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Date: 29 Aug 2006 06:43:00
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Subject: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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Hi All,
I've had this Gevalia coffee maker for about 3 years, and use it every
day:
http://www.1seenontvstore.com/images/products/gevalia-free.jpg
It's started sputtering quite a bit every time I make coffee, and to
brew my usual 8 cups is taking something like half an hour. I've tried
running several cycles each of that Dip-It cleaner and also vinegar to
try to clean it, but it doesn't seem to be having any effect.
Is it usual for a coffee maker to just up and die? I'm wondering if
there's just a leak somewhere in the system that's letting air in...
Any suggestions for fixing it before I go buy a new coffee maker?
Thanks,
Tom
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 07:23:21
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I've had this Gevalia coffee maker for about 3 years, and use it every
>day:
>
>http://www.1seenontvstore.com/images/products/gevalia-free.jpg
>
>It's started sputtering quite a bit every time I make coffee.....
I will assume that you have been suing tap water and that the machine
is now clogged with mineral deposits. To clean it you need to use a
product that is made to remove minerals (lime, calcium, etc.). Urnex
Dezcal or similar might work. If not, you can use citric acid powder
available at home beer brewing shops (see "How To #8" on my website).
Or try unsweetened Kool Aid (flavored citric acid).
Or, just go to Gevalia and rejoin and get another free coffee maker.
Randy "get better coffee" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:06:28
From:
Subject: Re: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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> I will assume that you have been suing tap water and that the machine
> is now clogged with mineral deposits.
Yes, although, I do filter the water first with one of those PUR water
filters that attach to your faucet.
> To clean it you need to use a
> product that is made to remove minerals (lime, calcium, etc.).
Would something like Limeaway or CLR be safe to use?
Thanks
Tom
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 16:50:06
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
>> I will assume that you have been suing tap water and that the machine
>> is now clogged with mineral deposits.
>
>Yes, although, I do filter the water first with one of those PUR water
>filters that attach to your faucet.
>
Although these do remove a bit of the minerals, if the water is quite
hard they are not very effective in that regard, at least according to
the Pur rep I spoke with at a store demo.
>> To clean it you need to use a
>> product that is made to remove minerals (lime, calcium, etc.).
>
>Would something like Limeaway or CLR be safe to use?
>
According to the instructions on the CLR bottle, yes.
Randy "likes the new coffee maker idea better ;-) " G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 18:49:10
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Subject: Re: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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> Randy "likes the new coffee maker idea better ;-) " G.
Well, the CLR made the coffee maker not work at all...huh. So, time for
a new machine.
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 09:36:18
From: sprsso
Subject: Re: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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So somebody told you to run CLR through a home brewer? Vinegar would
have been a much better solution. Just did a dozen Newcos and
Bloomfields with great success.
CLR and Limeaway are good for descaling parts, where you can see the
results, but tend to dislodge larger particles when run through a
machine, creating blockages within the flow system....al "CLR worked
on my FP"
On 29 Aug 2006 18:49:10 -0700, googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
>
>> Randy "likes the new coffee maker idea better ;-) " G.
>
>Well, the CLR made the coffee maker not work at all...huh. So, time for
>a new machine.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 17:22:49
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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On 29 Aug 2006 06:43:00 -0700, googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I've had this Gevalia coffee maker for about 3 years, and use it every
>day:
>
>http://www.1seenontvstore.com/images/products/gevalia-free.jpg
>
>It's started sputtering quite a bit every time I make coffee, and to
>brew my usual 8 cups is taking something like half an hour. I've tried
>running several cycles each of that Dip-It cleaner and also vinegar to
>try to clean it, but it doesn't seem to be having any effect.
>
>Is it usual for a coffee maker to just up and die? I'm wondering if
>there's just a leak somewhere in the system that's letting air in...
>
>Any suggestions for fixing it before I go buy a new coffee maker?
>
>Thanks,
>Tom
I ran into a similar situation at friends' vacation home. They'd
brought their clogged up every day Krups coffee maker.
It took half an hour to brew a pot.
Having nothing but vinegar at hand :
Full pot 50 / 50 vinegar and water :
Brew for 10 minutes.
Stop for 10 minutes
Brew for 10 minutes
Stop for 10 minutes
Brew to end.
Turn off machine and let mixture cool to tepid.
Repeat.
After 3 iterations, a full pot of mediocre coffee, in about 6 minutes.
And then I sent them a Presto Scandi for their hospitality...
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 00:39:22
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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Mine slowed down, pretty much same deal. Took the group cover off and
showerhead out and watched what's what. Some sputtering at the lower
boiler outlet plate, from the plate hole at an in/outside threaded,
center-slotted archor to mount the showerhead. Mucked a bit with a
heavy needle alongside the anchor bolt, between threads and side water
outlet clearance, but didn't go overboard probing up inside the boiler.
Screwdriver in center slot and backed out the shower anchor a turn
plus after running some vinegar twice through. Left backed as the
showerhead fit flush and snug (needs be check for future movement).
