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Date: 24 Aug 2006 04:52:42
From: Scrodge
Subject: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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Long title but if your from New Zealand you'll know what it means
(sorry if i'm excluding anyone else out there, not my intention at
all.) Just wondering how many of you out there are from NZ and
consider yourselves bonified professional baristas? how many of you
love coffee and just how much? and finally what do you think of the
coffee scene in New Zealand?? sorry if any of this is a little much but
trying to figure out the scene in NZ and wondering where everyone
thinks they fit into it and where they think it's going....
Any thoughts??
Anyone
Peace
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 18:32:01
From: anthony
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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>
>
> > Long title but if your from New Zealand you'll know what it means
> > (sorry if i'm excluding anyone else out there, not my intention at
> > all.) Just wondering how many of you out there are from NZ and
> > consider yourselves bonified professional baristas? how many of you
> > love coffee and just how much? and finally what do you think of the
> > coffee scene in New Zealand?? sorry if any of this is a little much but
> > trying to figure out the scene in NZ and wondering where everyone
> > thinks they fit into it and where they think it's going....
> > Any thoughts??
> > Anyone
> > Peace
Well, I'm not from White Cloudland, but from a near-neighbour continent
which speaks a fairly similar tongue ... but I can report that on a
visit some eight months back I did find a little cafe in Napier which
served a fantastic macchiato. And that same cafe did better thin-crust
pizzas than I've ever been able to find over here! Can't remember the
name of the place, but you can find it easily enough by just asking the
waitress to put on the CD by Madeleine Peyroux -- if they've got it,
that's the place ...
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 17:24:55
From: Brent
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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> Well, I'm not from White Cloudland, but from a near-neighbour continent
> which speaks a fairly similar tongue ...
West Island!
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 09:26:49
From: Brent
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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I speak for all Kiwi alties when I say we drink instant coffee, preferably
"No Frills", out of preference to all other coffee.
Naturally we often struggle with the challenge of making instant, as nobody
has worked out the process to take our freshly roasted beans (from a range
of rosters from popcorn poppers to larger commercial drum roasters) and
convert them to instant granules. I guess it's that number 8 mentality that
makes us perservere.
I suspect that part of the problem is that we have thus far only been able
to source fresh high quality arabica beans, and will I imagine soon pool
together and bring in a container of old vietnamese robusta and give that a
go...
:)
Brent
> Long title but if your from New Zealand you'll know what it means
> (sorry if i'm excluding anyone else out there, not my intention at
> all.) Just wondering how many of you out there are from NZ and
> consider yourselves bonified professional baristas? how many of you
> love coffee and just how much? and finally what do you think of the
> coffee scene in New Zealand?? sorry if any of this is a little much but
> trying to figure out the scene in NZ and wondering where everyone
> thinks they fit into it and where they think it's going....
> Any thoughts??
> Anyone
> Peace
>
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 02:20:10
From: Scrodge
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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I think anyone passionate about anything falls into the dork category
in some was or another... I actually prefer geek or nerd though. Takes
a lot to explain to, how should i describe them... an outsider i guess
about the beauty of crema, velvet milk and the perfection one can
achieve vs the horror of burnt and over-extracted drinks. It's kinda
similiar to when i VJ at gigs... everyone else is partying hard and
we're the geeks hanging out behind our computers all night... It's
beyond epic but takes a certain kind of person I think....
HA
Viva la Dork/Geek/Nerd
Peace
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 17:30:47
From: Brent
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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In a slightly more serious vain...
Not aware of any pro baristas from NZ that lurk here, of course lurk is the
operative word... most of them hang around on coffeegeek, cos it's got
pictures!
There are however a great number of passionate proffessionals in the coffee
industry in NZ... and some dorks. Not sure where I fit in, but I am sure Rob
will put me in my place :)
Brent
> Long title but if your from New Zealand you'll know what it means
> (sorry if i'm excluding anyone else out there, not my intention at
> all.) Just wondering how many of you out there are from NZ and
> consider yourselves bonified professional baristas? how many of you
> love coffee and just how much? and finally what do you think of the
> coffee scene in New Zealand?? sorry if any of this is a little much but
> trying to figure out the scene in NZ and wondering where everyone
> thinks they fit into it and where they think it's going....
> Any thoughts??
