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Date: 15 Aug 2006 23:22:02
From: Harold Fontemier
Subject: Fresh beans?
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I use a french press and truly enjoy the flavor. Looking for better taste in
my coffee.
I am pretty new to all of this, so be gentle.
Is there a noticeable difference in the taste of fresh beans you can order
from, say, the coffeefool online, and my local Kroger's with freshly ground
beans?
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 16:30:41
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Fresh beans?
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"Harold Fontemier" <fontemier@houston.rr.com > wrote:
>
>I use a french press and truly enjoy the flavor. Looking for better taste in
>my coffee.
>I am pretty new to all of this, so be gentle.
>Is there a noticeable difference in the taste of fresh beans you can order
>from, say, the coffeefool online, and my local Kroger's with freshly ground
>beans?
>
Mediocre fresh beans will make a better cup of coffee than
high-quality beans that are stale, all other things being equal. Fresh
is critical.
Once ground, coffee begins to stale very rapidly, so the first step is
to get a decent grinder. Even an "economy" burr grinder will be a big
step up from pre-ground. Grind just enough coffee for each use and
store the remainder of the beans in an air tight container, in a cool
place. Costco has a Cuisinart CCM-16PC grinder for about $30 (see
chapter 70 on my website), and although there are a LOT of grinders
that are a LOT better (and a lot more expensive), this one will/might
serve your needs (other than espresso) for a couple three years or so.
After that, check the phone book for local roasters. There are a lot
of shops that roast their own beans now, and most coffee folks are
more than willing to spend the time talking about their coffee. Get
friendly and find out when they roast and try to get some fresh. You
won't be live the difference!! Really!!!
Note that I did not mention home roasting.. DARN! Almost got away
with it.
Randy "fresh" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 02:18:23
From: Eureka
Subject: Re: Fresh beans?
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The origin of the beans is very important as well as the quality. You get
what you pay for. I assure you that to notice the difference in beans the
best thing to do is buy the best quality beans that you can afford and
compare it with REGULAR wholesale beans that you buy online and in
supermarkets. HUGE difference. At http://www.cafedepr.com you will find a
nice selection of both roasted and GREEN gourmet and regular beans.
"Harold Fontemier" <fontemier@houston.rr.com > wrote in message
news:uGsEg.3298$ph.3205@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>
> I use a french press and truly enjoy the flavor. Looking for better taste
> in my coffee.
> I am pretty new to all of this, so be gentle.
> Is there a noticeable difference in the taste of fresh beans you can order
> from, say, the coffeefool online, and my local Kroger's with freshly
> ground beans?
>
>
>
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 02:46:22
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Fresh beans?
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They'd have to be VERY good beans for those prices! But I'll admit I've
never knowingly had PR coffee so I have no way to compare it to anything
else. :(
--
Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
"Eureka" <noname@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:PfvEg.8314$5M.6458@trnddc02...
> The origin of the beans is very important as well as the quality. You get
> what you pay for. I assure you that to notice the difference in beans the
> best thing to do is buy the best quality beans that you can afford and
> compare it with REGULAR wholesale beans that you buy online and in
> supermarkets. HUGE difference. At http://www.cafedepr.com you will find
> a nice selection of both roasted and GREEN gourmet and regular beans.
>
>
>
> "Harold Fontemier" <fontemier@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:uGsEg.3298$ph.3205@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>
>> I use a french press and truly enjoy the flavor. Looking for better taste
>> in my coffee.
>> I am pretty new to all of this, so be gentle.
>> Is there a noticeable difference in the taste of fresh beans you can
>> order from, say, the coffeefool online, and my local Kroger's with
>> freshly ground beans?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 22:14:44
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Fresh beans?
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I have drunk PR coffee and wasn't impressed at all. And at those
prices, I won't be drinking anymore anytime soon.
In article <2GvEg.9458$0e5.4321@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote:
> They'd have to be VERY good beans for those prices! But I'll admit I've
> never knowingly had PR coffee so I have no way to compare it to anything
> else. :(
> --
> Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
> http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
> http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
>
> "Eureka" <noname@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:PfvEg.8314$5M.6458@trnddc02...
