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Date: 05 Dec 2003 18:30:10
From: JMS
Subject: Discount Coffee Beans?
My wife and I go through a pound of coffee beans in about 4 days, and
with the exception of the Eight O'Clock beans we buy at the local
SuperFresh grocery store ($7.99/3lbs and $4.99/3lbs when on sale), we
haven't found too many sources for discount beans. Since we go
through a fair amount of coffee, I'd be willing to purchase in 5 or 10
pound lots if that brought the price down.

Is anybody aware of sources for ROASTED (not green) beans at a
wholesale price, but available for retail customers?

Thanks,

John


 
Date: 05 Dec 2003 19:39:24
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"JMS" <jms@spamcop.net > wrote in message
news:d5edc21a.0312051830.401b4018@posting.google.com...
> My wife and I go through a pound of coffee beans in about 4 days, and
> with the exception of the Eight O'Clock beans we buy at the local
> SuperFresh grocery store ($7.99/3lbs and $4.99/3lbs when on sale), we
> haven't found too many sources for discount beans. Since we go
> through a fair amount of coffee, I'd be willing to purchase in 5 or 10
> pound lots if that brought the price down.
>
> Is anybody aware of sources for ROASTED (not green) beans at a
> wholesale price, but available for retail customers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John

Assuming you are serious (and one can never be sure around here), this is a
little like entering alt.porcelain.dresden and asking where you can obtain
some Chinese copies.

Some of the Costco warehouses roast beans on site, and by report the beans
they sell are fresh and good and cheap. Costco also sells some very cheap
stuff roasted in the last century under the name of, I think, "San Francisco
Bay," which is probably not much more expensive than the prices you quote.
You could always check a local wholesale grocery supply outfit and see if
they would consider selling beans to you in 5 or 10 lb. lots. The kind of
roasters we favor in this ng. would also sell you beans in quantity at a
discount, but they are going to charge hugely more than you are used to
paying, plus their freshness won't justify the cost if it is going to take
you up to 5 or 6 weeks to consume them.

ken




  
Date: 05 Dec 2003 19:00:03
From: Michael Thomas
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
Costco's fresh roasted beans work out to about $3/lb. A decent roast.
The espresso blend I tried took a little getting used to and didn't have
the subtlety or complexity of some of the local roasters. But then we
usually use our extractions for mochas anyway.

Based on the prices from JMS, these would still be a more expensive option.

Michael

Ken Fox wrote:
>
> "JMS" <jms@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:d5edc21a.0312051830.401b4018@posting.google.com...
> > My wife and I go through a pound of coffee beans in about 4 days, and
> > with the exception of the Eight O'Clock beans we buy at the local
> > SuperFresh grocery store ($7.99/3lbs and $4.99/3lbs when on sale), we
> > haven't found too many sources for discount beans. Since we go
> > through a fair amount of coffee, I'd be willing to purchase in 5 or 10
> > pound lots if that brought the price down.
> >
> > Is anybody aware of sources for ROASTED (not green) beans at a
> > wholesale price, but available for retail customers?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John
>
> Assuming you are serious (and one can never be sure around here), this is a
> little like entering alt.porcelain.dresden and asking where you can obtain
> some Chinese copies.
>
> Some of the Costco warehouses roast beans on site, and by report the beans
> they sell are fresh and good and cheap. Costco also sells some very cheap
> stuff roasted in the last century under the name of, I think, "San Francisco
> Bay," which is probably not much more expensive than the prices you quote.
> You could always check a local wholesale grocery supply outfit and see if
> they would consider selling beans to you in 5 or 10 lb. lots. The kind of
> roasters we favor in this ng. would also sell you beans in quantity at a
> discount, but they are going to charge hugely more than you are used to
> paying, plus their freshness won't justify the cost if it is going to take
> you up to 5 or 6 weeks to consume them.
>
> ken

--
Michael Thomas Creative
Creative/Art Direction
206.618.0266
spike@nwlink.com
http://www.nwlink.com/~spike


   
Date: 05 Dec 2003 21:27:39
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"Michael Thomas" <spike@nwlink.com > wrote in message
news:3FD14633.F1B39B9C@nwlink.com...
> Costco's fresh roasted beans work out to about $3/lb. A decent roast.
> The espresso blend I tried took a little getting used to and didn't have
> the subtlety or complexity of some of the local roasters. But then we
> usually use our extractions for mochas anyway.
>
> Based on the prices from JMS, these would still be a more expensive
option.
>
> Michael
>

yeah, and single thickness toilet paper sells for a pittance at the
janitorial supply houses, providing all the allure of ultra fine sandpaper
at a bargain price.

but would you want to use it in your home?

ken




    
Date: 05 Dec 2003 23:30:28
From: Michael Thomas
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
Ken Fox wrote:
>
> "Michael Thomas" <spike@nwlink.com> wrote in message
> news:3FD14633.F1B39B9C@nwlink.com...
> > Costco's fresh roasted beans work out to about $3/lb. A decent roast.
> > The espresso blend I tried took a little getting used to and didn't have
> > the subtlety or complexity of some of the local roasters. But then we
> > usually use our extractions for mochas anyway.
> >
> > Based on the prices from JMS, these would still be a more expensive
> option.
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
> yeah, and single thickness toilet paper sells for a pittance at the
> janitorial supply houses, providing all the allure of ultra fine sandpaper
> at a bargain price.
>
> but would you want to use it in your home?
>
> ken

Like most things Costco, the beans, like the tp, are acceptable every
day commodities. After you leave the checkout don't expect feelings of
euphoria. We tried their beans once and ended up blending them into a
larger bag of a roast we like better. We moved back to the
local/regional roasters and pay more for the quality and experience.

