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Date: 25 Aug 2006 08:59:47
From: Randy G.
Subject: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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Bodum Pavina 2 oz. Double-Wall Espresso Cups
http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-Pavina-Double-Wall/dp/B000A5CLG6
2 for $11.95. Not the lowest price as such, but spend $25 for free
shipping.
Try http://beta.slickdeals.net/slickfillers/ for some fillers if you
don't want to get 3 sets for the free shipping, or there are other
sizes of the Pavinas available:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/collections/B000B56KQ2
Randy "I don't work for Amazon, etc." G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 16:22:24
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 08:59:47 -0700, Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com >
wrote:
>Bodum Pavina 2 oz. Double-Wall Espresso Cups
>http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-Pavina-Double-Wall/dp/B000A5CLG6
>2 for $11.95. Not the lowest price as such, but spend $25 for free
>shipping.
>Try http://beta.slickdeals.net/slickfillers/ for some fillers if you
>don't want to get 3 sets for the free shipping, or there are other
>sizes of the Pavinas available:
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/collections/B000B56KQ2
>
> Randy "I don't work for Amazon, etc." G.
>http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
Thanks, Randy. Bought 3 boxes for holiday gifts.
Marshall
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 12:59:17
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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YOU ARE gonna upset rg, the 'supershopper'!
$12 for 2 includes shipping. cool.
dave
Robert Harmon wrote:
> Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote in
> news:057ue29ohh7el9kfeodekbm859m0ui2gth@4ax.com:
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> > Bodum Pavina
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 18:02:43
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in
news:057ue29ohh7el9kfeodekbm859m0ui2gth@4ax.com:
> Bodum Pavina
I would only list items that are unique; special purchases, close outs &
other lower than normal prices. The Bodum line is available at the price
you mention pretty much everywhere, often with free shipping. Here's a link
to WLL: http://www.wholelattelove.com/Bodum/pavina_cups.cfm
Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 18:19:54
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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I actually agree with you on this one, Robert. Heck, that's their standard
price I saw at Peet's last week.
C
"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote in message
news:Xns982A845D578A5rhharmonZhotmailcom@207.217.125.201...
> Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote in
> news:057ue29ohh7el9kfeodekbm859m0ui2gth@4ax.com:
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>> Bodum Pavina
>
> I would only list items that are unique; special purchases, close outs &
> other lower than normal prices. The Bodum line is available at the price
> you mention pretty much everywhere, often with free shipping. Here's a
> link
> to WLL: http://www.wholelattelove.com/Bodum/pavina_cups.cfm
>
>
> Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
> --
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> http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 12:25:07
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:02:43 GMT, Robert Harmon
<r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote:
>Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote in
>news:057ue29ohh7el9kfeodekbm859m0ui2gth@4ax.com:
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>> Bodum Pavina
>
>I would only list items that are unique; special purchases, close outs &
>other lower than normal prices. The Bodum line is available at the price
>you mention pretty much everywhere, often with free shipping. Here's a link
>to WLL: http://www.wholelattelove.com/Bodum/pavina_cups.cfm
>
>
>Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
Not all the cups! We bought the 9 oz. cups as holiday gifts from
Amazon for $13. Thanks again, Randy. Keep it up.
Marshall
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 16:50:03
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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You can always throw in some of the larger sizes. I'm drinking a cappa out
of the one-size-up size, as I type. Still piping hot after half an hour!
(Also a good size for martinis.)
Go one size up further, and you've got a perfect size for ice drinks like
margaritas or White Russians (the Dude's drink, after all) or Irish Coffee
etc.
C
"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:057ue29ohh7el9kfeodekbm859m0ui2gth@4ax.com...
> Bodum Pavina 2 oz. Double-Wall Espresso Cups
> http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-Pavina-Double-Wall/dp/B000A5CLG6
> 2 for $11.95. Not the lowest price as such, but spend $25 for free
> shipping.
> Try http://beta.slickdeals.net/slickfillers/ for some fillers if you
> don't want to get 3 sets for the free shipping, or there are other
> sizes of the Pavinas available:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/collections/B000B56KQ2
>
> Randy "I don't work for Amazon, etc." G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>
>
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 15:23:31
From: Rich Adams
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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> http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-Pavina-Double-Wall/dp/B000A5CLG6
> 2 for $11.95. Not the lowest price as such, but spend $25 for free
> shipping.