> > The origin of the beans is very important as well as the quality. You get
> > what you pay for. I assure you that to notice the difference in beans the
> > best thing to do is buy the best quality beans that you can afford and
> > compare it with REGULAR wholesale beans that you buy online and in
> > supermarkets. HUGE difference. At http://www.cafedepr.com you will find
> > a nice selection of both roasted and GREEN gourmet and regular beans.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Harold Fontemier" <fontemier@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:uGsEg.3298$ph.3205@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >>
> >> I use a french press and truly enjoy the flavor. Looking for better taste
> >> in my coffee.
> >> I am pretty new to all of this, so be gentle.
> >> Is there a noticeable difference in the taste of fresh beans you can
> >> order from, say, the coffeefool online, and my local Kroger's with
> >> freshly ground beans?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 14:43:41
From: Eureka
Subject: Re: Fresh beans?
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Lloyd,
To be fair with the farmers in Puerto Rico; would you tell the group the
name of the PR coffee you are familiar with that you 'were not impressed
with at all'. You see..... in Puerto Rico like in many parts of the world
you will find unscrupulous WHOLESALERS that their only interest is the
mighty dollar. These wholesalers know that there are some consumers that
will not try a particular coffee unless it's labeled with a FANCY name Mocha
this and Mocha that, or Kona the Barbarian, or Bangladesh Mountain Green,
etc.
The small farmers in Puerto Rico are working hard to correct the bad image
that these big wholesale roasters have created for their livelihood. There
are many coffees being offered online that you can buy in supermarkets that
contain blends of beans from countries outside of Puerto Rico. You really
do not know what you are getting unless you buy from a source that is
working with the farmers with the goal of improving the bad reputation of
the big roasters.
"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote in message
news:lloydparsons-8F4D0B.22144415082006@individual.net...
>I have drunk PR coffee and wasn't impressed at all. And at those
> prices, I won't be drinking anymore anytime soon.
>
>
> In article <2GvEg.9458$0e5.4321@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> They'd have to be VERY good beans for those prices! But I'll admit I've
>> never knowingly had PR coffee so I have no way to compare it to anything
>> else. :(
>> --
>> Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
>> http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
>> http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
>>
>> "Eureka" <noname@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:PfvEg.8314$5M.6458@trnddc02...
>> > The origin of the beans is very important as well as the quality. You
>> > get
>> > what you pay for. I assure you that to notice the difference in beans
>> > the
>> > best thing to do is buy the best quality beans that you can afford and
>> > compare it with REGULAR wholesale beans that you buy online and in
>> > supermarkets. HUGE difference. At http://www.cafedepr.com you will
>> > find
>> > a nice selection of both roasted and GREEN gourmet and regular beans.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Harold Fontemier" <fontemier@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:uGsEg.3298$ph.3205@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> >>
>> >> I use a french press and truly enjoy the flavor. Looking for better
>> >> taste
>> >> in my coffee.
>> >> I am pretty new to all of this, so be gentle.
>> >> Is there a noticeable difference in the taste of fresh beans you can
>> >> order from, say, the coffeefool online, and my local Kroger's with
>> >> freshly ground beans?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 15:32:42
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Fresh beans?
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Good points, but that doesn't address the exorbitant prices listed, does it?
--
Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
"Eureka" <noname@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:xaGEg.70175$MW.67751@trnddc04...
> Lloyd,
> To be fair with the farmers in Puerto Rico; would you tell the group the
> name of the PR coffee you are familiar with that you 'were not impressed
> with at all'. You see..... in Puerto Rico like in many parts of the world
> you will find unscrupulous WHOLESALERS that their only interest is the
> mighty dollar. These wholesalers know that there are some consumers that
> will not try a particular coffee unless it's labeled with a FANCY name
> Mocha this and Mocha that, or Kona the Barbarian, or Bangladesh Mountain
> Green, etc.
