed you, wot with you being good
with bits of bikes etc :)
--
Regards,
Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 10:20:56
From: Cumberpach
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote in message
news:392f1hF5tacb9U2@individual.net...
<snip >
>> The 907ie is a Ducati, BTW, and about all I know about them is I would
>> love to won one.... Oh.. and they are very Italian!
>> Randy "need to go for a ride" G.
>> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
> You shouldn't jest like that - I believed you, wot with you being >good
> with bits of bikes etc :)
>
You should know that according to the OE Dictionary : randy and bikes go
together like dunkin' donuts and nescafe`.
In my yoof, I bought a new 500 single Velocette. Broke it in by taking it
thru Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and Italy. Didn't see many Ducati's, but
saw a big FO Moto Guzzi in Florence - most impressed !!
Pete
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 11:12:52
From: Danny
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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Cumberpach wrote:
> "Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
> news:392f1hF5tacb9U2@individual.net...
> <snip>
>
>>>The 907ie is a Ducati, BTW, and about all I know about them is I would
>>>love to won one.... Oh.. and they are very Italian!
>>> Randy "need to go for a ride" G.
>>>http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>>
>>You shouldn't jest like that - I believed you, wot with you being >good
>>with bits of bikes etc :)
>>
>
> You should know that according to the OE Dictionary : randy and bikes go
> together like dunkin' donuts and nescafe`.
> In my yoof, I bought a new 500 single Velocette. Broke it in by taking it
> thru Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and Italy. Didn't see many Ducati's, but
> saw a big FO Moto Guzzi in Florence - most impressed !!
>
> Pete
>
>
I'm still biking, and have been since I was 16, on my little Puch Maxi
back then. Now it's my second Honda CBR1100XX (Blackbird) and still
going round Europe when time permits. It's nice to cross the channel
on the overnight ferry from down the road and be in Paris before 9am
the next morning. The French are much nicer to bikers. They
invariably let you pass and a lot of toll roads wave me through
without charge (most notably the toll bridge outside Le Havre).
--
Regards,
Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 13:56:58
From: Cumberpach
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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"Danny" wrote in message
> Cumberpach wrote:
> <snip>
Now it's my second Honda CBR1100XX (Blackbird) and still
> going round Europe when time permits. It's nice to cross the channel on
> the overnight ferry from down the road and be in Paris before 9am the next
> morning. The French are much nicer to bikers. They invariably let you
> pass and a lot of toll roads wave me through without charge (most notably
> the toll bridge outside Le Havre).
>
Coming home, I was nudged off the bike, on a roundabout, in the Paris
rush-hour. No one's fault, slight scratch on crashbar, motorist most
apologetic, but other car drivers and pedestrians really gave the motorist a
mouthful.
Sold the Velo 2 years later to a Californian, who shipped it off home and I
haven't biked since. My 40-something younger brother has a 1200 Harley (it's
a funny age) it's not an ElectraGlide, but it reminds me of a Tiger Moth
engine on tickover. He's mad keen and a member of the HD Club and he and His
wife have been to Vienna and Barcelona with them. Biking is definately a
Summer persuit - <brrrrr >
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 13:07:20
From: bdigman
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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Danny wrote:
> Cumberpach wrote:
>
>> "Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
>> news:392f1hF5tacb9U2@individual.net...
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> The 907ie is a Ducati, BTW, and about all I know about them is I would
>>>> love to won one.... Oh.. and they are very Italian!
>>>> Randy "need to go for a ride" G.
>>>> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>>>
>>>
>>> You shouldn't jest like that - I believed you, wot with you being
>>> >good with bits of bikes etc :)
>>>
>>
>> You should know that according to the OE Dictionary : randy and bikes
>> go together like dunkin' donuts and nescafe`.
>> In my yoof, I bought a new 500 single Velocette. Broke it in by taking
>> it thru Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and Italy. Didn't see many
>> Ducati's, but saw a big FO Moto Guzzi in Florence - most impressed !!