On the price/value equation the only way Costco could be beat is
roasting your own; however, I wouldn't recommend using that strategy
with toilet paper.

Michael


     
Date: 06 Dec 2003 07:34:13
From: Java Man (Espressopithecus)
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
In article <3FD18593.B89373F@nwlink.com >, spike@nwlink.com says...
> Ken Fox wrote:
> >
> > "Michael Thomas" <spike@nwlink.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FD14633.F1B39B9C@nwlink.com...
> > > Costco's fresh roasted beans work out to about $3/lb. A decent roast.
> > > The espresso blend I tried took a little getting used to and didn't have
> > > the subtlety or complexity of some of the local roasters. But then we
> > > usually use our extractions for mochas anyway.
> > >
> > > Based on the prices from JMS, these would still be a more expensive
> > option.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> >
> > yeah, and single thickness toilet paper sells for a pittance at the
> > janitorial supply houses, providing all the allure of ultra fine sandpaper
> > at a bargain price.
> >
> > but would you want to use it in your home?
> >
> > ken
>
> Like most things Costco, the beans, like the tp, are acceptable every
> day commodities. After you leave the checkout don't expect feelings of
> euphoria. We tried their beans once and ended up blending them into a
> larger bag of a roast we like better. We moved back to the
> local/regional roasters and pay more for the quality and experience.
>
> On the price/value equation the only way Costco could be beat is
> roasting your own; however, I wouldn't recommend using that strategy
> with toilet paper.
>
It's already been done. That's the new toilet paper Starbucks is
selling -- Charbutts. ;-)

Rick



   
Date: 14 Dec 2003 22:41:16
From: Starsha
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?

"Michael Thomas" <spike@nwlink.com > wrote

> Costco's fresh roasted beans work out to about $3/lb. A decent roast.

Anyone know of a Costco =anywhere= in SoCal w/ on-site roasting?

TIA,
S




    
Date: 14 Dec 2003 23:11:21
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:41:16 GMT, "Starsha"
<Starsha@spam.someone.else.com > wrote:

>
>"Michael Thomas" <spike@nwlink.com> wrote
>
>> Costco's fresh roasted beans work out to about $3/lb. A decent roast.
>
>Anyone know of a Costco =anywhere= in SoCal w/ on-site roasting?
>
>TIA,
>S

Van Nuys (on Sepulveda Blvd.) I talked to the "roastmaster" last week.
He pushes a button: coffee roasts. He pushes another button: bag
fills. He knows nothing about what goes into the machine, and he
doesn't drink coffee, either. But it sure is cheap!

Marshall





     
Date: 14 Dec 2003 16:28:56
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"Marshall" <mrfuss@IHATESPAMearthlink.net > wrote in message
news:parptvo5ulmff8vlskkg4hjgn2bq1n9t4v@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:41:16 GMT, "Starsha"
> <Starsha@spam.someone.else.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Michael Thomas" <spike@nwlink.com> wrote
> >
> >> Costco's fresh roasted beans work out to about $3/lb. A decent roast.
> >
> >Anyone know of a Costco =anywhere= in SoCal w/ on-site roasting?
> >
> >TIA,
> >S
>
> Van Nuys (on Sepulveda Blvd.) I talked to the "roastmaster" last week.
> He pushes a button: coffee roasts. He pushes another button: bag
> fills. He knows nothing about what goes into the machine, and he
> doesn't drink coffee, either. But it sure is cheap!
>
> Marshall
>
>
>

There's a similar concept going on in some grocery stores, including the
smallish one in my town. They have this automated roaster that does up to 4
lbs. at a time. Training consists of telling the button pusher which button
to push. Maintenance and bean supply done by owner of machine, who "lends"
machine to store in exchange for exclusive arrangement to sell them green
beans.

