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Date: 23 Jun 2006 19:54:32
From: Cordovero
Subject: Gaggia Baby won't prime: advice sought
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Nobody posted on coffeegeek, so I'd appreciate ANY suggestions.
I have stored in my hot garage a Gaggia Baby. It was bought new, lovingly
maintained (RO water only), and used for 1 year old. It went in the garage
when I got the Giotto.
I got out the Baby (with my Giotto temporarily disassembled) and it won't
prime at all (steam wand valve open, or closed, doesn't matter). No suction
on the water tube. Even when I try to blow water up the tube, it won't go
at all. Everything looks pristine inside. The pump makes lots of noise when
I engage it.
Any ideas of what I could try?
C
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Date: 23 Jun 2006 15:37:13
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Gaggia Baby won't prime: advice sought
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Looking at a parts unit in the shop . . . .
if it is of fairly recent manufacture, the last 15 years or so, there
is a single white -- kinda stiff -- teflon hose of about 3" length that
connects to the OPV on the bottom of the boiler. that is the hose to
check -- loosen remove the fitting at the elbow coming out of the
pump, then try the pump. the teflon line is the 'high' side of the
pump.
d
Cordovero wrote:
> "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151093232.303079.70200@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Cordo:
> >
> > did you take off the output tube? pump then?
> >
> > dave
>
> Output tube on the pump? Or output tube somewhere else?
>
> By the way, Dave, am I right that the Baby only has one plastic tube (the
> intake tube on the left) and that the pressure relief tube is just a nub
> over on the right (recesssed into the body) which aims/drips into the water
> reservoir?
>
> C
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Date: 24 Jun 2006 03:33:53
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia Baby won't prime: advice sought
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Thanks, Dave. I took off that hose, and yeah, the pump still won't pump, so
it's gotta' be the pump, I suppose.
Can an Ulka pump be broken, even if it makes the loud pump noise? Then
what's making the noise? My previous experience of pumps was that they
either worked or they were dead.
C
"daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1151102233.119255.35850@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Looking at a parts unit in the shop . . . .
>
> if it is of fairly recent manufacture, the last 15 years or so, there
> is a single white -- kinda stiff -- teflon hose of about 3" length that
> connects to the OPV on the bottom of the boiler. that is the hose to
> check -- loosen remove the fitting at the elbow coming out of the
> pump, then try the pump. the teflon line is the 'high' side of the
> pump.
>
> d
> Cordovero wrote:
>> "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1151093232.303079.70200@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > Cordo:
>> >
>> > did you take off the output tube? pump then?
>> >
>> > dave
>>
>> Output tube on the pump? Or output tube somewhere else?
>>
>> By the way, Dave, am I right that the Baby only has one plastic tube (the
>> intake tube on the left) and that the pressure relief tube is just a nub
>> over on the right (recesssed into the body) which aims/drips into the
>> water
>> reservoir?
>>
>> C
>
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Date: 23 Jun 2006 13:07:12
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Gaggia Baby won't prime: advice sought
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Cordo:
did you take off the output tube? pump then?
dave
Saeco / Gaggia service SE
Cordovero wrote:
> Nobody posted on coffeegeek, so I'd appreciate ANY suggestions.
>
> I have stored in my hot garage a Gaggia Baby. It was bought new, lovingly
> maintained (RO water only), and used for 1 year old. It went in the garage
> when I got the Giotto.
>
> I got out the Baby (with my Giotto temporarily disassembled) and it won't
> prime at all (steam wand valve open, or closed, doesn't matter). No suction
> on the water tube. Even when I try to blow water up the tube, it won't go
> at all. Everything looks pristine inside. The pump makes lots of noise when
> I engage it.
>
> Any ideas of what I could try?
>
> C
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Date: 23 Jun 2006 21:25:14
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia Baby won't prime: advice sought
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"daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1151093232.303079.70200@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Cordo:
>
> did you take off the output tube? pump then?
>
> dave
Output tube on the pump? Or output tube somewhere else?
By the way, Dave, am I right that the Baby only has one plastic tube (the
intake tube on the left) and that the pressure relief tube is just a nub
over on the right (recesssed into the body) which aims/drips into the water
reservoir?
C
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 23:51:11
From: pig
Subject: Re: Gaggia Baby won't prime: advice sought
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fuckin brilliant... i went without coffee for a whole 8 hours and iv just
had a double cappucino, AWWWW, its fucking nice. headache instantly gone
into remission!! LOVE and TOTAL respect for COFFEE!
"Cordovero" <cordoveroxxxremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote in
news:__Ymg.1369$ii.961@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
> "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151093232.303079.70200@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Cordo:
>>
>> did you take off the output tube? pump then?
>>
>> dave
>
> Output tube on the pump? Or output tube somewhere else?
