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Date: 05 Aug 2006 07:38:24
From: LeverMan
Subject: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


Hey Everyone,

Just watched the new Will Ferrell vehicle last night. First off the
movie isn't really too good although it hints at potential greatness
untapped. The real reason why I am here today is because I was accused
of being slightly femme by my wife after she noticed that the gay
Formula One driver in the movie, played by Ali G, dug a lot of the same
things. He and I dig bebop. I love F1 and go to the US Grand Prix
religiously. He and I lovel dogs having two maltese myself. I am a big
Francophile. And here is the kicker he and I love espresso.

In the movie there is a scene when the French driver, Jean, is kicking
everyone's butt and leading the race. They cut to him in the car and he
is drinking out of a demitasse. At this point my wife whispers loudly,
"That's so you!" Anyway, Ferrell finally catches up to Frenchy and
bumps his Perrier sponsered ride. Ali G spills a drop of coffee on his
uniform and mumbles in a bad French accent about Macchiato this,
Macchiato that. Of course I had to explain to my wife that I only drink
espresso not macchiatos and only occasionally cappuccinos. She didn't
care, it is all coffee out of small cups to her.

Now I admit to being a little isolated here in Phoenix. I roast and
grind my own beans and make espresso that rocks the way God intended,
with a lever. After seeing the movie I feel compelled to try out a
macchiato. I want to make one now, the morning after but alas I have no
milk. But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
drink?

I mean if I go to a respectable cafe and order one, will I be snickered
at by the cognoscenti? To me a Mint Julep is a gay drink, 90% of the
drinks at Starbucks are gay drinks, but a macchiato seems so masculine.
Being similar to the word machismo, the mere enunciation of the word
creates a spike in bodily testosterone (maybe another defense that
Floyd can use). How is it gay? A Cappuccino has more milk and is less
bold, yet the writers chose to have that Frenchman drink and spill a
macchiato.

I can't for the life of me understand it. Now I must bid you adieu as I
need to visit alt.music.bluenote.jazz and rec.autos.sport.f1 with
similar questions.

Ciao,
LeverMan

-Pull one for me.





 
Date: 05 Aug 2006 15:41:06
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


On 5 Aug 2006 07:38:24 -0700, "LeverMan" <daniel_marsalone@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>I mean if I go to a respectable cafe and order one, will I be snickered
>at by the cognoscenti?

you're welcome to stop by the campground at the next USGP and have
some coffee. i might splurge this year and get a generator so i can
take a marzocco with me to the next race.



 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 05:00:01
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


On 5 Aug 2006 07:38:24 -0700, "LeverMan" <daniel_marsalone@yahoo.com >
wrote:


Yes. They were Oscar Wilde's favorite drink. Young men in West
Hollywood celebrate their 21st birthay by having a macchiato at Urth
Caffe. I thought everyone knew this.

Marshall


 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 01:07:00
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


I'd be more worried about someone seeing me come out of a Will Ferrel
movie

On 5 Aug 2006 07:38:24 -0700, "LeverMan" <daniel_marsalone@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>Hey Everyone,
>
>Just watched the new Will Ferrell vehicle last night. First off the
>movie isn't really too good although it hints at potential greatness
>untapped. The real reason why I am here today is because I was accused
>of being slightly femme by my wife after she noticed that the gay
>Formula One driver in the movie, played by Ali G, dug a lot of the same
>things. He and I dig bebop. I love F1 and go to the US Grand Prix
>religiously. He and I lovel dogs having two maltese myself. I am a big
>Francophile. And here is the kicker he and I love espresso.
>
>In the movie there is a scene when the French driver, Jean, is kicking
>everyone's butt and leading the race. They cut to him in the car and he
>is drinking out of a demitasse. At this point my wife whispers loudly,
>"That's so you!" Anyway, Ferrell finally catches up to Frenchy and
>bumps his Perrier sponsered ride. Ali G spills a drop of coffee on his
>uniform and mumbles in a bad French accent about Macchiato this,
>Macchiato that. Of course I had to explain to my wife that I only drink
>espresso not macchiatos and only occasionally cappuccinos. She didn't
>care, it is all coffee out of small cups to her.
>
>Now I admit to being a little isolated here in Phoenix. I roast and
>grind my own beans and make espresso that rocks the way God intended,
>with a lever. After seeing the movie I feel compelled to try out a
>macchiato. I want to make one now, the morning after but alas I have no
>milk. But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
>drink?
>
>I mean if I go to a respectable cafe and order one, will I be snickered
>at by the cognoscenti? To me a Mint Julep is a gay drink, 90% of the
>drinks at Starbucks are gay drinks, but a macchiato seems so masculine.
>Being similar to the word machismo, the mere enunciation of the word
>creates a spike in bodily testosterone (maybe another defense that
>Floyd can use). How is it gay? A Cappuccino has more milk and is less
>bold, yet the writers chose to have that Frenchman drink and spill a
>macchiato.
>
>I can't for the life of me understand it. Now I must bid you adieu as I
>need to visit alt.music.bluenote.jazz and rec.autos.sport.f1 with
>similar questions.
>
>Ciao,
>LeverMan
>
>-Pull one for me.