Can't see what is going on at all in this roaster -- it is just a roundish
black box from the outside. Appears to be an air roaster but not sure.
Forget the name on the roaster but it is not a name I recall seeing as a
roaster mfr., may be the distributor.

ken





      
Date: 14 Dec 2003 23:59:01
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:28:56 -0700, "Ken Fox"
<morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com > wrote:

>"Marshall" <mrfuss@IHATESPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:parptvo5ulmff8vlskkg4hjgn2bq1n9t4v@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:41:16 GMT, "Starsha"
>> <Starsha@spam.someone.else.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Michael Thomas" <spike@nwlink.com> wrote
>> >
>> >> Costco's fresh roasted beans work out to about $3/lb. A decent roast.
>> >
>> >Anyone know of a Costco =anywhere= in SoCal w/ on-site roasting?
>> >
>> >TIA,
>> >S
>>
>> Van Nuys (on Sepulveda Blvd.) I talked to the "roastmaster" last week.
>> He pushes a button: coffee roasts. He pushes another button: bag
>> fills. He knows nothing about what goes into the machine, and he
>> doesn't drink coffee, either. But it sure is cheap!
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>>
>>
>
>There's a similar concept going on in some grocery stores, including the
>smallish one in my town. They have this automated roaster that does up to 4
>lbs. at a time. Training consists of telling the button pusher which button
>to push. Maintenance and bean supply done by owner of machine, who "lends"
>machine to store in exchange for exclusive arrangement to sell them green
>beans.
>
>Can't see what is going on at all in this roaster -- it is just a roundish
>black box from the outside. Appears to be an air roaster but not sure.
>Forget the name on the roaster but it is not a name I recall seeing as a
>roaster mfr., may be the distributor.
>
>ken

The Costco machine is HUGE, with massive venting to the afterburner
and roof. Not a bit of roasting scent escapes. All you smell is the
nice aroma of bags de-gassing. The booth probably sells 4 lbs. every 5
minutes.

The other grocery roaster I've seen was at Wegman's in Ithaca, NY. It
was a for-real coffeeshop-size roaster (Probat or Diedrich, I think),
with a real roastperson attending it.

Marshall


       
Date: 16 Dec 2003 08:36:17
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
Marshall <mrfuss@IHATESPAMearthlink.net > wrote:



     
Date: 15 Dec 2003 02:34:14
From: Starsha
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?

"Marshall" <mrfuss@IHATESPAMearthlink.net > wrote

> >Anyone know of a Costco =anywhere= in SoCal w/ on-site roasting?
>
> Van Nuys (on Sepulveda Blvd.) I talked to the "roastmaster" last week.
> He pushes a button: coffee roasts. He pushes another button: bag
> fills. He knows nothing about what goes into the machine, and he
> doesn't drink coffee, either. But it sure is cheap!
>
One day, I will try roasting myself. Meanwhile, I would like to try theirs.
I haven't been able to find a Costco that roasts in the Inland Empire, so
thought I'd try to find one somewhere in SoCal.

Thank you again,
S




      
Date: 15 Dec 2003 03:02:20
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 02:34:14 GMT, "Starsha"
<Starsha@spam.someone.else.com > wrote:

>
>"Marshall" <mrfuss@IHATESPAMearthlink.net> wrote
>
>> >Anyone know of a Costco =anywhere= in SoCal w/ on-site roasting?
>>
>> Van Nuys (on Sepulveda Blvd.) I talked to the "roastmaster" last week.
>> He pushes a button: coffee roasts. He pushes another button: bag
>> fills. He knows nothing about what goes into the machine, and he
>> doesn't drink coffee, either. But it sure is cheap!
>>
>One day, I will try roasting myself. Meanwhile, I would like to try theirs.
>I haven't been able to find a Costco that roasts in the Inland Empire, so
>thought I'd try to find one somewhere in SoCal.
>
>Thank you again,
>S
>

Coffee Klatch in San Dimas is much closer to you. They cost more than
Costco (who doesn't?), but the quality will be much higher. Extra
bonus: if you luck out and arrive when Heather Perry is on duty, you
can get an espresso from the reigning U.S. Barista Champion.

COFFEE KLATCH
806-A W. ARROW HWY
TARGET CENTER
SAN DIMAS, CA 91773
Phone: (909) 599-0452

Marshall


       
Date: 15 Dec 2003 06:22:01
From: Starsha
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?

"Marshall" <mrfuss@IHATESPAMearthlink.net > wrote

> Coffee Klatch in San Dimas is much closer to you. They cost more than
> Costco (who doesn't?), but the quality will be much higher. Extra
> bonus: if you luck out and arrive when Heather Perry is on duty, you
> can get an espresso from the reigning U.S. Barista Champion.
>
> COFFEE KLATCH
> 806-A W. ARROW HWY
> TARGET CENTER
> SAN DIMAS, CA 91773
> Phone: (909) 599-0452
>
Thank you. I actually have a visit to Coffee Klatch on my list for a future
trip to the computer fair (about once a year or so).

S




    
Date: 16 Dec 2003 14:52:09
From: Michael Thomas
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
A call to your Costco warehouse might get you info on the nearest Costco
fresh roast. If you can set up -local- Costco business delivery in your
area you might be able to get it delivered with your $250 minimum order,
but this appears to be limited to Seattle, SF, LA and Phoenix.

We've gone back to buying mostly from local roasters. More interesting
character there.