>
> By the way, Dave, am I right that the Baby only has one plastic tube
> (the intake tube on the left) and that the pressure relief tube is
> just a nub over on the right (recesssed into the body) which
> aims/drips into the water reservoir?
>
> C
>
>
>
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 19:01:18
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia Baby won't prime: advice sought
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Glad you got your fix, but not following how it followed from my post.
C
"pig" <whatsgoingdownclown@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:Xns9814F2A583F13whatsgoingdownclown@203.26.24.228...
> fuckin brilliant... i went without coffee for a whole 8 hours and iv just
> had a double cappucino, AWWWW, its fucking nice. headache instantly gone
> into remission!! LOVE and TOTAL respect for COFFEE!
>
>
> "Cordovero" <cordoveroxxxremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote in
> news:__Ymg.1369$ii.961@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
>>
>> "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1151093232.303079.70200@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>> Cordo:
>>>
>>> did you take off the output tube? pump then?
>>>
>>> dave
>>
>> Output tube on the pump? Or output tube somewhere else?
>>
>> By the way, Dave, am I right that the Baby only has one plastic tube
>> (the intake tube on the left) and that the pressure relief tube is
>> just a nub over on the right (recesssed into the body) which
>> aims/drips into the water reservoir?
>>
>> C
>>
>>
>>
>
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Date: 24 Jun 2006 09:38:33
From: wascher@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Gaggia Baby won't prime: advice sought
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It depends on what's broken.
If the problem is electrical, then the motor isn't running & it is very
quiet.
If the problem is mechanical, such as a leak between the input & output
side of the pump, then the motor will still be running noisily but it
won't be able to pump.
Cordovero wrote:
> Thanks, Dave. I took off that hose, and yeah, the pump still won't pump, so
> it's gotta' be the pump, I suppose.
>
> Can an Ulka pump be broken, even if it makes the loud pump noise? Then
> what's making the noise? My previous experience of pumps was that they
> either worked or they were dead.
>
> C
>
> "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151102233.119255.35850@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > Looking at a parts unit in the shop . . . .
> >
> > if it is of fairly recent manufacture, the last 15 years or so, there
> > is a single white -- kinda stiff -- teflon hose of about 3" length that
> > connects to the OPV on the bottom of the boiler. that is the hose to
> > check -- loosen remove the fitting at the elbow coming out of the
> > pump, then try the pump. the teflon line is the 'high' side of the
> > pump.
> >
> > d
> > Cordovero wrote:
> >> "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1151093232.303079.70200@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Cordo:
> >> >
> >> > did you take off the output tube? pump then?
> >> >
> >> > dave
> >>
> >> Output tube on the pump? Or output tube somewhere else?
> >>
> >> By the way, Dave, am I right that the Baby only has one plastic tube (the
> >> intake tube on the left) and that the pressure relief tube is just a nub
> >> over on the right (recesssed into the body) which aims/drips into the
> >> water
> >> reservoir?
> >>
> >> C
> >
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Date: 24 Jun 2006 07:05:32
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Gaggia Baby won't prime: advice sought
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Well the ones I get here -- the pumps if they are bad are already bad,
if that make sense.
But I wore out a pump on a personal Gaggia classic in the mid 90's
and it faded rapidly from a good shot to a few days later -- dead --
but loud!!
And in MY experience an Ulka with the output disconnected, or working
into a normal load will quickly (3 or 4 seconds) and rapidly prime
itself, sucking in first, air -- loud -- then water -- much quieter .
. . .
d
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Cordovero wrote:
> Thanks, Dave. I took off that hose, and yeah, the pump still won't pump, so
> it's gotta' be the pump, I suppose.
>
> Can an Ulka pump be broken, even if it makes the loud pump noise? Then
> what's making the noise? My previous experience of pumps was that they
> either worked or they were dead.
>
> C
>
> "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151102233.119255.35850@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > Looking at a parts unit in the shop . . . .
> >
> > if it is of fairly recent manufacture, the last 15 years or so, there
> > is a single white -- kinda stiff -- teflon hose of about 3" length that
> > connects to the OPV on the bottom of the boiler. that is the hose to
> > check -- loosen remove the fitting at the elbow coming out of the
> > pump, then try the pump. the teflon line is the 'high' side of the
> > pump.
> >
> > d
> > Cordovero wrote:
> >> "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1151093232.303079.70200@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Cordo:
> >> >
> >> > did you take off the output tube? pump then?
> >> >
> >> > dave
> >>
> >> Output tube on the pump? Or output tube somewhere else?
> >>
> >> By the way, Dave, am I right that the Baby only has one plastic tube (the
> >> intake tube on the left) and that the pressure relief tube is just a nub
> >> over on the right (recesssed into the body) which aims/drips into the
> >> water
> >> reservoir?
> >>
> >> C
> >
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