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Date: 11 Jul 2006 14:58:28
From: mike roberts
Subject: Consumer Reports Raitings on Coffee
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Eight O'Clock Columbian beans come in at #2 best coffee at $5.00 a lb.
(available at Super Walnuts)
I am biased because of the perfect taste of this Columbian coffee.
Eight O'Clock coffee beans were introduced by the former A&P chains and
have superior quality control.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/food/coffee-1204/ratings/index.htm
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Date: 11 Jul 2006 19:11:57
From: dcrehr
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports Raitings on Coffee
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I've always found Eight O'Clock to be an acceptable coffee on the road
when I've run out of the beans I've brought with me. On two week trips
to Indiana to visit family, it is readily available at the local
supermarkets.
DR
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Date: 11 Jul 2006 23:54:53
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports Raitings on Coffee
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:58:28 -0700, mike roberts <mrmr@verizon.net >
wrote:
>Eight O'Clock Columbian beans come in at #2 best coffee at $5.00 a lb.
>(available at Super Walnuts)
>
>I am biased because of the perfect taste of this Columbian coffee.
>
>Eight O'Clock coffee beans were introduced by the former A&P chains and
>have superior quality control.
>
>http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/food/coffee-1204/ratings/index.htm
Eight O'Clock is being acquired by India's Tata Coffee. If Eight
O'Clock is run as well as Mr. Tata's other businesses, its fans have
nothing to fear. And it's "Colombian."
Marshall
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Date: 11 Jul 2006 16:13:48
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports Raitings on Coffee
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your link only works for subscribers.
If this is the comparison they did a year or two ago, it is old news here
and has been discussed to death. Google groups is your friend
ken
"mike roberts" <mrmr@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:44B41F04.5080206@verizon.net...
> Eight O'Clock Columbian beans come in at #2 best coffee at $5.00 a lb.
> (available at Super Walnuts)
>
> I am biased because of the perfect taste of this Columbian coffee.
>
> Eight O'Clock coffee beans were introduced by the former A&P chains and
> have superior quality control.
>
> http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/food/coffee-1204/ratings/index.htm
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Date: 11 Jul 2006 15:47:47
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports Raitings on Coffee
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> If this is the comparison they did a year or two ago, it is old news here
> and has been discussed to death. Google groups is your friend
In which case no doubt 8 O'Clock Columbian has moved on to more Agent Orange
infested crops from underpaid exploited agroplantations.
C
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Date: 11 Jul 2006 17:13:01
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports Raitings on Coffee
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"Cordo" <cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com > wrote in message
news:e919qb$rf5$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>> If this is the comparison they did a year or two ago, it is old news here
>> and has been discussed to death. Google groups is your friend
>
> In which case no doubt 8 O'Clock Columbian has moved on to more Agent
> Orange infested crops from underpaid exploited agroplantations.
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> C
>
I thought agent orange was something we used in Vietnam; have they used it
in Columbia? If they are calling it "Columbian," maybe it is allowed to
have some Vietnamese Robusta in it, but I'd doubt that is a major component
(presumably they have other coffee misleadingly labelled that is primarily
that stuff).
ken
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Date: 11 Jul 2006 17:06:02
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports Raitings on Coffee
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I would imagine that "Colombian" in the title is a name, and it wouldn't
have to have any specific percentage of Colombian in it, unless it's called
"8' O'Clock Columbian's Columbian" but I"m probably wrong.
C
"Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:4hipljF1rhjgjU1@individual.net...
> "Cordo" <cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:e919qb$rf5$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>> If this is the comparison they did a year or two ago, it is old news
>>> here and has been discussed to death. Google groups is your friend
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>> In which case no doubt 8 O'Clock Columbian has moved on to more Agent
>> Orange infested crops from underpaid exploited agroplantations.
>>
>> C
>>
>
> I thought agent orange was something we used in Vietnam; have they used it
> in Columbia? If they are calling it "Columbian," maybe it is allowed to
> have some Vietnamese Robusta in it, but I'd doubt that is a major
> component (presumably they have other coffee misleadingly labelled that is
> primarily that stuff).
>
> ken
>
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Date: 13 Jul 2006 18:35:53
From:
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports Raitings on Coffee
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On 2006-07-11 cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com said:
Newsgroups: alt.coffee
I would imagine that "Colombian" in the title is a name, and it
wouldn't have to have any specific percentage of Colombian in it,
unless it's called "8' O'Clock Columbian's Columbian" but I"m
probably wrong.