  
Date: 06 Aug 2006 03:07:06
From: hudson
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?




>>But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
>>drink?
>>


Of course here in the UK we like to confuse things. Gay now means rubbish
or crap. If you hear someone under the age of thirty say something like "
He is so gay" in general they are not referring to the persons sexuality.
This also applies to inanimate things as well. If a youngster calls a
ringtone gay they are not talking about a rendition of YMCA but the fact
that it is crap. As a fast approaching 50 male who would describe himself
as gay I am not sure whether to be mildly offended at the way the word has
been pinched, or shrug my shoulders and reflect on the fact that we pinched
it anyway!

Stuart Hudson




   
Date: 06 Aug 2006 02:16:33
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 03:07:06 +0100, "hudson"
<Mhh21c_removethis_@hotmail.com > wrote:

<snip >
>
> >>But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
>>>drink?
>>>

As a Life Member of the NRA, married over 30 years and known to enjoy
a macchiato, I don't f...ing think so!

And since none of my gay friends has ever asked for one, I'm f...ing
sure not!


    
Date: 06 Aug 2006 03:20:52
From: hudson
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?



"I- >Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:32kad29j0bs3ienbgkq0618t1omjhq2bqb@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 03:07:06 +0100, "hudson"
> <Mhh21c_removethis_@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>
>> >>But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
>>>>drink?
>>>>
>
> As a Life Member of the NRA, married over 30 years and known to enjoy
> a macchiato, I don't f...ing think so!
>
> And since none of my gay friends has ever asked for one, I'm f...ing
> sure not!

Of course my point was that the OP could be asking if they are a crap drink.

Stuart Hudson




  
Date: 05 Aug 2006 21:00:34
From: notbob
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


On 2006-08-06, I- >Ian <someone@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I'd be more worried about someone seeing me come out of a Will Ferrel
> movie

I'd be more worried about *going in* to a Will Ferrell movie.

nb


   
Date: 05 Aug 2006 23:07:51
From: Trollmaster
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


nice troll!




 
Date: 05 Aug 2006 16:37:48
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


yes.



  
Date: 06 Aug 2006 01:07:34
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


On 5 Aug 2006 16:37:48 -0700, "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote:

>yes.

no


 
Date: 05 Aug 2006 22:20:46
From: Colin B.
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


LeverMan <daniel_marsalone@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Hey Everyone,

(snip)

> But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
> drink?

Honestly, are you that unsure about your own sexuality that you have to
ask for advice?



  
Date: 05 Aug 2006 23:30:54
From: Alan
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?



"Colin B." wrote
> LeverMan wrote:
>> Hey Everyone,
>
> (snip)
>
>> But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
>> drink?
>
> Honestly, are you that unsure about your own sexuality that you have to
> ask for advice?

I think he was just bored and running out of things to do when he
osted ---- and I bet he's amused that folks are taking him seriously




 
Date: 05 Aug 2006 13:03:27
From: ensenadajim
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


On 5 Aug 2006 07:38:24 -0700, "LeverMan" <daniel_marsalone@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
>drink?