Michael

Starsha wrote:
>
> "Michael Thomas" <spike@nwlink.com> wrote
>
> > Costco's fresh roasted beans work out to about $3/lb. A decent roast.
>
> Anyone know of a Costco =anywhere= in SoCal w/ on-site roasting?
>
> TIA,
> S

--
Michael Thomas Creative
Creative/Art Direction
206.618.0266
spike@nwlink.com
http://www.nwlink.com/~spike


     
Date: 22 Dec 2003 08:07:26
From: JLgershon
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
>From: Michael Thomas spike@nwlink.com

>
>We've gone back to buying mostly from local roasters. More interesting
>character there.

I do the same here in Orlando. Not only are the prices great, but I don't have
to pay any shipping charges. Also it enables me to inspect the beans before I
purchase them.
Peace, To A Point


 
Date: 05 Dec 2003 20:46:10
From: HarryM
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?

"JMS" <jms@spamcop.net > wrote in message
news:d5edc21a.0312051830.401b4018@posting.google.com...
> My wife and I go through a pound of coffee beans in about 4 days, and
> with the exception of the Eight O'Clock beans we buy at the local
> SuperFresh grocery store ($7.99/3lbs and $4.99/3lbs when on sale), we
> haven't found too many sources for discount beans. Since we go
> through a fair amount of coffee, I'd be willing to purchase in 5 or 10
> pound lots if that brought the price down.
>
> Is anybody aware of sources for ROASTED (not green) beans at a
> wholesale price, but available for retail customers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John

Wrong place to ask, I'm afraid. Many people here would not use coffee beans
roasted more than ten day ago. If you bought ten pounds at your rate of
consumption, you would be drinking stale coffee for the last 30 days. The
current price of green beans is $4.50 to $7.50 per pound for the types I
roast, so you already have less expensive coffee than most of us use.
harrym




 
Date: 05 Dec 2003 19:32:35
From: pptt2000
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
On 5 Dec 2003 18:30:10 -0800, jms@spamcop.net (JMS) wrote:

>My wife and I go through a pound of coffee beans in about 4 days, and
>with the exception of the Eight O'Clock beans we buy at the local
>SuperFresh grocery store ($7.99/3lbs and $4.99/3lbs when on sale), we
>haven't found too many sources for discount beans. Since we go
>through a fair amount of coffee, I'd be willing to purchase in 5 or 10
>pound lots if that brought the price down.
>
>Is anybody aware of sources for ROASTED (not green) beans at a
>wholesale price, but available for retail customers?
>
>Thanks,
>
>John

and a hearty welcome to you from alt.coffee.arrogantfukks.r.us


  
Date: 05 Dec 2003 21:29:20
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
hi anonymous sender.

Please add me to your sh*thead list if not already there.

ken

"pptt2000" <PPT2000@ > wrote in message
news:adj2tvo54d5br3u18qmq7334u0meoqdg28@4ax.com...
> On 5 Dec 2003 18:30:10 -0800, jms@spamcop.net (JMS) wrote:
>
> >My wife and I go through a pound of coffee beans in about 4 days, and
> >with the exception of the Eight O'Clock beans we buy at the local
> >SuperFresh grocery store ($7.99/3lbs and $4.99/3lbs when on sale), we
> >haven't found too many sources for discount beans. Since we go
> >through a fair amount of coffee, I'd be willing to purchase in 5 or 10
> >pound lots if that brought the price down.
> >
> >Is anybody aware of sources for ROASTED (not green) beans at a
> >wholesale price, but available for retail customers?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >John
>
> and a hearty welcome to you from alt.coffee.arrogantfukks.r.us




  
Date: 06 Dec 2003 21:34:16
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
pptt2000 <PPT2000@ > wrote:



   
Date: 06 Dec 2003 17:44:46
From: butch burton
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D. Ross) wrote in message news:<3fd249ab.2337259@localhost >...
> pptt2000 <PPT2000@> wrote:
>
>


    
Date: 08 Dec 2003 04:15:09
From: Donn Cave
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D. Ross) wrote in message news:<3fd249ab.2337259@localhost >...


     
Date: 07 Dec 2003 21:32:12
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"Donn Cave" <donn@drizzle.com > wrote in message
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> ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D. Ross) wrote in message
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>


      
Date: 08 Dec 2003 10:58:05
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com > wrote:



       
Date: 08 Dec 2003 08:07:38
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?

"D. Ross" <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu > wrote in message
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> "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>


        
Date: 08 Dec 2003 07:33:01
From: dmreed
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:br2440$26tmtd$1@ID-192261.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Opinions are, after all, like A**holes; everyone has one.

IMHO but not everyone is considerate and has a working brain...there is
never any excuse for rudeness




         
Date: 08 Dec 2003 11:35:30
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?

"dmreed" <dmreed@dmreed.com > wrote in message
news:w71Bb.30166$Bk1.25224@fed1read05...
> "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:br2440$26tmtd$1@ID-192261.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Opinions are, after all, like A**holes; everyone has one.
>
> IMHO but not everyone is considerate and has a working brain...there is
> never any excuse for rudeness
>
>

maybe you should re-read that quote; it is not calling anyone an a**hole,
rather it states that opinions are ubiquitous, in fact as common as
a**holes, which in fact is an entirely true statement. I am not the
originator of that quote, in fact I stole it from someone else on this ng
but I can't remember who I got it from.