----SNIP----
Yep, you probably are wrong there. Any consumer, presented with a label
that promises "100% Colombian" coffee has a right to expect that every
coffee bean that went into that can should have been grown in and exported
from the country of Colombia. A label promising coffee made from 100%
Arabica beans should reasonably be expected to contain only Arabica coffee,
no Robusta, regardless of the origin of the coffee.
Unlike "Kosher style" meat products, there is no such thing as Colombian
style coffee; it is either Colombian or it is not. Regardless of the merits
of Colombian coffee vs. some other origin coffee, and regardless of the
merits of Eight O'clock coffee vs. any other mainstream mass-market brand,
if the label says 100-percent Colombian, then the laws of the United States
require that the product under that label can contain no other origin of
coffee.
If you check your local supermarket, you will notice that there are several
different formulations of Eight O'clock coffee. At least among the
whole-bean versions, they all claim to be 100-percent Arabica, although they
don't all claim to be 100-percent Colombian.
If the label promises that the coffee contains Colombian coffee, or contains
Colombian beans, that is one thing; as far as allowable percentages goes,
anything goes. If it promises 100-percent Colombian, then the laws and
regulations, and regulatory interpretations of the laws require that
coffee that "contains" or is "made from" "100-percent" or "100%" or "%100"
"colombian coffee" must be exactly that. If it contains Robusta from
Vietnam or anywhere else, or Colombian beans from Brazil or anywhere else,
then the company is breaking the law in the marketing of that product, and
there are, umm, grounds for prosecution, or at least for a formal complaint
to the relevant regulatory agencies.
For those of you who think that if a coffee review appears in Consumer
Reports that it can have no validity since those people don't know good
coffee from a whole in the ground, you will note if you look at that article
that they remarked on how the overall quality of mass-market coffee has
declined since the previous time they published a similar review. Maybe the
largest coffee sellers know something most other people don't know, or hve
not yet figured out, namely that since most people alive in the
consumer-oriented western world formulate their tastes and opinions based on
frequent advertising, most people don't care, and wouldn't notice the
difference based on what is actually in that can / bag / box. If Folgers is
the freshest, and MaxwellHouse is always good to the last drop, and Hills
Brothers is so good that they sell their reject beans to their competitors,
and Blah-Blah-Blah, then they can get away with using the cheapest stuff
available and slip their advertising agencies a few millions to reassure the
swindled customer that the reputable old brand is still looking out for
their best interest when it comes to the quality of what will end up in
their morning cups.
Some of the insiders at Starbucks in their honest moments will tell you that
they are not really in the coffee business; they are in the Starbucks
business. They don't want their customers to think of coffee; they want
them to think in terms of Starbucks and have visions of little mermaids
dancing in their heads when they feel a need for that caffeine fix.
Brent Reynolds, Atlanta, GA USA
Email: dososaurus@bellsouth.net Phone: 1-404-814-0768
In The Search For Quality, There Is No Finish Line.
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Date: 13 Jul 2006 11:50:07
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports Raitings on Coffee
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<dososaurus@bellsouth.net > wrote in message
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> On 2006-07-11 cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com said:
> Newsgroups: alt.coffee
> I would imagine that "Colombian" in the title is a name, and it
> wouldn't have to have any specific percentage of Colombian in it,
> unless it's called "8' O'Clock Columbian's Columbian" but I"m
> probably wrong.
> ----SNIP----
> Yep, you probably are wrong there. Any consumer, presented with a label
> that promises "100% Colombian" coffee has a right to expect that every
No one posted that it says "100% Columbian"
C
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Date: 11 Jul 2006 19:28:31
From: ---MIKE---
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports Raitings on Coffee
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Based on the CU report, I tried the 8 o'clock columbian coffee. I liked
it but to get the decaf I had to drive 40 miles because my local super
market didn't (wouldn't) carry it. I now use the Green Mountain
columbian which I can get at Walmart.
---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44=B0 15' N - Elevation 1580')
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Date: 11 Jul 2006 19:26:00
From: St. John Smythe
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports Raitings on Coffee
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Ken Fox wrote:
> If they are calling it "Columbian," maybe it is allowed to
> have some Vietnamese Robusta in it, but I'd doubt that is a major component
> (presumably they have other coffee misleadingly labelled that is primarily
> that stuff).
If it's labled "Columbian," it could have anything in it. Colombian, on
the other hand...
--
St. John
No animal should ever jump on the dining room furniture unless
absolutely certain he can hold his own in conversation.
-Fran Lebowitz
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