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Date: 18 Jul 2006 15:13:47
From: Ed
Subject: Braun coffee grinder repair
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My Braun coffee grinder has become very slow in feeding beans through.
I expect it's
due to oily beans. I had an earlier model (straight sided hopper) that
I could just unscrew
and clean it out, but this newer one with tapered hopper resists all
attempts to take apart.
I'm looking for some clues on how to take it apart to clean.
TIA
Ed
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 01:08:54
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:13:47 GMT, "Ed"
<jag_manR__EM*-0_V_E653@hotmail.com > wrote:
>My Braun coffee grinder has become very slow in feeding beans through.
>I expect it's
>due to oily beans.
the burrs are probably worn out.
throw it away.
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 02:17:32
From: Ed
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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"Barry Jarrett" <barry@rileys-coffee.com > wrote in message
news:to0rb2p423p8m4mbmepmte6a53bd8m06vs@4ax.com...
> the burrs are probably worn out.
>
> throw it away.
>
Thanks, Barry.
It could be that the burrs are worn... probably so. But why would that
make it feed more slowly?
I remember taking apart my old Braun burr grinder when it got slow,
cleaning out the fine, caked coffee in the
passageways, and restoring its previous performance.
Anyway, I always have an urge to fix old things rather than throw them
away. Since the alternative is to throw
it away, trying to get it apart is no loss.
Ed
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 12:22:32
From: LF
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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I was able to get a low end (Black and Decker Smart grind ...
http://tinyurl.com/lvluu ) burr grinder unclogged by feeding
it rice. I hear minute rice is best, but just used what I had -- long
grain white rice. Some people like a relatively new product, GRINDZ,
for cleaning coffee grinders. Never tried it, but Randy has a positive
review for it on his site. If you try this method, please let us know
how it goes.
Thanks,
Larry
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Date: 22 Jul 2006 03:04:00
From: Ed
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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"LF" <fieman@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1153336952.078081.276590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>I was able to get a low end (Black and Decker Smart grind ...
> http://tinyurl.com/lvluu ) burr grinder unclogged by feeding
> it rice. I hear minute rice is best, but just used what I had --
> long
> grain white rice. Some people like a relatively new product,
> GRINDZ,
> for cleaning coffee grinders. Never tried it, but Randy has a
> positive
> review for it on his site. If you try this method, please let us
> know
> how it goes.
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
Rice didn't help significantly. Subsequently, I again blew compressed
air threw
it. Some big chunks of caked coffee came out, but still no joy.
My assessment at this point is rice or similar may work if done
regularly,
but it's not going to help remove years worth of cake.
That Grindz stuff is too pricy to play with.
I'm about to retire the little guy to the garage.
Ed
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:06:00
From: George M. Middius
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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Ed said:
> That Grindz stuff is too pricy to play with.
Here's a discounted one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Urnex-Grindz-Coffee-Espresso-Grinder-Cleaner-Tablets_W0QQitemZ7616427617QQcmdZViewItem
--
"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 15:22:21
From: Johnny
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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"George M. Middius" <cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net > wrote
in message news:our8g21lq1rrlm6f7acuiae8h7nc3gvfjj@4ax.com...
>
>
> Ed said:
>
> > That Grindz stuff is too pricy to play with.
>
> Here's a discounted one:
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Urnex-Grindz-Coffee-Espresso-Grinder-Cleaner-Tablets_W0Q
QitemZ7616427617QQcmdZViewItem
>
or a qty discount for the same stuff in a bigger bottle (120g) at
http://www.urnex.com/onlinestore.htm at $10.95 before shipping versus $17.85
before shipping for the same qty from the auction.
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Date: 21 Jul 2006 20:22:17
From: Felix
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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Ed has:
> years worth of cake.
and was grinding oily beans ...
> I'm about to retire the little guy to the garage.
It won't do much good there in that condition. After a while, coffee
oil congeals, becoming very similar to glue. Since you have nothing to
lose at this point, consider penetrating oil. That's what I used to get
the discs out of my Ditting.
Compared to most of the grinders people talk about here, this one
didn't work that well when it was new. Time to buy a new grinder?
Felix
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Date: 23 Jul 2006 19:02:11
From: Ed
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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Felix,
Yes, I nearly always use Starbucks French Roast which come out of the
bag
glistening with oils.
And I agree, laying around the garage won't make it any better. Just
that it hurts less
if I hang on to it for a few years before tossing it...
So, yes, I am ready for a new one. Are you saying that the Braun 3045
wasn't very good?
I'm far from an aficionado, but I though it worked pretty well for 10
years or so.
What's better in the same price range, about $80 MSRP?
Ed
"Felix" <felixyen@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1153538537.494101.72510@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Ed has:
>> years worth of cake.
>
> and was grinding oily beans ...
>
>> I'm about to retire the little guy to the garage.
