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Date: 25 Jun 2006 07:34:32
From: dfk_41
Subject: GENE CAFE ROASTER........hAS ANYONE BOUGHT ONE.VIEWS PLEASE
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Date: 25 Jun 2006 02:36:38
From: Phil Paintin
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER........hAS ANYONE BOUGHT ONE.VIEWS PLEASE
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dfk_41 wrote:
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The Gene roasters haven't been available in the 'States as long as they
have in Europe, and since there aren't many a.c posters from Europe,
you may have more luck asking the question at www.toomuchcoffee.com
-- several ppl there have bought one.
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Date: 25 Jun 2006 14:37:21
From:
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER........hAS ANYONE BOUGHT ONE.VIEWS PLEASE
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dfk_41 wrote:
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I have not bought one to review, however many people I know have one
and the consensus is they enjoy it. A couple of faults: Slow cooldown
time, and the chaff "scraper/collector" mechanism binds up a bit with
use.
Personally I think its a bit pricey, and I do not agree with their
claim that it is a commercial coffee roaster (as per their site at
www.genecafe.com).
I would like to see their design applied towards a much larger
commercial model, not one that only roasts up to 300 grams.
Marty
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Date: 25 Jun 2006 14:07:49
From: JoeP
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER........hAS ANYONE BOUGHT ONE.VIEWS PLEASE
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dfk_41 wrote:
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Several people went in on a group buy of them at
www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com also and so far the reviews have been
excellent. One person had a bad experience but I beleive the customer
service was extremely satisfactory.
Joe
www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com
"freinds getting together splitting bags of coffee"
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Date: 27 Jun 2006 10:40:40
From: fullsack
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER........hAS ANYONE BOUGHT ONE.VIEWS PLEASE
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Phil Paintin wrote:
> dfk_41 wrote:
> >
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> The Gene roasters haven't been available in the 'States as long as they
> have in Europe, and since there aren't many a.c posters from Europe,
> you may have more luck asking the question at www.toomuchcoffee.com
> -- several ppl there have bought one.
I have both the Gene and a HotTop and use the HotTop more often due to
its cooling tray. When I do use the Gene, I place the HotTop cooling
tray on top of a large mixing bowl, (a perfect fit), pour in the warm
beans from the Gene and rotate the cooling arm by hand. It's kind of a
pain and takes a while. I think the slower cool down of the Gene makes
the roast less predictable.
Shaking the cooling tray over the mixing bowl removes a lot of chaff.
Fullsack
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 08:55:29
From: daveb
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER...More horrible english
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Going OT.
and just what does that mean?
Steve wrote:
> On 28 Jun 2006 06:21:46 -0700, "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >True, but why IRRITATE your prospects?
>
> Isn't that _your_ business plan?
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 06:21:46
From: daveb
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER...More horrible english
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True, but why IRRITATE your prospects?
d
Omniryx@gmail.com wrote:
> daveb wrote:
> > No, I mean ENGLISH that makes sense and is something like that spoken
> > here in the US and elsewhere.
> <snip>
> (It looks like english as taught
> > in a classroom in Seoul, by a native Korean)
>
> Yeah, it can be a little irritating but I try to be tolerant. Whoever
> did the translation, his English is better than my Korean.
>
> Will
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 15:43:32
From: Steve
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER...More horrible english
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On 28 Jun 2006 06:21:46 -0700, "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote:
>True, but why IRRITATE your prospects?
Isn't that _your_ business plan?
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 05:35:29
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER...More horrible english
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daveb wrote:
> No, I mean ENGLISH that makes sense and is something like that spoken
> here in the US and elsewhere.
<snip >
(It looks like english as taught
> in a classroom in Seoul, by a native Korean)
Yeah, it can be a little irritating but I try to be tolerant. Whoever
did the translation, his English is better than my Korean.
Will
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 04:48:49
From: daveb
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER...More horrible english
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No, I mean ENGLISH that makes sense and is something like that spoken
here in the US and elsewhere.
You know, a web site written with decent grammar, spelling, syntax and
the like.
It shows laziness and a contempt for North America, Britain and other
countries, where english is spoken. (It looks like english as taught
in a classroom in Seoul, by a native Korean)
It is all in a grand tradition, started by the Italians.
Ritske Rensma wrote:
> daveb wrote:
> > It would be nice it they translated their site -- and manual into
> > ACTUAL ENGLISH.
> >
>
> They recently translated the site in english (don't know about the
> mantual, though, although from what I've read I get the impression
> that's in English as well at this point).
>
> Gene Cafe website in English: http://tinyurl.com/z4s9m
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 20:12:10
From: Danny
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER...More horrible english
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daveb wrote:
> No, I mean ENGLISH that makes sense and is something like that spoken
> here in the US and elsewhere.