> Anyone
> Peace
>
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 00:33:51
From: Rob van Loenhout
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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Yes well you know what Auckland rhymes with. ;-P
Rob
"Brent" <me@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:4l7f9fFk8stU1@individual.net...
> In a slightly more serious vain...
>
> Not aware of any pro baristas from NZ that lurk here, of course lurk is
the
> operative word... most of them hang around on coffeegeek, cos it's got
> pictures!
>
> There are however a great number of passionate proffessionals in the
coffee
> industry in NZ... and some dorks. Not sure where I fit in, but I am sure
Rob
> will put me in my place :)
>
> Brent
>
>
> > Long title but if your from New Zealand you'll know what it means
> > (sorry if i'm excluding anyone else out there, not my intention at
> > all.) Just wondering how many of you out there are from NZ and
> > consider yourselves bonified professional baristas? how many of you
> > love coffee and just how much? and finally what do you think of the
> > coffee scene in New Zealand?? sorry if any of this is a little much but
> > trying to figure out the scene in NZ and wondering where everyone
> > thinks they fit into it and where they think it's going....
> > Any thoughts??
> > Anyone
> > Peace
> >
>
>
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 09:48:58
From: Brent
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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yup, I am Dorklander and proud - got the latte stains in the car to prove
it, but I do have a provincial background... and I have even visited remote
outcrops of near civility like Christchurch... :)
Brent
(looking at getting a tractor for commuting in as well)
> Yes well you know what Auckland rhymes with. ;-P
>
>
> Rob
>
> >> In a slightly more serious vain...
>>
>> Not aware of any pro baristas from NZ that lurk here, of course lurk is
> the
>> operative word... most of them hang around on coffeegeek, cos it's got
>> pictures!
>>
>> There are however a great number of passionate proffessionals in the
> coffee
>> industry in NZ... and some dorks. Not sure where I fit in, but I am sure
> Rob
>> will put me in my place :)
>>
>> Brent
>>
>>
>> > Long title but if your from New Zealand you'll know what it means
>> > (sorry if i'm excluding anyone else out there, not my intention at
>> > all.) Just wondering how many of you out there are from NZ and
>> > consider yourselves bonified professional baristas? how many of you
>> > love coffee and just how much? and finally what do you think of the
>> > coffee scene in New Zealand?? sorry if any of this is a little much but
>> > trying to figure out the scene in NZ and wondering where everyone
>> > thinks they fit into it and where they think it's going....
>> > Any thoughts??
>> > Anyone
>> > Peace
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 23:13:50
From: Rob van Loenhout
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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"Brent" <me@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:4lehc4F1i7maU1@individual.net...
> yup, I am Dorklander and proud - got the latte stains in the car to prove
> it, but I do have a provincial background... and I have even visited
remote
> outcrops of near civility like Christchurch... :)
>
> Brent
> (looking at getting a tractor for commuting in as well)
That would be Gore
>
> > Yes well you know what Auckland rhymes with. ;-P
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > >> In a slightly more serious vain...
> >>
> >> Not aware of any pro baristas from NZ that lurk here, of course lurk is
> > the
> >> operative word... most of them hang around on coffeegeek, cos it's got
> >> pictures!
> >>
> >> There are however a great number of passionate proffessionals in the
> > coffee
> >> industry in NZ... and some dorks. Not sure where I fit in, but I am
sure
> > Rob
> >> will put me in my place :)
> >>
> >> Brent
> >>
> >>
> >> > Long title but if your from New Zealand you'll know what it means
> >> > (sorry if i'm excluding anyone else out there, not my intention at
> >> > all.) Just wondering how many of you out there are from NZ and
> >> > consider yourselves bonified professional baristas? how many of you
> >> > love coffee and just how much? and finally what do you think of the
> >> > coffee scene in New Zealand?? sorry if any of this is a little much
but
> >> > trying to figure out the scene in NZ and wondering where everyone
> >> > thinks they fit into it and where they think it's going....
> >> > Any thoughts??
> >> > Anyone
> >> > Peace
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 10:03:09
From: Brent
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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I know some really nice people who hail from Gore.
Both of them. :)
Brent
>> outcrops of near civility like Christchurch... :)
>>
>> Brent
>> (looking at getting a tractor for commuting in as well)
>
> That would be Gore
>
>
>>
>> > Yes well you know what Auckland rhymes with. ;-P
>> >
>> >
>> > Rob
>> >
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 23:13:16
From: Rob van Loenhout
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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How many fingers do they have?