>
> The small farmers in Puerto Rico are working hard to correct the bad image
> that these big wholesale roasters have created for their livelihood.
> There are many coffees being offered online that you can buy in
> supermarkets that contain blends of beans from countries outside of Puerto
> Rico. You really do not know what you are getting unless you buy from a
> source that is working with the farmers with the goal of improving the bad
> reputation of the big roasters.
>
>
>
>
> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:lloydparsons-8F4D0B.22144415082006@individual.net...
>>I have drunk PR coffee and wasn't impressed at all. And at those
>> prices, I won't be drinking anymore anytime soon.
>>
>>
>> In article <2GvEg.9458$0e5.4321@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
>> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> They'd have to be VERY good beans for those prices! But I'll admit I've
>>> never knowingly had PR coffee so I have no way to compare it to anything
>>> else. :(
>>> --
>>> Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
>>> http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
>>> http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
>>>
>>> "Eureka" <noname@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:PfvEg.8314$5M.6458@trnddc02...
>>> > The origin of the beans is very important as well as the quality. You
>>> > get
>>> > what you pay for. I assure you that to notice the difference in beans
>>> > the
>>> > best thing to do is buy the best quality beans that you can afford and
>>> > compare it with REGULAR wholesale beans that you buy online and in
>>> > supermarkets. HUGE difference. At http://www.cafedepr.com you will
>>> > find
>>> > a nice selection of both roasted and GREEN gourmet and regular beans.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Harold Fontemier" <fontemier@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:uGsEg.3298$ph.3205@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>> >>
>>> >> I use a french press and truly enjoy the flavor. Looking for better
>>> >> taste
>>> >> in my coffee.
>>> >> I am pretty new to all of this, so be gentle.
>>> >> Is there a noticeable difference in the taste of fresh beans you can
>>> >> order from, say, the coffeefool online, and my local Kroger's with
>>> >> freshly ground beans?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>
>
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 12:21:34
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Fresh beans?
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In article <xaGEg.70175$MW.67751@trnddc04 >,
"Eureka" <noname@verizon.net > wrote:
> Lloyd,
> To be fair with the farmers in Puerto Rico; would you tell the group the
> name of the PR coffee you are familiar with that you 'were not impressed
> with at all'. You see..... in Puerto Rico like in many parts of the world
> you will find unscrupulous WHOLESALERS that their only interest is the
> mighty dollar. These wholesalers know that there are some consumers that
> will not try a particular coffee unless it's labeled with a FANCY name Mocha
> this and Mocha that, or Kona the Barbarian, or Bangladesh Mountain Green,
> etc.
>
> The small farmers in Puerto Rico are working hard to correct the bad image
> that these big wholesale roasters have created for their livelihood. There
> are many coffees being offered online that you can buy in supermarkets that
> contain blends of beans from countries outside of Puerto Rico. You really
> do not know what you are getting unless you buy from a source that is
> working with the farmers with the goal of improving the bad reputation of
> the big roasters.
Fair request, I guess I should have been more specific.
I have no experience with PR coffee except what I drank down there on
visits. I tried a few different coffee shops, but they were preparing
the coffee.
So the be fair, I would say that my experience with PR coffee shops in
San Juan was not positive, rather than the coffee itself.
I stand corrected and apologetic for misrepresenting my experience.
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 00:15:12
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Fresh beans?
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:22:02 GMT, "Harold Fontemier"
<fontemier@houston.rr.com > wrote:
>
>I use a french press and truly enjoy the flavor. Looking for better taste in
>my coffee.
>I am pretty new to all of this, so be gentle.
>Is there a noticeable difference in the taste of fresh beans you can order
>from, say, the coffeefool online, and my local Kroger's with freshly ground
>beans?
>
>
If you're asking the question, you already know the answer.
Welcome to the Far Side of Sanity.
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 11:54:04
From: Anon
Subject: Re: Fresh beans?