>
> You know, a web site written with decent grammar, spelling, syntax and
> the like.
>
> It shows laziness and a contempt for North America, Britain and other
> countries, where english is spoken. (It looks like english as taught
> in a classroom in Seoul, by a native Korean)
>
> It is all in a grand tradition, started by the Italians.
>
>
And your English is perfect? (Or anyone else here). We all make
mistakes, or are just plain lazy. Whilst I understand that,
commercially, it doesn't reflect well on the company, I wouldn't
actually say that it shows laziness or contempt...
Mind you, a friend of mine (translator), cannot believe the terrible
translations he sees in product packaging etc, when the cost of good
translation isn't that much these days. Maybe you should edit their
site and return it to them with an invoice?
For that matter, is it UK or US English that you believe to be
correct, and as Will notes, our Korean is probably no better :)
--
Regards, Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 01:39:54
From: Ritske Rensma
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER........hAS ANYONE BOUGHT ONE.VIEWS PLEASE
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daveb wrote:
> It would be nice it they translated their site -- and manual into
> ACTUAL ENGLISH.
>
They recently translated the site in english (don't know about the
mantual, though, although from what I've read I get the impression
that's in English as well at this point).
Gene Cafe website in English: http://tinyurl.com/z4s9m
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Date: 27 Jun 2006 23:22:03
From: daveb
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER........hAS ANYONE BOUGHT ONE.VIEWS PLEASE
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It would be nice it they translated their site -- and manual into
ACTUAL ENGLISH.
Sorry to nitpick, but it would show some respect for part of its
(potential) customer base.
Dave
martyminor11@yahoo.com wrote:
> dfk_41 wrote:
> >
>
> I have not bought one to review, however many people I know have one
> and the consensus is they enjoy it. A couple of faults: Slow cooldown
> time, and the chaff "scraper/collector" mechanism binds up a bit with
> use.
>
> Personally I think its a bit pricey, and I do not agree with their
> claim that it is a commercial coffee roaster (as per their site at
> www.genecafe.com).
>
> I would like to see their design applied towards a much larger
> commercial model, not one that only roasts up to 300 grams.
>
> Marty
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 11:09:41
From: daveb
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER...More horrible english
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Interesting, sir.
any impressions around the Swissmar (successor to the alpenrost?)
dave
Ritske Rensma wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Sorry, misunderstood you... :) Yeah, their English is a little rusty.
> It looks as if whoever did the job might have used a translation
> program or something.
>
> Anyway, the roaster's supposed to be quite good, if you read the
> reviews - I guess that's what matters most. This review on
> Coffeesnobs.com.au give quite a good impression of the machine, I would
> think:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/qatd3
>
> Loads of pictures of the innards of the machine. If I remember
> correctly, the only thing they didn't like about it is the cool down
> cycle, which is rather long. I guess you could always stop the roast
> earlier and cool the beans in a coliander or something.
>
>
> Ritske
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 15:00:00
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER...More horrible english
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"daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1151518181.293046.21030@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Interesting, sir.
>
> any impressions around the Swissmar (successor to the alpenrost?)
>
> dave
>
Hi Dave, I've been using the the old Alpenrost version 1.0 since mid
2001, replaced with version 1.1 in mid May 2002. I also have had the new
Bravi since mid Nov 2005. It's a MUCH better roaster than the old
Alpenrost.
Here's some info:
http://www.greenbeanery.ca/bean/documents/2005_braviBrochure.pdf
Cheers,
Craig.
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 10:24:11
From: Ritske Rensma
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER...More horrible english
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Dave,
Sorry, misunderstood you... :) Yeah, their English is a little rusty.
It looks as if whoever did the job might have used a translation
program or something.
Anyway, the roaster's supposed to be quite good, if you read the
reviews - I guess that's what matters most. This review on
Coffeesnobs.com.au give quite a good impression of the machine, I would
think:
http://tinyurl.com/qatd3
Loads of pictures of the innards of the machine. If I remember
correctly, the only thing they didn't like about it is the cool down
cycle, which is rather long. I guess you could always stop the roast
earlier and cool the beans in a coliander or something.
Ritske
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 10:21:48
From: Ritske Rensma
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER...More horrible english
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Dave,
Sorry, misunderstood you... :) Yeah, their English is a little rusty.
It looks as if whoever did the job might have used a translation
program or something.
Anyway, the roaster's supposed to be quite good, if you read the
reviews - I guess that's what matters most. This review on
Coffeesnobs.com.au give quite a good impression of the machine, I would
think:
http://tinyurl.com/qatd3
Loads of pictures of the innards of the machine, plus some roasting
curves and the like.