"Brent" <me@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:4ljquvF29anvU1@individual.net...
> I know some really nice people who hail from Gore.
>
> Both of them. :)
>
> Brent
>
>
> >> outcrops of near civility like Christchurch... :)
> >>
> >> Brent
> >> (looking at getting a tractor for commuting in as well)
> >
> > That would be Gore
> >
> >
> >>
> >> > Yes well you know what Auckland rhymes with. ;-P
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Rob
> >> >
>
>
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 08:56:29
From: Brent
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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the usual number, what there's more nice people from gore?
By my count we must just about covered the whole population of gore and ex
gore people...
> How many fingers do they have?
>
>> I know some really nice people who hail from Gore.
>>
>> Both of them. :)
>>
>> Brent
>>
>>
>> >> outcrops of near civility like Christchurch... :)
>> >>
>> >> Brent
>> >> (looking at getting a tractor for commuting in as well)
>> >
>> > That would be Gore
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> > Yes well you know what Auckland rhymes with. ;-P
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Rob
>> >> >
>>
>>
>
>
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 14:24:22
From: Matt
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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Scrodge wrote:
> Long title but if your from New Zealand you'll know what it means
> (sorry if i'm excluding anyone else out there, not my intention at
> all.) Just wondering how many of you out there are from NZ and
> consider yourselves bonified professional baristas? how many of you
> love coffee and just how much? and finally what do you think of the
> coffee scene in New Zealand?? sorry if any of this is a little much but
> trying to figure out the scene in NZ and wondering where everyone
> thinks they fit into it and where they think it's going....
> Any thoughts??
> Anyone
> Peace
>
I'm an Aussie living in Wellywood, and have been making coffee full-time
for five months now - but nowhere near classing myself as a professional
barista! There are an amazing number of commercial roasters here, and I
was lucky enough to get work with my favourite.
Work for me has really transformed from a "romantic" notion of just
making coffee for people, to a daily challenge of chasing the perfect
base. And milk! Just when you think you have found the secret.....
I haven't travelled around NZ much, but I swear that coffee over here is
far more advanced compared to anything in my native Brissie. Whenever I
go back to visit with family I can hardly drink the coffee from the
cafes I used to frequent.
So much more to learn!
Matt.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 18:47:57
From: anthony
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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Brent wrote:
> > Well, I'm not from White Cloudland, but from a near-neighbour continent
> > which speaks a fairly similar tongue ...
>
> West Island!
Haven't heard that before ... like it!
I'm in fact from the Blue Mountains in NSW, just two hours by train
from the New Zealand suburb of Bondi.
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 15:21:18
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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"anthony" <anthonyjhcnospam@netscape.net > wrote in message
news:1156556877.177028.273080@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>
> Brent wrote:
>> > Well, I'm not from White Cloudland, but from a near-neighbour continent
>> > which speaks a fairly similar tongue ...
>>
>> West Island!
>
> Haven't heard that before ... like it!
> I'm in fact from the Blue Mountains in NSW, just two hours by train
> from the New Zealand suburb of Bondi.
>
ROFLMFAO "just two hours by train from the New Zealand suburb of Bondi."
Coffe in NZ makes up for some of the crap I had in that place just south of
Australia... Van Demons land ??
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 02:42:16
From: Scrodge
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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I'm fairly sure that Gore has nice people... so I've heard... i
actually know one... he's beyond happy that he left though. Think they
have coffee shops there?? I think I went to a tea rooms once, ha
Random drivvle.. how about that.
Peace
Brent wrote:
> I know some really nice people who hail from Gore.
>
> Both of them. :)
>
> Brent
>
>
> >> outcrops of near civility like Christchurch... :)
> >>
> >> Brent
> >> (looking at getting a tractor for commuting in as well)
> >
> > That would be Gore
> >
> >
> >>
> >> > Yes well you know what Auckland rhymes with. ;-P
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Rob
> >> >
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Date: 31 Aug 2006 09:00:16
From: Brent
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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oh, that makes three then :)
they make porridge there don't they?
Brent
> I'm fairly sure that Gore has nice people... so I've heard... i
> actually know one... he's beyond happy that he left though. Think they
> have coffee shops there?? I think I went to a tea rooms once, ha
> Random drivvle.. how about that.
> Peace
>
> Brent wrote:
>> I know some really nice people who hail from Gore.