Kept it going hard all the while including subsequent clean water
flush. Heard vinegar's iffy and wanted to rule things out fast. Knew
the pump wasn't suspect (bypass steamwand feed was fine), so the boiler
or routing was impeding flow. Boiler was going to be next, but didn't
split it as the flow kicked back in. Clean for now - hard water
through a cheap grinder with talcum tendencies on a refurb of dubious
origins - and took one tamped extra hard to test OK.
I- >Ian wrote:
> On 29 Aug 2006 06:43:00 -0700, googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
>
> >Hi All,
> >
> >I've had this Gevalia coffee maker for about 3 years, and use it every
> >day:
> >
> >http://www.1seenontvstore.com/images/products/gevalia-free.jpg
> >
> >It's started sputtering quite a bit every time I make coffee, and to
> >brew my usual 8 cups is taking something like half an hour. I've tried
> >running several cycles each of that Dip-It cleaner and also vinegar to
> >try to clean it, but it doesn't seem to be having any effect.
> >
> >Is it usual for a coffee maker to just up and die? I'm wondering if
> >there's just a leak somewhere in the system that's letting air in...
> >
> >Any suggestions for fixing it before I go buy a new coffee maker?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Tom
>
> I ran into a similar situation at friends' vacation home. They'd
> brought their clogged up every day Krups coffee maker.
>
> It took half an hour to brew a pot.
>
> Having nothing but vinegar at hand :
>
> Full pot 50 / 50 vinegar and water :
> Brew for 10 minutes.
> Stop for 10 minutes
> Brew for 10 minutes
> Stop for 10 minutes
> Brew to end.
>
> Turn off machine and let mixture cool to tepid.
>
> Repeat.
>
> After 3 iterations, a full pot of mediocre coffee, in about 6 minutes.
>
> And then I sent them a Presto Scandi for their hospitality...
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 12:46:45
From:
Subject: Re: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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> That machine has received some excellent reviews, I own the DCC2000 and
> have been quite pleased with it.
I almost bought that one, but in the end decided that the inside coffee
chamber thing looked like it'd be a pain to clean...
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 22:04:30
From: Brian Colwell
Subject: Re: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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<googlegroups@gersic.com > wrote in message
news:1156967205.823440.136410@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
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>> That machine has received some excellent reviews, I own the DCC2000 and
>> have been quite pleased with it.
>
> I almost bought that one, but in the end decided that the inside coffee
> chamber thing looked like it'd be a pain to clean...
Actually, its not that bad, but you most likely made the right decision.
BMC
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 11:41:45
From:
Subject: Re: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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Well, I tried vinegar a few times, and I tried that Dip-It stuff.
Nothing seemed to help, so I decided to go with something more
powerful. I actually think the problem may have been something
unrelated to buildup, as I always used filtered water, cleaned it
pretty regularly (every few months), live in an area where the water
isn't very hard at all (our water comes from Lake Michigan, not from
underground) and it stopped working rather suddenly (one day it was
fine, the next day it was sputtering like mad).
However, I picked up a new Cuisinart DCC-1200 last night and I'm happy
with it. A new coffee maker is always fun.
I think, perhaps, that home brewers might just not be built for daily
use over a period of many years...
Thanks,
Tom
sprsso wrote:
> So somebody told you to run CLR through a home brewer? Vinegar would
> have been a much better solution. Just did a dozen Newcos and
> Bloomfields with great success.
> CLR and Limeaway are good for descaling parts, where you can see the
> results, but tend to dislodge larger particles when run through a
> machine, creating blockages within the flow system....al "CLR worked
> on my FP"
>
> On 29 Aug 2006 18:49:10 -0700, googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
>
> >
> >> Randy "likes the new coffee maker idea better ;-) " G.
> >
> >Well, the CLR made the coffee maker not work at all...huh. So, time for
> >a new machine.
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 18:52:57
From: Brian Colwell
Subject: Re: Coffee Maker Sputtering
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<googlegroups@gersic.com > wrote in message
news:1156963305.804922.170370@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Well, I tried vinegar a few times, and I tried that Dip-It stuff.
> Nothing seemed to help, so I decided to go with something more
> powerful. I actually think the problem may have been something
> unrelated to buildup, as I always used filtered water, cleaned it
> pretty regularly (every few months), live in an area where the water
> isn't very hard at all (our water comes from Lake Michigan, not from
> underground) and it stopped working rather suddenly (one day it was
> fine, the next day it was sputtering like mad).
>
> However, I picked up a new Cuisinart DCC-1200 last night and I'm happy
> with it. A new coffee maker is always fun.
>
> I think, perhaps, that home brewers might just not be built for daily
> use over a period of many years...
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> sprsso wrote:
>> So somebody told you to run CLR through a home brewer? Vinegar would
>> have been a much better solution. Just did a dozen Newcos and
>> Bloomfields with great success.
>> CLR and Limeaway are good for descaling parts, where you can see the
>> results, but tend to dislodge larger particles when run through a
>> machine, creating blockages within the flow system....al "CLR worked
>> on my FP"
>>
>> On 29 Aug 2006 18:49:10 -0700, googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> Randy "likes the new coffee maker idea better ;-) " G.
>> >
>> >Well, the CLR made the coffee maker not work at all...huh. So, time for
>> >a new machine.
>
That machine has received some excellent reviews, I own the DCC2000 and
have been quite pleased with it.
BMC
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