>
> It won't do much good there in that condition. After a while, coffee
> oil congeals, becoming very similar to glue. Since you have nothing
> to
> lose at this point, consider penetrating oil. That's what I used to
> get
> the discs out of my Ditting.
>
> Compared to most of the grinders people talk about here, this one
> didn't work that well when it was new. Time to buy a new grinder?
>
>
> Felix
>
>
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Date: 23 Jul 2006 13:45:43
From: Felix
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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Ed writes:
> And I agree, laying around the garage won't make it any better.
> Just that it hurts less if I hang on to it for a few years
> before tossing it...
It also hurts less if you toss it after making a valiant effort to
disassemble and clean it :-)
> So, yes, I am ready for a new one. Are you saying that the
> Braun 3045 wasn't very good?
If it was comparable to the Braun I owned, that's what I'm saying.
> What's better in the same price range, about $80 MSRP?
I'm reluctant to recommend any grinder in that range, especially
anything with a motor. Some people like one of the Capresso models,
others like the Bodum Antigua ...
Exaggerating slightly, all grinders are flawed. They either don't work
well enough, are too large, messy, noisy, expensive ... My favorite
relatively affordable one was my Bunn BCG, because it's easy to clean,
and Bunn sells replacement parts for it. But it costs about $150:
http://www.cw-usa.com/equipment-home-bunn-grinders-bcg.html
http://www.coffeemakersetc.com/bunn-white-coffee-grinder-p-33.html
It's also very noisy ...
Felix
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Date: 24 Jul 2006 22:50:00
From: Ed
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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"Felix" <felixyen@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> It also hurts less if you toss it after making a valiant effort to
> disassemble and clean it :-)
Here's what I've none so far:
Looked for hidden screws (must be well hidden)
Run rice through it. (Got a lot of brownish rise flour)
Used compressed air to blow through it both directions (got some big
chunks of caked coffee)
Still slow, and lot's of static electricity. I'm thinking the burrs
are worn out.
Maybe I'll poke around at it a bit more before chucking it.
>
> well enough, are too large, messy, noisy, expensive ... My favorite
> relatively affordable one was my Bunn BCG, because it's easy to
> clean,
> and Bunn sells replacement parts for it. But it costs about $150:
thanks, Felix
Ed
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Date: 25 Jul 2006 21:24:33
From: Ed
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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"Felix" <felixyen@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1153687543.429361.219590@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Exaggerating slightly, all grinders are flawed. They either don't work
> well enough, are too large, messy, noisy, expensive ... My favorite
> relatively affordable one was my Bunn BCG, because it's easy to
> clean,
> and Bunn sells replacement parts for it. But it costs about $150:
> Felix
Filex & others,
What do you think of the Krups GVX2?
http://www.kitchendirect.com/presentationpage1.cfm?pagename=productdisplay&manufacturer=Krups&productid=GVX2&finish=White/Metal&source=froogle
I was looking at one at Williams-Sonoma yesterday and noticed that the
top half of the grinder
comes out with a simple twist. That would allow easy cleaning. Also,
the burr plates are held on
with 3 screws, so I imagine they could be replaced. Since that pretty
well covers what might
be wrong with the Braun 3045, it seems pretty good for $60 on the Net
(plus shipping).
Ed
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Date: 25 Jul 2006 17:50:04
From: Felix
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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Ed asks:
> What do you think of the Krups GVX2?
I'm skeptical ... the de facto internet primer on affordable grinders
is Ken's:
http://www.kwilson.fsnet.co.uk/burrs.htm
The Krups (and our Braun's) are probably like the Gaggia MM, whereas
the Bunn BCG is one of the least expensive, serviceable grinders, with
real burrs.
Another grinder in the serviceable category is the Baratza Virtuoso,
which some contributors promoted before it was actually released.
(Conversely, I'm not condemning the Krups or your Braun because I've
never used either.) Baratza products seem to have initial-quality
issues, but Baratza does try to support them. Its web site lists
refurbished units for $150.
I like Baratza, because of the way it supported the (defective) Solis
espresso machines it distributed, but I think Bunn's after-sales
support is unmatched. For their BCG grinder, the warranty period is
three years, and look at the replacement parts (p. 15):
http://www.bunnomatic.com/pdfs/commercial/manuals/14002.9500.pdf
If you want another disposable grinder, there are plenty to choose
from. If you want something that will last ..
Felix
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Date: 26 Jul 2006 20:42:36
From: Ed
Subject: Re: Braun coffee grinder repair
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"Felix" <felixyen@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> I'm skeptical
I posed the question to KrupsUSA:
"Certain replacement parts are available for purchase for the GVX2
coffee grinder. The removable burr can be purchased and replaced,
however the lower burr would have to be replaced by an authorized
service center should that become necessary. "
I don't know why one couldn't replace the lower one too, as both are
fully exposed once the carrier for the upper one is removed with
a twist of the wrist. Both appear to be held in place by 3 Philips
head screws. But, maybe there is an alignment issue.
I will check out the Bunn too. Thanks.
Ed
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