Also, the word a**hole requires the reader to fill in the blanks and could
as easily be "anthole," "airhole," or anything else one chooses to make it.

ken
;-)




          
Date: 08 Dec 2003 11:05:50
From: dmreed
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
and if you reread my statement, you will see that I did not call anyone a
name : >)

"Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:br2g9o$27ba0q$1@ID-192261.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> "dmreed" <dmreed@dmreed.com> wrote in message
> news:w71Bb.30166$Bk1.25224@fed1read05...
> > "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:br2440$26tmtd$1@ID-192261.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Opinions are, after all, like A**holes; everyone has one.
> >
> > IMHO but not everyone is considerate and has a working brain...there is
> > never any excuse for rudeness
> >
> >
>
> maybe you should re-read that quote; it is not calling anyone an a**hole,
> rather it states that opinions are ubiquitous, in fact as common as
> a**holes, which in fact is an entirely true statement. I am not the
> originator of that quote, in fact I stole it from someone else on this ng
> but I can't remember who I got it from.
>
> Also, the word a**hole requires the reader to fill in the blanks and could
> as easily be "anthole," "airhole," or anything else one chooses to make
it.
>
> ken
> ;-)
>
>




          
Date: 08 Dec 2003 19:40:26
From:
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
In alt.coffee, Ken Fox <morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com > wrote:

> rather it states that opinions are ubiquitous, in fact as common as
> a**holes, which in fact is an entirely true statement. I am not the
> originator of that quote, in fact I stole it from someone else on this ng
> but I can't remember who I got it from.

Actually, it didn't originate here. It is part of an old espression:
"Opinions are like assholes; everyone has one, and they all stink."

HTH.


--
...I'm an air-conditioned gypsy...

- The Who


           
Date: 08 Dec 2003 13:17:29
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
<EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com > wrote in message
news:br2k3a$boj$1@reader2.panix.com...
> In alt.coffee, Ken Fox <morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > rather it states that opinions are ubiquitous, in fact as common as
> > a**holes, which in fact is an entirely true statement. I am not the
> > originator of that quote, in fact I stole it from someone else on this
ng
> > but I can't remember who I got it from.
>
> Actually, it didn't originate here. It is part of an old espression:
> "Opinions are like assholes; everyone has one, and they all stink."
>
> HTH.
>
>
> --
> ...I'm an air-conditioned gypsy...
>
> - The Who

I don't think I'd be very far wrong to suggest that most of what passes for
fact in this here world (all of it, not specifically a.c.) is in fact
opinion. And most opinions are way off base, unless of course they agree
with my own.

ken
;-)




        
Date: 09 Dec 2003 00:19:48
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com > wrote:



         
Date: 08 Dec 2003 21:08:58
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"D. Ross" <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu > wrote in message
news:3fd50f91.20155003@localhost...
> "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ken, the traditional social structure of a.c - the general harmoniousness,
> the 'just right' threshold of commercial presence, the general notion of
> what is and is not an appropriate post - was not an accident or random
> creation, no matter how it might have looked to you when you joined the
> group. It was rather the result of diligence and careful monitoring, made
> that much more difficult precisely because it is an unmoderated group.
>

David,

I think we could flatter ourselves a bit too much in this regard.

A very large portion of it is the topic itself, coffee, and the relatively
small number of people who find it interesting.

Coffee is not flashy, it is not "in," it is not "trendy." As a hobby, It is
an obscure interest that generally attracts people with a fairly high level
of education, people who also have the time to indulge themselves in
something that the vast majority of people consider "uninteresting." I've
never read a ng devoted to wine, or to fine food, or to expensive cigars,
but I'd be willing to bet that the people who stick around in such ngs are
relatively similar to those who inhabit this one. I have however spent a
bit of time on some computer component newsgroups, and found the people in
those ngs to be pretty much as "civilized" as those here. The number of
people out there who find Asus motherboards an interesting topic of
discussion is probably on a par with those who would participate on a.c., so
you are selecting out a lot of uncivil people.

The general level of discourse is more reflective of the people who hang
around here long term, than it is of any particular efforts made by these
people to propel the quality of discussion in one direction or another.

ken




          
Date: 09 Dec 2003 06:22:17
From: Donn Cave
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
Quoth "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeSNIPthis@hotmail.com >:
...


           
Date: 09 Dec 2003 09:52:39
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"Donn Cave" <donn@drizzle.com > wrote:



            
Date: 09 Dec 2003 08:08:48
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"D. Ross" <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu > wrote in message
news:3fd599ef.25592104@localhost...
> "Donn Cave" <donn@drizzle.com> wrote:
>
>


             
Date: 10 Dec 2003 10:02:28
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?