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>
> I'm still biking, and have been since I was 16, on my little Puch Maxi
> back then. Now it's my second Honda CBR1100XX (Blackbird) and still
> going round Europe when time permits. It's nice to cross the channel on
> the overnight ferry from down the road and be in Paris before 9am the
> next morning. The French are much nicer to bikers. They invariably let
> you pass and a lot of toll roads wave me through without charge (most
> notably the toll bridge outside Le Havre).
>
Danny, we may have met before. I was camped south of Barcelona in '74
with my wife and son. We had ridden down from around Stuttgart on my
'54BMW with our son in the Steib TR500. Around evening a couple of
British guys came riding a very beat Triumph. Trident? Can't recall the
model. I do remember the springs/shocks were gone and the trailing axle
was welded solid to the frame. Ouch. They had bet one's brother the bike
could be ridden to the Rock of Gibralter and back and they were were on
the return leg. You would do that sort of thing, no?
Bernie (still riding that bike and sidecar 30 years later)
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 20:53:02
From: Danny
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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bdigman wrote:
> Danny, we may have met before. I was camped south of Barcelona in '74
> with my wife and son. We had ridden down from around Stuttgart on my
> '54BMW with our son in the Steib TR500. Around evening a couple of
> British guys came riding a very beat Triumph. Trident? Can't recall the
> model. I do remember the springs/shocks were gone and the trailing axle
> was welded solid to the frame. Ouch. They had bet one's brother the bike
> could be ridden to the Rock of Gibralter and back and they were were on
> the return leg. You would do that sort of thing, no?
> Bernie (still riding that bike and sidecar 30 years later)
>
Wish we had, Bernie, but alas, my riding didn't start until I was 16
in 1976. I never ventured abroad until recently - 12 years ago.
I did have some old bikes in the late '70's - a BSA C15, and starfire
and a Norton Commando briefly, but I was bought up on Jap bikes mainly
- Honda 400/4 and then 750/4 F2 and K6? After a long absence I
started riding again 15 years ago and then to Europe.
--
Regards,
Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
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Date: 16 Mar 2005 07:31:36
From: Chris Staley
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 13:07:20 -0700, bdigman <bdigman@zianet.com >
wrote:
> Danny, we may have met before. I was camped south of Barcelona in '74
>with my wife and son. We had ridden down from around Stuttgart on my
>'54BMW with our son in the Steib TR500. Around evening a couple of
>British guys came riding a very beat Triumph. Trident? Can't recall the
>model. I do remember the springs/shocks were gone and the trailing axle
>was welded solid to the frame. Ouch. They had bet one's brother the bike
>could be ridden to the Rock of Gibralter and back and they were were on
>the return leg. You would do that sort of thing, no?
>Bernie (still riding that bike and sidecar 30 years later)
And it sure is a beautiful bike and sidecar! I've got one very nice
picture of it, with the two group lever that is in somewhat sad shape
in the background.
Chris (who wishes he lived a whole lot closer to Las Cruces)
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Date: 08 Mar 2005 17:50:13
From: Derek
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:hlpn21t4hbce4rbhh9qfe7uduu5kpm1tqc@4ax.com...
> The 907ie is a Ducati, BTW, and about all I know about them is I would
> love to won one.... Oh.. and they are very Italian!
>
>
> Randy "need to go for a ride" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
Me too, there's something about Italian bikes. I've always lusted after a
Guzzi Le Mans. Oh, that big V twin, magic. But if someone wanted to give
me a Ducati I'd settle for it. I'm not proud. I'd even have considered a
Laverda Jota once. But, no one has ever offered me one. Maybe for my
birthday? (yet another decade rolling by soon, and a nasty one at that)...
Derek "doesn't have a bike now" Hobbis (does my Merckx road bike count
though?)
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Date: 08 Mar 2005 06:41:38
From: Donn Cave
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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Quoth "Derek" <derek_hobbis@msn.com >:
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 22:06:07
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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"Derek" <derek_hobbis@msn.com > wrote:
>"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote in message
>news:hlpn21t4hbce4rbhh9qfe7uduu5kpm1tqc@4ax.com...