Only if your bigotted.


>I mean if I go to a respectable cafe and order one, will I be snickered
>at by the cognoscenti? To me a Mint Julep is a gay drink, 90% of the
>drinks at Starbucks are gay drinks, but a macchiato seems so masculine.
>Being similar to the word machismo, the mere enunciation of the word
>creates a spike in bodily testosterone (maybe another defense that
>Floyd can use). How is it gay? A Cappuccino has more milk and is less
>bold, yet the writers chose to have that Frenchman drink and spill a
>macchiato.

Latent bigotry? Nah, you are half-way into the bigot closet.


>-Pull one for me.

You are already pulling your own, pud, that is.


jim



 
Date: 05 Aug 2006 12:58:31
From: TimEggers
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


>But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
>drink?

In my opinion assigning or attempting to decipher if a drink has any
connotation to a specific sexual orientation is a little silly isn't
it? In my opinion it's just a movie and a macchiato is just a
macchiato.

Watch what you want and drink what you want without thoughts of
anything else...



 
Date: 05 Aug 2006 11:34:53
From:
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?



LeverMan wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
>
> Just watched the new Will Ferrell vehicle last night. First off the
> movie isn't really too good although it hints at potential greatness
> untapped. The real reason why I am here today is because I was accused
> of being slightly femme by my wife after she noticed that the gay
> Formula One driver in the movie, played by Ali G, dug a lot of the same
> things. He and I dig bebop. I love F1 and go to the US Grand Prix
> religiously. He and I lovel dogs having two maltese myself. I am a big
> Francophile. And here is the kicker he and I love espresso.
> ...snip...>
> Ciao,
> LeverMan
>
> -Pull one for me.

Only if you drink one with your pinky finger extended ...

Marty



 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 06:32:57
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


since when does being a gun lover and married necessarily exclude being
gay?

:)

d ( Beretta A505 12 ga. owner and married!)

96

I- >Ian wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 03:07:06 +0100, "hudson"
> <Mhh21c_removethis_@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
> >
> > >>But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
> >>>drink?
> >>>
>
> As a Life Member of the NRA, married over 30 years and known to enjoy
> a macchiato, I don't f...ing think so!
>
> And since none of my gay friends has ever asked for one, I'm f...ing
> sure not!



  
Date: 06 Aug 2006 14:39:23
From: J. Clarke
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


daveb wrote:

> since when does being a gun lover and married necessarily exclude being
> gay?
>
> :)
>
> d ( Beretta A505 12 ga. owner and married!)

But are you gay?

> I->Ian wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 03:07:06 +0100, "hudson"
>> <Mhh21c_removethis_@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> >
>> > >>But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
>> >>>drink?
>> >>>
>>
>> As a Life Member of the NRA, married over 30 years and known to enjoy
>> a macchiato, I don't f...ing think so!
>>
>> And since none of my gay friends has ever asked for one, I'm f...ing
>> sure not!

--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)


   
Date: 06 Aug 2006 13:42:23
From: ensenadajim
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 14:39:23 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<jclarke.usenet@snet.net.invalid > wrote:

>daveb wrote:
>
>> since when does being a gun lover and married necessarily exclude being
>> gay?
>>
>> :)
>>
>> d ( Beretta A505 12 ga. owner and married!)
>
>But are you gay?
>

Why do you care? Or are you trying to get a date with him if he is?


jim



 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 06:30:36
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


HEY! he is a PERSONAL FRIEND of mine!
so cool it!