              
Date: 10 Dec 2003 10:56:34
From: Coffee for Connoisseurs
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
I rarely plonk people (it's actually fun to watch the evolution from newbie
to regular to (sometimes) pro, a la Mark Prince, North and Fortune) but
M'sieur Fox has been in my "arrogant turd" sin bin for the last 6 months. A
classic case of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. The most sincere
and humble poster to this newgroup also happens to be the one with a breadth
of coffee knowledge which parvenus like Ken might just aspire to with
another century of education or so, and to the best of my knowledge he (DNS)
has NEVER slagged off a sincere new poster to alt.coffee.

So, when Ken knows as much as Don, I'll grant him the right to be the
"alt.coffee moderator", unplonk him and be able to see his posts at first
hand. Until then, I'd suggest he pulls his head in.


--
Alan

alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au
www.coffeeco.com.au





               
Date: 10 Dec 2003 08:34:25
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"Coffee for Connoisseurs" <alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au > wrote in message
news:CZCBb.47327$aT.36203@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> I rarely plonk people (it's actually fun to watch the evolution from
newbie
> to regular to (sometimes) pro, a la Mark Prince, North and Fortune) but
> M'sieur Fox has been in my "arrogant turd" sin bin for the last 6 months.
A
> classic case of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. The most
sincere
> and humble poster to this newgroup also happens to be the one with a
breadth
> of coffee knowledge which parvenus like Ken might just aspire to with
> another century of education or so, and to the best of my knowledge he
(DNS)
> has NEVER slagged off a sincere new poster to alt.coffee.
>
> So, when Ken knows as much as Don, I'll grant him the right to be the
> "alt.coffee moderator", unplonk him and be able to see his posts at first
> hand. Until then, I'd suggest he pulls his head in.
>
>
> --
> Alan
>
> alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au
> www.coffeeco.com.au
>
>


Hey Alan,

Please put me into your plonk list and leave me there.

You have stated previously that i was in there but continue to respond to my
posts periodically. Please check all your computers and newsreader programs
to be sure you have them configured properly so that you won't ever have to
read another one of my posts. David is encouraged to do likewise if he so
desires.

Not everyone appreciates my posting style or sense of humor. Similarly,
there are certainly people on this ng whose posts annoy me, but few people
could care less about that so I see no reason to bore people with such
reactions; they can form their own opinions and they can choose who they
wish to read. If they don't care to read my posts then that is also fine.

Alan, I find a lot of your posts interesting (if primarily because you write
well and live halfway round the world), and have no intention of plonking
you (I don't have a plonk list, but I only read a portion of the a.c.
posts). I will respond when I care to, not because I expect or want you to
read them, but because the threads will end up in the archives and I might
possibly have something to add, whether or not you think it has any merit.

I've learned a lot from quite a few people on this ng., but not all that
much from either of the two of you. This is not because you don't have a
huge amount of knowledge, but simply because the sorts of things you post on
don't add much to my own experience with coffee. That is not to say that
they don't help a lot of other people here, which I am sure that they do.

Ken







              
Date: 10 Dec 2003 12:14:19
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"D. Ross" <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu > wrote in message
news:3fd6e722.33393740@localhost...
>


              
Date: 10 Dec 2003 23:52:12
From: Java Man (Espressopithecus)
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
In article <3fd6e722.33393740@localhost >, ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu
says...
> but we do occasionally forget ourselves
> and start acting like

> guardians of the One True Way.
>
Randy, will you make up the T-shirts?

;-)

Rick


              
Date: 21 Dec 2003 20:43:52
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:02:28 GMT, ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D.
Ross) wrote:

>alt.coffee has always been open to all discussions where the topic is
>clearly coffee, and I think it should remain so. People should not be told
>they're in the wrong place, and certainly not derogated, when they want to
>discuss mass-market or instant coffee, when they use a sub-$2000 espresso
>machine, when they like Starbucks.

fwiw, i, belatedly, concur.


--barry "only 2100 messages behind"





            
Date: 09 Dec 2003 21:03:22
From: HarryM
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?

"D. Ross" <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu > wrote in message
news:3fd599ef.25592104@localhost...
> "Donn Cave" <donn@drizzle.com> wrote:
>
>


            
Date: 10 Dec 2003 07:49:39
From: Donn Cave
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
Quoth ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D. Ross):


     
Date: 08 Dec 2003 17:56:24
From: mandycan
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?


As trolls go, this (the OP's) was a decent shot.




     
Date: 11 Dec 2003 06:50:50
From: JMS
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"Donn Cave" <donn@drizzle.com > wrote in message news:<1070856907.811260@yasure>...

> Now, questions about canned, preground coffee are an opportunity to
> talk about the alternatives to someone who hasn't heard all about it,
> and no doubt there are more and less effective ways to communicate.

Maybe something got lost in the translation, but my question wasn't
about canned, pre-ground coffee (I know better!). It was simply a
request for a source for some inexpensive beans.

Perhaps I should have elaborated to say that I'm well aware of the
virtues of freshly roasted beans. And perhaps for those who only
consume a pot of coffee per day, that's a reasonable way to go.

But rather than try to convince me to change my methods or "educate"
me, why not just answer the question if you have an answer, or ignore
it if you don't?

