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Date: 04 Jul 2006 15:44:31
From: Bay Coffee Roasters
Subject: ECM Giotto in hong kong not working due to mineral content in the water?
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A freind took her ECM Giotto Premium from Sydney to hong kong when she
moved. We both bought our ECM's from the same shipment, and they were both
working perfectly in Sydney.
When she moved to Hong Kong her machine started working erratically, and
then stopped producing enough steam to foam say half a 600ml jug. I thought
it may be either leaking from the boiler, not heating up properly or filling
up with too much water, the first two suggestions were not the case. This
all happened without any provocation, and my machine is still working fine.
now i thought the fill sensor in the machines boiler is triggered by the
conductivity of water, which is compromised in reverse osmosis water. and
that maybe the water in hong kong is filtered so much that all of its
mineral content is lost, thus reducing its conductivity and not telling the
machine to stop filling with water, which is producing less steam in the
boiler which is resulting in lower boiler pressure and less steam......
phew!.... I am also considering the fact that the water level sender unit
may simply be faulty.
am I right or is there another (much simpler) solution to this problem.?.
thoughts would be greatly appreciated..
cheers, evan
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Date: 04 Jul 2006 07:11:50
From: Coffee for Connoisseurs
Subject: Re: ECM Giotto in hong kong not working due to mineral content in the water?
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Sounds like her boiler isn't getting hot enough. The water sensor will turn
everything off if there's no current, so that's out, plus HK water has
sufficient ions to work anyway. First thing I'd check would be pressurestat
setting (should be 1.2 bar), then boiler level probe, then brain box.
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Alan
alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au
www.coffeeco.com.au
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Date: 04 Jul 2006 00:08:02
From: Paul Pratt
Subject: Re: ECM Giotto in hong kong not working due to mineral content in the water?
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Bay Coffee Roasters wrote:
> A freind took her ECM Giotto Premium from Sydney to hong kong when she
> moved. We both bought our ECM's from the same shipment, and they were both
> working perfectly in Sydney.
>
> When she moved to Hong Kong her machine started working erratically, and
> then stopped producing enough steam to foam say half a 600ml jug. I thought
> it may be either leaking from the boiler, not heating up properly or filling
> up with too much water, the first two suggestions were not the case. This
> all happened without any provocation, and my machine is still working fine.
>
> now i thought the fill sensor in the machines boiler is triggered by the
> conductivity of water, which is compromised in reverse osmosis water. and
> that maybe the water in hong kong is filtered so much that all of its
> mineral content is lost, thus reducing its conductivity and not telling the
> machine to stop filling with water, which is producing less steam in the
> boiler which is resulting in lower boiler pressure and less steam......
> phew!.... I am also considering the fact that the water level sender unit
> may simply be faulty.
>
> am I right or is there another (much simpler) solution to this problem.?.
> thoughts would be greatly appreciated..
>
> cheers, evan
Our tap water isn't that pure! I wish it was. Most of our bottled
water is so pure that it would cause a few probs.
By all means I can try and help your friend if they drop me an email.
Paul
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Date: 03 Jul 2006 23:23:52
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: ECM Giotto in hong kong not working due to mineral content in the water?
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You could always put a pinch of salt in the water reservoir. That should
provide plenty of conductivity and barely affect the taste.
C
"Bay Coffee Roasters" <sales@baycoffee.com.au > wrote in message
news:44aa0032$0$22693$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>A freind took her ECM Giotto Premium from Sydney to hong kong when she
>moved. We both bought our ECM's from the same shipment, and they were both
>working perfectly in Sydney.
>
> When she moved to Hong Kong her machine started working erratically, and
> then stopped producing enough steam to foam say half a 600ml jug. I
> thought it may be either leaking from the boiler, not heating up properly
> or filling up with too much water, the first two suggestions were not the
> case. This all happened without any provocation, and my machine is still
> working fine.
>
> now i thought the fill sensor in the machines boiler is triggered by the
> conductivity of water, which is compromised in reverse osmosis water. and
> that maybe the water in hong kong is filtered so much that all of its
> mineral content is lost, thus reducing its conductivity and not telling
> the machine to stop filling with water, which is producing less steam in
> the boiler which is resulting in lower boiler pressure and less
> steam...... phew!.... I am also considering the fact that the water level
> sender unit may simply be faulty.
>
> am I right or is there another (much simpler) solution to this problem.?.
> thoughts would be greatly appreciated..
>
> cheers, evan
>
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