9.99 now.
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 15:29:24
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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"Rich Adams" <radamsNO@SPAMkc.rr.com > wrote:
>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-Pavina-Double-Wall/dp/B000A5CLG6
>> 2 for $11.95. Not the lowest price as such, but spend $25 for free
>> shipping.
>
>
>
>9.99 now.
>
But those are from another seller and shipping is not included in the
price- be sure to check the bottom line before ordering...
Randy "not writing a check yet- not even a Slav" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 08:00:44
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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C'mon, guys. Randy is doing us a favor. If'n ya ain't interested,
smite the delete key but don't pick on the man for being helpful.
Will
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 06:19:15
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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ok, how much more time spent on this?
Dave
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 14:54:31
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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daveb wrote:
> ok, how much more time spent on this?
For as long as anyone wants to discuss the topic, I imagine. I find
it interesting since I'd not seen the cups before, but as they don't
have handles I'd not be so interested in using them in the espresso bar.
--
Regards, Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 12:47:43
From: Simpson
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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In article <4ldmg7F1cov4U2@individual.net >, danny@nospam.gaggia-
espresso.com says...
> daveb wrote:
> > ok, how much more time spent on this?
>
>
> For as long as anyone wants to discuss the topic, I imagine. I find
> it interesting since I'd not seen the cups before, but as they don't
> have handles I'd not be so interested in using them in the espresso bar.
Long enough for me to thank Randy for tuning me into this... the deal on
the 9oz ones was good and I've got three sets coming. Thanks Randy!
Ted
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 08:38:16
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote in message
news:4ldmg7F1cov4U2@individual.net...
> I find it interesting since I'd not seen the cups before, but as they
> don't have handles I'd not be so interested in using them in the espresso
> bar.
>
> --
> Regards, Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
>
I think the lack of handles would be the least of your problems. The
half-life of these cups in a commercial setting would be about a day. They
are way too fragile to use in any place other than a home, or perhaps in an
individual's office if he was incredibly careful.
ken
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 17:28:11
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jens_Axel_S=F8gaard?=
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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Ken Fox skrev:
> I think the lack of handles would be the least of your problems. The
> half-life of these cups in a commercial setting would be about a day. They
> are way too fragile to use in any place other than a home, or perhaps in an
> individual's office if he was incredibly careful.
I agree that they are too expensive for a commmercial setting. It is not
neccessary to be too cautious though.
Bodum's insulated glassware is made from durable Borosilicate glass.
Borosilicate glass is a strong heat-resistant glass that weighs less
than traditional glassware. Used to make scientific lab glass,
borosilicate glass (medical grade glass) is stronger than
traditional "soda-lime" glass and can be used for everything from
drinkware to cookware. Borosilicate glass substitutes boron oxide in
place of the soda and lime used in traditional glassware. The boron
oxide acts as a glue holding the silicate together and due to the
small size of boron particles, the glass is held together tighter,
resulting in a stronger glass. Some customers may perceive the glass
to be "thin" as they hold it. It is important to explain the
difference between borosilicate and soda lime glass. Borosilicate
glass doesn't need to be as thick as traditional glass to be just as
strong. Borosilicate is simply a different type of glass that is
resistant to temperature swings and scratching. Because the
particles are held together so tightly, borosilicate glass is
dishwasher safe and will not become cloudy over time; you can rest
assured that after 100 cycles, the glass will be as clear as the day
you bought it. Simply treat it as you would any glass product and it
will stand up to every day use. Dishwasher & microwave safe.
A little thought is needed though:
Please use care when placing ice into the glass to avoid fracturing
the inner layer. Please also avoid using metal spoons or placing the
glass into a crowded dishwasher.
I have a set of esspresso and a set of standard Pavinas and like
them very much.
I am considering investing in some Canteen glasses though.
<http://www.bodumusa.com/shop/line.asp?MD=2&GID=30&LID=488&CHK=&SLT=&mscssid=HVESR8W21K498PF7Q4B8N16V5K6GC735 >
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Jens Axel Søgaard
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 09:38:17
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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I've broken two of these; one was dropped several feet onto a carpet in the
kitchen, and the other into a stainless steel sink from only a short
distance up. Had these been ceramic or porcelain cups, which is what most
of us are used to using on a regular basis, both would have survived without
breakage.