To those who offered Costco as an option, unforunately our local
Costco doesn't offer any fresh-roated beans. They carry the Kirkland
("Roasted by Starbucks") brand at $9.99/2 lbs, and Green Mountain
Coffee Roasters "Our Blend" at $10.99/2 lbs. Being pre-bagged and
all, I'm sure they wouldn't satisfy the fresh-ground snobs, but both
are reasonably good products.

Oh well... I guess I should've known better than to try to turn to
Usenet for assistance. I've been around long enough to know that if
you're looking for trolls, this is the place to find them.

jms


      
Date: 11 Dec 2003 14:59:04
From: Eric R.
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
On 11 Dec 2003 06:50:50 -0800, jms@spamcop.net (JMS) wrote:
>
>Oh well... I guess I should've known better than to try to turn to
>Usenet for assistance...
>

At least your post stirred up quite a debate. Thanks!

PS -- I recall you asked for roasted beans for less than $3.00/ lb. I
am unaware of any coffee at that price outside of that store-roasted
Costco stuff...

Although CCM Coffee in Tampa FL does have Columbian fresh roasted for
like $16.00 for a five pound brick plus shipping... so it would be a
little bit more than you pay now but probably a whole lot better
tasting...


Eric




       
Date: 11 Dec 2003 14:34:03
From: JMS
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"Eric R." <atlantagator.acc.refs@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:mp1htv48i7ron95c44boq2cohuv288d4vn@4ax.com...

> At least your post stirred up quite a debate. Thanks!

Yeah, well... I didn't intend it to, but apparently you can't get a straight
answer around here without everyone doubting your intentions and questioning
your taste in coffee.

Believe me, if we didn't drink so much, I'd be getting Jamaica Blue Mountain
shipped in by the truckload. But without drinking ourselves out of house
and home, the Eight O'Clock bean option is still far better than [gasp!]
Maxwell House, Folgers, etc.

> Although CCM Coffee in Tampa FL does have Columbian fresh roasted for
> like $16.00 for a five pound brick plus shipping... so it would be a
> little bit more than you pay now but probably a whole lot better
> tasting...

Thanks, Eric. That was the sort of thing I was hoping for. I'll check them
out.

John




        
Date: 11 Dec 2003 13:18:04
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"JMS" <jms@spamcop.DELETE-THIS-PART.net > wrote in message
news:P42dnZxrX6wrW0Wi4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> "Eric R." <atlantagator.acc.refs@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:mp1htv48i7ron95c44boq2cohuv288d4vn@4ax.com...
>
> > At least your post stirred up quite a debate. Thanks!
>
> Yeah, well... I didn't intend it to, but apparently you can't get a
straight
> answer around here without everyone doubting your intentions and
questioning
> your taste in coffee.
>
> Believe me, if we didn't drink so much, I'd be getting Jamaica Blue
Mountain
> shipped in by the truckload. But without drinking ourselves out of house
> and home, the Eight O'Clock bean option is still far better than [gasp!]
> Maxwell House, Folgers, etc.
>
> > Although CCM Coffee in Tampa FL does have Columbian fresh roasted for
> > like $16.00 for a five pound brick plus shipping... so it would be a
> > little bit more than you pay now but probably a whole lot better
> > tasting...
>
> Thanks, Eric. That was the sort of thing I was hoping for. I'll check
them
> out.
>
> John
>
>

I've never ordered roasted beans from them, but did get in on last year's
"Tampa Kona" deal plus ordered some other miscellaneous beans from them.
They are prompt, honest, reliable, consumer friendly, and CHEAP. When it
turned out that they were out of one bean type I'd ordered (something
non-descript, forget what), Julian, the proprietor, sold me something
similar for $1 per pound as recompense. He even called me on the phone to
apologize for being out of the bean I had ordered.

ken





        
Date: 11 Dec 2003 16:25:23
From: Luke
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:34:03 -0500, "JMS"
<jms@spamcop.DELETE-THIS-PART.net > wrote:

>"Eric R." <atlantagator.acc.refs@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:mp1htv48i7ron95c44boq2cohuv288d4vn@4ax.com...
[snippage]

>> Although CCM Coffee in Tampa FL does have Columbian fresh roasted for
>> like $16.00 for a five pound brick plus shipping... so it would be a
>> little bit more than you pay now but probably a whole lot better
>> tasting...
>
>Thanks, Eric. That was the sort of thing I was hoping for. I'll check them
>out.

You might also want to check out CmeBrew at:

http://www.cmebrewcoffee.com/

--
Luke
______________________________________________________________________
"My theory was a perfectly good one. The facts were misleading."
-- Dr. Hartz (Paul Lukas) in "The Lady Vanishes," 1938


         
Date: 13 Dec 2003 01:23:31
From: JMS
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"Luke" <luke@nowhere.com > wrote in message
news:s2vhtv4uifdrjerspldbof176ip4p1crnu@4ax.com...