>>
>> Both of them. :)
>>
>> Brent
>>
>>
>> >> outcrops of near civility like Christchurch... :)
>> >>
>> >> Brent
>> >> (looking at getting a tractor for commuting in as well)
>> >
>> > That would be Gore
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> > Yes well you know what Auckland rhymes with. ;-P
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Rob
>> >> >
>
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 15:03:52
From: jojobird
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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I'm from Oz. Was a touist in Auckland in Dec'br. LOVE IT!! the coffee
is much much better. except Starbucks coffee - do they ever wash their
cups?, machines? i don't know but whatever it is only their coffee is
bad - the cappus and lattes are great from the chain store by the
harbour to the lttle cafe in northern north island.
Scrodge wrote:
> Long title but if your from New Zealand you'll know what it means
> (sorry if i'm excluding anyone else out there, not my intention at
> all.) Just wondering how many of you out there are from NZ and
> consider yourselves bonified professional baristas? how many of you
> love coffee and just how much? and finally what do you think of the
> coffee scene in New Zealand?? sorry if any of this is a little much but
> trying to figure out the scene in NZ and wondering where everyone
> thinks they fit into it and where they think it's going....
> Any thoughts??
> Anyone
> Peace
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Date: 31 Aug 2006 03:35:14
From: Scrodge
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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sorry but yuck! i went ot auckland and all the coffee i had was
terrible... it was nearly all slightly overextracted weak ass single
shots. Sorry but coffee is meant to strong. I did have one okay
coffee in this random place in a mall opposite a record shop on K road.
It was really weak though but at least it tasted right. Oh yeah I
quite like people from auckland... especially my friends but being from
AK doesn't mean you know what good coffee tastes like, kinda like being
from Wellington doesn't instantly qualify you either.... but you're
still lovele people
Peace
jojobird wrote:
> I'm from Oz. Was a touist in Auckland in Dec'br. LOVE IT!! the coffee
> is much much better. except Starbucks coffee - do they ever wash their
> cups?, machines? i don't know but whatever it is only their coffee is
> bad - the cappus and lattes are great from the chain store by the
> harbour to the lttle cafe in northern north island.
>
>
>
> Scrodge wrote:
>
> > Long title but if your from New Zealand you'll know what it means
> > (sorry if i'm excluding anyone else out there, not my intention at
> > all.) Just wondering how many of you out there are from NZ and
> > consider yourselves bonified professional baristas? how many of you
> > love coffee and just how much? and finally what do you think of the
> > coffee scene in New Zealand?? sorry if any of this is a little much but
> > trying to figure out the scene in NZ and wondering where everyone
> > thinks they fit into it and where they think it's going....
> > Any thoughts??
> > Anyone
> > Peace
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 08:55:16
From: Brent
Subject: Re: Coffee in the land of the long white cloud
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yeah, there are really only a few places in Auckland doing really good
coffee...
Brent
> sorry but yuck! i went ot auckland and all the coffee i had was
> terrible... it was nearly all slightly overextracted weak ass single
> shots. Sorry but coffee is meant to strong. I did have one okay
> coffee in this random place in a mall opposite a record shop on K road.
> It was really weak though but at least it tasted right. Oh yeah I
> quite like people from auckland... especially my friends but being from
> AK doesn't mean you know what good coffee tastes like, kinda like being
> from Wellington doesn't instantly qualify you either.... but you're
> still lovele people
> Peace
>
>
> jojobird wrote:
>> I'm from Oz. Was a touist in Auckland in Dec'br. LOVE IT!! the coffee
>> is much much better. except Starbucks coffee - do they ever wash their
>> cups?, machines? i don't know but whatever it is only their coffee is
>> bad - the cappus and lattes are great from the chain store by the
>> harbour to the lttle cafe in northern north island.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scrodge wrote:
>>
>> > Long title but if your from New Zealand you'll know what it means
>> > (sorry if i'm excluding anyone else out there, not my intention at
>> > all.) Just wondering how many of you out there are from NZ and
>> > consider yourselves bonified professional baristas? how many of you
>> > love coffee and just how much? and finally what do you think of the
>> > coffee scene in New Zealand?? sorry if any of this is a little much but
>> > trying to figure out the scene in NZ and wondering where everyone
>> > thinks they fit into it and where they think it's going....
>> > Any thoughts??
>> > Anyone
>> > Peace
>
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