d
96


I- >Ian wrote:
> I'd be more worried about someone seeing me come out of a Will Ferrel
> movie
>
> On 5 Aug 2006 07:38:24 -0700, "LeverMan" <daniel_marsalone@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hey Everyone,
> >
> >Just watched the new Will Ferrell vehicle last night. First off the
> >movie isn't really too good although it hints at potential greatness
> >untapped. The real reason why I am here today is because I was accused
> >of being slightly femme by my wife after she noticed that the gay
> >Formula One driver in the movie, played by Ali G, dug a lot of the same
> >things. He and I dig bebop. I love F1 and go to the US Grand Prix
> >religiously. He and I lovel dogs having two maltese myself. I am a big
> >Francophile. And here is the kicker he and I love espresso.
> >
> >In the movie there is a scene when the French driver, Jean, is kicking
> >everyone's butt and leading the race. They cut to him in the car and he
> >is drinking out of a demitasse. At this point my wife whispers loudly,
> >"That's so you!" Anyway, Ferrell finally catches up to Frenchy and
> >bumps his Perrier sponsered ride. Ali G spills a drop of coffee on his
> >uniform and mumbles in a bad French accent about Macchiato this,
> >Macchiato that. Of course I had to explain to my wife that I only drink
> >espresso not macchiatos and only occasionally cappuccinos. She didn't
> >care, it is all coffee out of small cups to her.
> >
> >Now I admit to being a little isolated here in Phoenix. I roast and
> >grind my own beans and make espresso that rocks the way God intended,
> >with a lever. After seeing the movie I feel compelled to try out a
> >macchiato. I want to make one now, the morning after but alas I have no
> >milk. But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
> >drink?
> >
> >I mean if I go to a respectable cafe and order one, will I be snickered
> >at by the cognoscenti? To me a Mint Julep is a gay drink, 90% of the
> >drinks at Starbucks are gay drinks, but a macchiato seems so masculine.
> >Being similar to the word machismo, the mere enunciation of the word
> >creates a spike in bodily testosterone (maybe another defense that
> >Floyd can use). How is it gay? A Cappuccino has more milk and is less
> >bold, yet the writers chose to have that Frenchman drink and spill a
> >macchiato.
> >
> >I can't for the life of me understand it. Now I must bid you adieu as I
> >need to visit alt.music.bluenote.jazz and rec.autos.sport.f1 with
> >similar questions.
> >
> >Ciao,
> >LeverMan
> >
> >-Pull one for me.



 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 02:17:25
From: HomeRoast@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


I think it's your insecurity that brings you out of the closet. How'd
you hide it all these years? Next time you play Y.M.C.A. take a hard
look at the musicians. Anybody in PinK? I don't think so (don't own
that one, can I borrow yours?)

The hardhats will kick your tail. Oh, and if you show up at their
establishment, they might kick it again...

Straight talk,
Brett

LeverMan wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
>
> Just watched the new Will Ferrell vehicle last night. First off the
> movie isn't really too good although it hints at potential greatness
> untapped. The real reason why I am here today is because I was accused
> of being slightly femme by my wife after she noticed that the gay
> Formula One driver in the movie, played by Ali G, dug a lot of the same
> things. He and I dig bebop. I love F1 and go to the US Grand Prix
> religiously. He and I lovel dogs having two maltese myself. I am a big
> Francophile. And here is the kicker he and I love espresso.
>
> In the movie there is a scene when the French driver, Jean, is kicking
> everyone's butt and leading the race. They cut to him in the car and he
> is drinking out of a demitasse. At this point my wife whispers loudly,
> "That's so you!" Anyway, Ferrell finally catches up to Frenchy and
> bumps his Perrier sponsered ride. Ali G spills a drop of coffee on his
> uniform and mumbles in a bad French accent about Macchiato this,
> Macchiato that. Of course I had to explain to my wife that I only drink
> espresso not macchiatos and only occasionally cappuccinos. She didn't
> care, it is all coffee out of small cups to her.
>
> Now I admit to being a little isolated here in Phoenix. I roast and
> grind my own beans and make espresso that rocks the way God intended,
> with a lever. After seeing the movie I feel compelled to try out a
> macchiato. I want to make one now, the morning after but alas I have no
> milk. But back to the topic, are macchiatos considered to be a gay
> drink?
>
> I mean if I go to a respectable cafe and order one, will I be snickered
> at by the cognoscenti? To me a Mint Julep is a gay drink, 90% of the
> drinks at Starbucks are gay drinks, but a macchiato seems so masculine.
> Being similar to the word machismo, the mere enunciation of the word
> creates a spike in bodily testosterone (maybe another defense that
> Floyd can use). How is it gay? A Cappuccino has more milk and is less
> bold, yet the writers chose to have that Frenchman drink and spill a
> macchiato.
>
> I can't for the life of me understand it. Now I must bid you adieu as I
> need to visit alt.music.bluenote.jazz and rec.autos.sport.f1 with
> similar questions.
>
> Ciao,
> LeverMan
>
> -Pull one for me.