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When it comes to coffee bean freshness, is seems to be a matter of YMMV. I
personally will not use beans that are over 7 days from the roaster. That is
why I roast my own in small batches, only enough to last 4-5 days.
If you like french press coffee, check out the AeroPress. It makes better
coffee, IMHO, and it is good to the last drop (no sediment).
"Harold Fontemier" <fontemier@houston.rr.com > wrote in message
news:uGsEg.3298$ph.3205@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>
> I use a french press and truly enjoy the flavor. Looking for better taste
> in my coffee.
> I am pretty new to all of this, so be gentle.
> Is there a noticeable difference in the taste of fresh beans you can order
> from, say, the coffeefool online, and my local Kroger's with freshly
> ground beans?
>
>
>
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 19:47:44
From: Eureka
Subject: Re: Fresh beans?
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Anon,
Most definitely if you are able to roast your own you will experience coffee
the way it was intended to be prepared for the ultimate enjoyment. Keep in
mind that most people buy their coffee already roasted and ground. I agree
with you.... there is nothing in this world that compares with the aroma
that permeates the air around you when you roast and grind your own beans
and then brew to your taste to enjoy the best cup in the world. There is no
coffee shop in the world that would be able to match the experience
including the biggies with letters SB. However to maximize your experience
make sure you get the best quality beans for your budget and the origin of
cultivation.
"Anon" <anon@anon.com > wrote in message
news:-tudnfazrNle9H7ZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> When it comes to coffee bean freshness, is seems to be a matter of YMMV. I
> personally will not use beans that are over 7 days from the roaster. That
> is why I roast my own in small batches, only enough to last 4-5 days.
>
> If you like french press coffee, check out the AeroPress. It makes better
> coffee, IMHO, and it is good to the last drop (no sediment).
>
> "Harold Fontemier" <fontemier@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:uGsEg.3298$ph.3205@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>
>> I use a french press and truly enjoy the flavor. Looking for better taste
>> in my coffee.
>> I am pretty new to all of this, so be gentle.
>> Is there a noticeable difference in the taste of fresh beans you can
>> order from, say, the coffeefool online, and my local Kroger's with
>> freshly ground beans?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 13:02:40
From: Anon
Subject: Re: Fresh beans?
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Right now I am alternating between Smithfarms Kona peaberry and my own blend
of Columbian and Yemen. I roast both to City+, the blend roast unevenly
giving it a character all its own.
Both go great in the AeroPress which has replaced my vacuum pot. It makes
equally good coffee without the lengthy preparation time and cleanup.
"Eureka" <noname@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:ADKEg.10359$5M.2846@trnddc02...
> Anon,
> Most definitely if you are able to roast your own you will experience
> coffee the way it was intended to be prepared for the ultimate enjoyment.
> Keep in mind that most people buy their coffee already roasted and ground.
> I agree with you.... there is nothing in this world that compares with the
> aroma that permeates the air around you when you roast and grind your own
> beans and then brew to your taste to enjoy the best cup in the world.
> There is no coffee shop in the world that would be able to match the
> experience including the biggies with letters SB. However to maximize
> your experience make sure you get the best quality beans for your budget
> and the origin of cultivation.
>
>
> "Anon" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
> news:-tudnfazrNle9H7ZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> When it comes to coffee bean freshness, is seems to be a matter of YMMV.
>> I personally will not use beans that are over 7 days from the roaster.
>> That is why I roast my own in small batches, only enough to last 4-5
>> days.
>>
>> If you like french press coffee, check out the AeroPress. It makes better
>> coffee, IMHO, and it is good to the last drop (no sediment).
>>
>> "Harold Fontemier" <fontemier@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:uGsEg.3298$ph.3205@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>>
>>> I use a french press and truly enjoy the flavor. Looking for better
>>> taste in my coffee.
>>> I am pretty new to all of this, so be gentle.
>>> Is there a noticeable difference in the taste of fresh beans you can
>>> order from, say, the coffeefool online, and my local Kroger's with
>>> freshly ground beans?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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