These things are very fragile although with care they can be placed in the
dishwasher. Notwithstanding any additional strength, these glasses are NOT
as sturdy as your typical water glass, whose additional thickness (several
times as thick as the layers in the Pavina espresso cups) gives added
strength. Having no experience with other sizes of the glasses in the
Pavina series, I don't know if the larger sizes have thicker walls.
ken
"Jens Axel Søgaard" <usenet@soegaard.net > wrote in message
news:44f1ba13$0$880$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk...
> Ken Fox skrev:
>
>> I think the lack of handles would be the least of your problems. The
>> half-life of these cups in a commercial setting would be about a day.
>> They are way too fragile to use in any place other than a home, or
>> perhaps in an individual's office if he was incredibly careful.
>
> I agree that they are too expensive for a commmercial setting. It is not
> neccessary to be too cautious though.
>
> Bodum's insulated glassware is made from durable Borosilicate glass.
> Borosilicate glass is a strong heat-resistant glass that weighs less
> than traditional glassware. Used to make scientific lab glass,
> borosilicate glass (medical grade glass) is stronger than
> traditional "soda-lime" glass and can be used for everything from
> drinkware to cookware. Borosilicate glass substitutes boron oxide in
> place of the soda and lime used in traditional glassware. The boron
> oxide acts as a glue holding the silicate together and due to the
> small size of boron particles, the glass is held together tighter,
> resulting in a stronger glass. Some customers may perceive the glass
> to be "thin" as they hold it. It is important to explain the
> difference between borosilicate and soda lime glass. Borosilicate
> glass doesn't need to be as thick as traditional glass to be just as
> strong. Borosilicate is simply a different type of glass that is
> resistant to temperature swings and scratching. Because the
> particles are held together so tightly, borosilicate glass is
> dishwasher safe and will not become cloudy over time; you can rest
> assured that after 100 cycles, the glass will be as clear as the day
> you bought it. Simply treat it as you would any glass product and it
> will stand up to every day use. Dishwasher & microwave safe.
>
> A little thought is needed though:
>
> Please use care when placing ice into the glass to avoid fracturing
> the inner layer. Please also avoid using metal spoons or placing the
> glass into a crowded dishwasher.
>
> I have a set of esspresso and a set of standard Pavinas and like
> them very much.
>
> I am considering investing in some Canteen glasses though.
>
> <http://www.bodumusa.com/shop/line.asp?MD=2&GID=30&LID=488&CHK=&SLT=&mscssid=HVESR8W21K498PF7Q4B8N16V5K6GC735>
>
> --
> Jens Axel Søgaard
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 18:59:35
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jens_Axel_S=F8gaard?=
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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Ken Fox skrev:
> I've broken two of these; one was dropped several feet onto a carpet in the
> kitchen, and the other into a stainless steel sink from only a short
> distance up. Had these been ceramic or porcelain cups, which is what most
> of us are used to using on a regular basis, both would have survived without
> breakage.
>
> These things are very fragile although with care they can be placed in the
> dishwasher. Notwithstanding any additional strength, these glasses are NOT
> as sturdy as your typical water glass, whose additional thickness (several
> times as thick as the layers in the Pavina espresso cups) gives added
> strength. Having no experience with other sizes of the glasses in the
> Pavina series, I don't know if the larger sizes have thicker walls.
I better be more careful in the future then.
A closer examination of the thickness makes me believe that the
thickness is the same. It is hard to see the thickness due
to the double walls, so I might be wrong.
--
Jens Axel Søgaard
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Date: 31 Aug 2006 04:49:26
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Bodum Pavina Espresso cups- Amazon
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:38:17 -0600, "Ken Fox"
<morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com > wrote:
>These things are very fragile although with care they can be placed in the
>dishwasher. Notwithstanding any additional strength, these glasses are NOT
>as sturdy as your typical water glass, whose additional thickness (several
>times as thick as the layers in the Pavina espresso cups) gives added
>strength. Having no experience with other sizes of the glasses in the
>Pavina series, I don't know if the larger sizes have thicker walls.
>
also, a regular water glass has only atmospheric pressure pushing on
both sides of the glass, while the pavinas have a vacuum between the
layers. on a per-unit thickness basis, the borosilicate glass may be
stronger, but i think the vacuum will have something to say about any
scratches, dings, or other slight damage to which the glass might be
subjected (when compared to a 'normal' glass cup).
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