 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 01:42:34
From: Ben Dover
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


The acid test is which form of your name you use.

For example, if you are known as Robert, Alan, Bernard, David, Anthony etc,
you're prolly gay.
If you are just known as Bob, Al, Butch, Dave or Tony, you're straight.

Also, if you know the names of more than a dozen colors, you're prolly gay.



"LeverMan" <daniel_marsalone@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1154788704.518688.193310@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Hey Everyone,
>
> Just watched the new Will Ferrell vehicle last night. First off the
> movie isn't really too good although it hints at potential greatness
> untapped. The real reason why I am here today is because I was accused
> of being slightly femme by my wife after she noticed that the gay
> Formula One driver in the movie, played by Ali G, dug a lot of the same
> things. He and I dig bebop. I love F1 and go to the US Grand Prix
> religiously. He and I lovel dogs having two maltese myself. I am a big
> Francophile. And here is the kicker he and I love espresso.
>




 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 16:39:15
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


"birthay "

Marshall! is "birthay " gay for birthday? and I am concerned as to
why you are hanging around west Melrose!

heh.

d

Marshall wrote:
> On 5 Aug 2006 07:38:24 -0700, "LeverMan" <daniel_marsalone@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Yes. They were Oscar Wilde's favorite drink. Young men in West
> Hollywood celebrate their 21st birthay by having a macchiato at Urth
> Caffe. I thought everyone knew this.
>
> Marshall



 
Date: 07 Aug 2006 08:33:01
From: stephendnes@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?



hudson wrote:

>reflect on the fact that we pinched
> it anyway!
>

If the group will excuse getting a bit OT...

This reminds me of a wonderful clip from Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie
about the changing use of the word gay over recent decades. Although
not gay myself, it had me in stitches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaYJ-Fevoic

Stephen



 
Date: 07 Aug 2006 06:32:27
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?


or if you know about women's SHOES . . . .


dave
97


Ben Dover wrote:
> The acid test is which form of your name you use.
>
> For example, if you are known as Robert, Alan, Bernard, David, Anthony etc,
> you're prolly gay.
> If you are just known as Bob, Al, Butch, Dave or Tony, you're straight.
>
> Also, if you know the names of more than a dozen colors, you're prolly gay.
>
>
>
> "LeverMan" <daniel_marsalone@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1154788704.518688.193310@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > Hey Everyone,
> >
> > Just watched the new Will Ferrell vehicle last night. First off the
> > movie isn't really too good although it hints at potential greatness
> > untapped. The real reason why I am here today is because I was accused
> > of being slightly femme by my wife after she noticed that the gay
> > Formula One driver in the movie, played by Ali G, dug a lot of the same
> > things. He and I dig bebop. I love F1 and go to the US Grand Prix
> > religiously. He and I lovel dogs having two maltese myself. I am a big
> > Francophile. And here is the kicker he and I love espresso.
> >



 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 21:15:47
From: Jasonian
Subject: Re: Are Macchiatos inherently gay?



This whole thread is just ridiculous.

I just saw this movie last night at the drive-in, and we both thought
it was a lot of fun.

It's not to be taken seriously, obviously. It's also for a younger
crowd (I'm 23, she's 24).

And I'll admit, I do enjoy macchiatos.. quite a bit. In fact, I often
try to push them over on other people while on the bar at work.

When the mentioned scene took place, I laughed pretty hard, and felt no
threat to my masculinity.

Just take it as what it was intended to be.. a joke in the form of
jabbing at the French.. in more ways than one.

regards,
Jason H.
http://coffeeaspirations.blogspot.com