>> The 907ie is a Ducati, BTW, and about all I know about them is I would
>> love to won one.... Oh.. and they are very Italian!
>>
>>
>> Randy "need to go for a ride" G.
>> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>>
>
>Me too, there's something about Italian bikes. I've always lusted after a
>Guzzi Le Mans. Oh, that big V twin, magic. But if someone wanted to give
>me a Ducati I'd settle for it. I'm not proud. I'd even have considered a
>Laverda Jota once. But, no one has ever offered me one. Maybe for my
>birthday? (yet another decade rolling by soon, and a nasty one at that)...
>
We got off the ferry at Le Harve in France a few days before the Bol
d' Or. We went through town at about 7:00 AM amidst a group of about
15 or 20 Laverdas. A more glorious sound has not been heard. Had a
friend in the states that had one. I did a head gasket for him. A pain
to work on (you either had to remove the engine from the bike or pull
all the cylinder head studs), but what a well built bike!
I was sitting at a traffic light at the corner of Ventura Blvd. and
Victory in the SF valley on the way home from the Rock Store on
Mullholland. I hear an unmistakable sound and look over to see a REAl
Mike Hailwood Replica pull up next to me.... <drool >
FInally, heading south on 101 towards SF, just north of the Bridge,
and going the other way I see a Laverda SFC. Look it up!
From Randy G.
'79 BMW R100RT - The only bike I have ever owned
Bought in 1981
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 15:43:56
From: Fr Jack
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote:
>
>What's a 907IE?
Ducati
--
Cheers!
Fr Jack
96 Tiger.
FRJACKUKRM AT GMAIL DOT COM
skype: fr.jack (without the dot)
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 03:58:07
From: David ~
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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The cable is either slipping, or the fall pulled the cable out of synch with
the derailer. My guess is that the cable is slipping
"Bob Gray" <bobgray@arkham.org > wrote in message
news:DdSdnYuTONgUKrbfRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> My younger brother dropped the bike in the garage while moving
> it...bent shift lever, and now bike does not shift up from 2nd gear.
> I straightened the lever and checked the shift rod for straightness,
> nothing is binding, but it just will not go into any gear higher
> than 2nd...Any ideas?
>
>
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 03:00:06
From: DoublEE
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 18:08:09 -0800, "Bob Gray" <bobgray@arkham.org >
wrote:
>My younger brother dropped the bike in the garage while moving
>it...bent shift lever, and now bike does not shift up from 2nd gear.
>I straightened the lever and checked the shift rod for straightness,
>nothing is binding, but it just will not go into any gear higher
>than 2nd...Any ideas?
I hear Ethiopian Yirgacheffe is very nice.
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Date: 07 Mar 2005 02:33:41
From: Jim the Noob
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 18:08:09 -0800, "Bob Gray" <bobgray@arkham.org >
inquired:
>My younger brother dropped the bike in the garage while moving
>it...bent shift lever, and now bike does not shift up from 2nd gear.
>I straightened the lever and checked the shift rod for straightness,
>nothing is binding, but it just will not go into any gear higher
>than 2nd...Any ideas?
Hmm... Maybe the steam wand is out of alignment??
Jim (sorry)
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Date: 06 Mar 2005 18:38:30
From: Bob Gray
Subject: Re: 1992 907IE: can't upshift from 2nd
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I appologise...wrong group.
"Jim the Noob" <jimmyWHIRLYlo4@mchsi.com > wrote in message
news:32fn21hj5uqtktceda6muejivt2r33hs3b@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 18:08:09 -0800, "Bob Gray" <bobgray@arkham.org>
> inquired:
>
>>My younger brother dropped the bike in the garage while moving
>>it...bent shift lever, and now bike does not shift up from 2nd gear.
>>I straightened the lever and checked the shift rod for straightness,
>>nothing is binding, but it just will not go into any gear higher
>>than 2nd...Any ideas?
>
> Hmm... Maybe the steam wand is out of alignment??
>
> Jim (sorry)
>
>
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