> You might also want to check out CmeBrew at:
>
> http://www.cmebrewcoffee.com/

Thanks, Luke, I'll do that.

jms




          
Date: 13 Dec 2003 16:56:54
From: Nucer
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
You might want to try these people also

https://secure9.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=mctcom&BusT
ype=BtoC&Count1=274730861&Count2=191871285

Bob L
(still trying to find a local green supplier in Fort Worth, Tx)


           
Date: 13 Dec 2003 10:22:57
From: Luke
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
On 13 Dec 2003 16:56:54 GMT, nucer@aol.com (Nucer) wrote:

>You might want to try these people also
>
>https://secure9.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=mctcom&BusT
>ype=BtoC&Count1=274730861&Count2=191871285

Have you tried CmeBrew? Moore coffee seems about twice as much per
pound.

--
Luke


   
Date: 06 Dec 2003 22:54:28
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
"D. Ross" <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu > wrote in message
news:3fd249ab.2337259@localhost...
> pptt2000 <PPT2000@> wrote:
>
<snip >

> If someone who has been active on this newsgroup longer than I have cares
to
> make an opposing argument, I'm all ears.
>
> - David R.
>
> --
> http://www.demitasse.net

a horse! I see a very high horse!

ken
(or was it a hoarse?)




 
Date: 06 Dec 2003 05:18:56
From: DRM
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
8 O'Clock beans are one of the most palatable choices in the supermarket
coffee bean category, primarily because they are shipped whole bean and
ground by the consumer. If you want to save money and drink coffee with
about 10 times the flavor, consider roasting green beans. Like most things
in life, you get what you pay for.

Dillon



"JMS" <jms@spamcop.net > wrote in message
news:d5edc21a.0312051830.401b4018@posting.google.com...
> My wife and I go through a pound of coffee beans in about 4 days, and
> with the exception of the Eight O'Clock beans we buy at the local
> SuperFresh grocery store ($7.99/3lbs and $4.99/3lbs when on sale), we
> haven't found too many sources for discount beans. Since we go
> through a fair amount of coffee, I'd be willing to purchase in 5 or 10
> pound lots if that brought the price down.
>
> Is anybody aware of sources for ROASTED (not green) beans at a
> wholesale price, but available for retail customers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John




 
Date: 05 Dec 2003 21:51:16
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
Unless you use at least five pounds a week then purchasing ten pounds
is not a good idea. Two week old coffee at my house was thrown out
three days ago.

The best source for good, fresh coffee is to look for local roasters.
That could be coffee shops or commercial roasters willing to deal with
the public. That way you get fresh coffee that has more shelf life
left and you save shipping costs.

Even at the regular price of $8/3 lbs, that's $2.67 a pound, and
generally less than many of us pay for green coffee before shipping.
At the sale price it is only $1.66 a pound! Sounds like Robusta to me!

If you subtract the marketing, packaging, roasting, and shipping costs
of that coffee, think about what the roasting company pays for their
green beans.

jms@spamcop.net (JMS) wrote:

>My wife and I go through a pound of coffee beans in about 4 days, and
>with the exception of the Eight O'Clock beans we buy at the local
>SuperFresh grocery store ($7.99/3lbs and $4.99/3lbs when on sale), we
>haven't found too many sources for discount beans. Since we go
>through a fair amount of coffee, I'd be willing to purchase in 5 or 10
>pound lots if that brought the price down.
>
>Is anybody aware of sources for ROASTED (not green) beans at a
>wholesale price, but available for retail customers?
>
>Thanks,
>
>John


from Randy and Silvia and Rocky
http://www.quiknet.com/~frcn/Coffee/Coffee.html
reply to: frcn at cncnet dot com


 
Date: 06 Dec 2003 09:31:48
From: Steve Friedman
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
Yo could fill your 2 bag checked luggage allowance with 70 and 70 lbs
to 140 lbs

at 20 cents/lb thats 28 usd for 140 lbs.


Savings c/w 3usd/lb = 392 usd which very well may cover your airfare
to Ecuador.

During my last trip there I saw tons of arabica green going for 20
cents /lb.

Just pick up a roaster.





On 5 Dec 2003 18:30:10 -0800, jms@spamcop.net (JMS) wrote:

>My wife and I go through a pound of coffee beans in about 4 days, and
>with the exception of the Eight O'Clock beans we buy at the local
>SuperFresh grocery store ($7.99/3lbs and $4.99/3lbs when on sale), we
>haven't found too many sources for discount beans. Since we go
>through a fair amount of coffee, I'd be willing to purchase in 5 or 10
>pound lots if that brought the price down.
>
>Is anybody aware of sources for ROASTED (not green) beans at a
>wholesale price, but available for retail customers?
>
>Thanks,
>
>John



 
Date: 06 Dec 2003 22:01:40
From:
Subject: Re: Discount Coffee Beans?
Dear John,
You are doing OK in buying Eight O'Clock beans at the prices you
mentioned. You enjoy the taste, its available locally, and its a good
value. Relax and enjoy your coffee.

The Eight O'Clock brand dates back almost a century, and is an
outgrowth of the old A&P business founded originally in 1859. Though
the coffee company recently changed hands I expect that you will be
able to rely on the Eight O'Clock brand for years to come.

-DNS