Ritske
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 05:17:47
From: daveb
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER...More horrible english
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That is good news! I wish I'd bought the demo at SCAA, for $240.00
damn.
dave "th76seghm4" b
Craig Andrews wrote:
> "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151518181.293046.21030@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > Interesting, sir.
> >
> > any impressions around the Swissmar (successor to the alpenrost?)
> >
> > dave
> >
>
>
> Hi Dave, I've been using the the old Alpenrost version 1.0 since mid
> 2001, replaced with version 1.1 in mid May 2002. I also have had the new
> Bravi since mid Nov 2005. It's a MUCH better roaster than the old
> Alpenrost.
>
> Here's some info:
> http://www.greenbeanery.ca/bean/documents/2005_braviBrochure.pdf
> Cheers,
> Craig.
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 05:16:22
From: daveb
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER... english
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Danny, they are by no means alone --take the Italians [please] who have
been shipping abysmal manuals for decades with their machines. There
are thousands of web sites just like this.
It would cost a few hundred dollars to have the site translated into
something resembling english -- Hell, I'll do it for that! Why don't
they do that? = they don't care.
and regarding laziness? If YOU were trying to peddle a product to
english speakers, why NOT do it right? don't you want all of it to
reflect WELL on your company and product?
And comparing out Korean with their English is just absurd. We aren't
selling to them, but they to us. -- Insert comments here from Koreans
who hate bad Korean on sites from english speaking companies --
[Lastly UK english is more correct -- I'm from Canada.]
Danny wrote:
> daveb wrote:
> > No, I mean ENGLISH that makes sense and is something like that spoken
> > here in the US and elsewhere.
> >
> > You know, a web site written with decent grammar, spelling, syntax and
> > the like.
> >
> > It shows laziness and a contempt for North America, Britain and other
> > countries, where english is spoken. (It looks like english as taught
> > in a classroom in Seoul, by a native Korean)
> >
> > It is all in a grand tradition, started by the Italians.
> >
> >
>
> And your English is perfect? (Or anyone else here). We all make
> mistakes, or are just plain lazy. Whilst I understand that,
> commercially, it doesn't reflect well on the company, I wouldn't
> actually say that it shows laziness or contempt...
>
> Mind you, a friend of mine (translator), cannot believe the terrible
> translations he sees in product packaging etc, when the cost of good
> translation isn't that much these days. Maybe you should edit their
> site and return it to them with an invoice?
>
> For that matter, is it UK or US English that you believe to be
> correct, and as Will notes, our Korean is probably no better :)
>
>
> --
> Regards, Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
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Date: 01 Jul 2006 16:43:35
From: J. Clarke
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER... english
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daveb wrote:
> Danny, they are by no means alone --take the Italians [please] who have
> been shipping abysmal manuals for decades with their machines. There
> are thousands of web sites just like this.
>
> It would cost a few hundred dollars to have the site translated into
> something resembling english -- Hell, I'll do it for that! Why don't
> they do that? = they don't care.
>
> and regarding laziness? If YOU were trying to peddle a product to
> english speakers, why NOT do it right? don't you want all of it to
> reflect WELL on your company and product?
>
> And comparing out Korean with their English is just absurd. We aren't
> selling to them, but they to us. -- Insert comments here from Koreans
> who hate bad Korean on sites from english speaking companies --
>
> [Lastly UK english is more correct -- I'm from Canada.]
But which _French_ is more correct? :)
> Danny wrote:
>> daveb wrote:
>> > No, I mean ENGLISH that makes sense and is something like that spoken
>> > here in the US and elsewhere.
>> >
>> > You know, a web site written with decent grammar, spelling, syntax and
>> > the like.
>> >
>> > It shows laziness and a contempt for North America, Britain and other
>> > countries, where english is spoken. (It looks like english as taught
>> > in a classroom in Seoul, by a native Korean)
>> >
>> > It is all in a grand tradition, started by the Italians.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> And your English is perfect? (Or anyone else here). We all make
>> mistakes, or are just plain lazy. Whilst I understand that,
>> commercially, it doesn't reflect well on the company, I wouldn't
>> actually say that it shows laziness or contempt...
>>
>> Mind you, a friend of mine (translator), cannot believe the terrible
>> translations he sees in product packaging etc, when the cost of good
>> translation isn't that much these days. Maybe you should edit their
>> site and return it to them with an invoice?
>>
>> For that matter, is it UK or US English that you believe to be
>> correct, and as Will notes, our Korean is probably no better :)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Danny
>>
>> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
>> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 04:50:45
From: wascher@gmail.com
Subject: Re: GENE CAFE ROASTER........hAS ANYONE BOUGHT ONE.VIEWS PLEASE
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There are a couple of folks on sweetmaria's list that have one. I
haven't paid much attention, but they seem happy with it.You might ask
there.
dfk_41 wrote:
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