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Date: 16 Jul 2006 20:46:34
From: coffee dude
Subject: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
Does it taste good in coffee?
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Date: 16 Jul 2006 20:56:58
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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I've been using soy on and off in coffee drinks for years.
My personal opinion is that I can't stand it in espresso based drinks, but
for drip or press pot coffee, I do in fact enjoy Vitasoy Extra Creamy. I
tried about a dozen others but didn't like them.
For what it's worth, there are better ways of getting soy than soy milk, and
I'm a vegetarian. For one thing, the tastier soy milks have more than soy
and water, they have carageenan (which, while derived from seaweed, has been
linked to various health problems even by mainstream guys like Andrew Weil)
and sugar and stuff. Still, it's worth trying.
C
"coffee dude" <coffee0@s.com > wrote in message
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>I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
> Does it taste good in coffee?
>
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Date: 17 Jul 2006 01:54:26
From: Alan
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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"coffee dude" <coffee0@s.com > wrote in message
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>I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
> Does it taste good in coffee?
Why don't you just muster up a little courage, go out and buy some, and just
try it yourself?
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Date: 17 Jul 2006 01:30:18
From: The Other Funk
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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Finding the keyboard operational
coffee dude entered:
> I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
> Does it taste good in coffee?
I have 4 or 5 Vegan regulars and a few more lactose intolorant customers who
use soy milk. Both in coffee and espresso drinks. I did have a latte with
soy and all I can say it was different but not bad. It was sweeter then
milk.
BTW. Soy won't foam worth a damn.
Bob
--
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Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
www.moondoggiecoffee.com
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Date: 17 Jul 2006 14:59:26
From: Brent
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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>
>> I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
>> Does it taste good in coffee?
>
> I have 4 or 5 Vegan regulars and a few more lactose intolorant customers
> who use soy milk. Both in coffee and espresso drinks. I did have a latte
> with soy and all I can say it was different but not bad. It was sweeter
> then milk.
> BTW. Soy won't foam worth a damn.
Try a different soy, or try taking it hotter than milk...
:)
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Date: 17 Jul 2006 19:42:34
From: The Other Funk
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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Finding the keyboard operational
Brent entered:
>>> I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
>>> Does it taste good in coffee?
>>
>> I have 4 or 5 Vegan regulars and a few more lactose intolorant
>> customers who use soy milk. Both in coffee and espresso drinks. I
>> did have a latte with soy and all I can say it was different but not
>> bad. It was sweeter then milk.
>> BTW. Soy won't foam worth a damn.
>
> Try a different soy, or try taking it hotter than milk...
>
> :)
I've got to admit that I didn't try making it hotter. I tryed to treat it
like milk. As far as trying a different soy, Silk brand is the only one
carried by the local wholesaler and I am not paying full retail for a small
percentage of my customers.
Bob
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Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
www.moondoggiecoffee.com
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Date: 18 Jul 2006 09:05:21
From: Brent
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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>>> BTW. Soy won't foam worth a damn.
>>
>> Try a different soy, or try taking it hotter than milk...
>>
>> :)
>
> I've got to admit that I didn't try making it hotter. I tryed to treat it
> like milk. As far as trying a different soy, Silk brand is the only one
> carried by the local wholesaler and I am not paying full retail for a
> small percentage of my customers.
> Bob
I had a customer who was into soy, he just said as I was fumbling along "I
don't know how to steam it, but I know if you go for it until it looks
right, and ignore the temperature it works fine"
it would appear soy doesn't burn like milk until much hotter, in the
meantime you can achieve reasonable results - that sometimes even hold up
until after it has been served so the customer can collapse the foam with
sugar all by themselves :)
Brent
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Date: 17 Jul 2006 13:25:56
From: Brent
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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That is a matter of opinion...
>I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
> Does it taste good in coffee?
>
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Date: 17 Jul 2006 07:50:21
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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Omniryx@gmail.com wrote:
> Randy G. wrote:
> > It is somewhat of an acquired taste as your brain says "milk" but your
> > palate says otherwise. Some taste better than others.
>
> Randy, you are so right. I'm a carnivore but many years ago an
> Adventist friend counseled me to avoid "meat-like" things in favor of
> unabashed vegetarian. I've found that a reliable guide. Soy "milk" is
> atrocious because you expect it to taste like real moo juice. Soy
> "beverage" is something you can learn to like. But you'll never
> mistake it for authentic udder-ade.
Soy milk is a no-go for me, but almond milk is pleasant on occasion.
I'd recommend it highly - and I'm highly carnivorous. Knock that cow
on the head and wave that steak over the flames a few times please.
<G >
Carmen
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Date: 17 Jul 2006 07:46:30
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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coffee dude wrote:
> I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
> Does it taste good in coffee?
I'd imagine if soy milk tastes good to you normally it'd be worth a
shot in your coffee. If you dislike soy milk on its own there's no
sense thinking it'll improve in coffee. Many things made from soy
(can't remember how many ways I've tried tofu or how many different soy
milk brands I've tried) have an unpleasant metallic tinge high up on
the palate to my perception.
Carmen
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Date: 17 Jul 2006 07:39:13
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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Randy G. wrote:
> It is somewhat of an acquired taste as your brain says "milk" but your
> palate says otherwise. Some taste better than others.
Randy, you are so right. I'm a carnivore but many years ago an
Adventist friend counseled me to avoid "meat-like" things in favor of
unabashed vegetarian. I've found that a reliable guide. Soy "milk" is
atrocious because you expect it to taste like real moo juice. Soy
"beverage" is something you can learn to like. But you'll never
mistake it for authentic udder-ade.
W
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Date: 17 Jul 2006 10:18:12
From: notbob
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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On 2006-07-17, Omniryx@gmail.com <Omniryx@gmail.com > wrote:
> atrocious because you expect it to taste like real moo juice. Soy
> "beverage" is something you can learn to like. But you'll never
> mistake it for authentic udder-ade.
Actually, it's the soy products available to most of us that's
"atrocious". Those processed, flavored, irridated offerings on the
supermarket shelf are not good examples. If one is fortunate enough
to live near an Asian community, the chances are good for running
across fresh chilled soy milk, an very tasty drink. It still don't
froth worth a damn, though.
nb
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Date: 17 Jul 2006 03:24:15
From: daveb
Subject: Re: try soy milk in coffee
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now there's a good idea!
or you can order some at:
Starbucks!! [sorry, not really promoting Starbucks heheh!]
Alan wrote:
> "coffee dude" <coffee0@s.com> wrote in message
> news:e9emkq$nc7$1@nntp.aioe.org...
> >I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
> > Does it taste good in coffee?
>
> Why don't you just muster up a little courage, go out and buy some, and just
> try it yourself?
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Date: 16 Jul 2006 21:38:43
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:46:34 -0400, "coffee dude" <coffee0@s.com >
wrote:
>I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
>Does it taste good in coffee?
>
It is somewhat of an acquired taste as your brain says "milk" but your
palate says otherwise. Some taste better than others. I would
recommend using vanilla Silk brand as a start. Pacific Foods makes a
soymilk specifically for stretching for coffee-based drinks, but it s
not available on a retail level. other than that one, the better
soymilks can be stretched somewhat but they immediately begin
separating once the steaming is finished.
Randy "soyboy" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 18 Jul 2006 06:15:20
From:
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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I never steam soy past 140F. I've heard soy usual starts "scalding"
around 135F, so if dumped into coffee that is around 190+ you might
find it curdles. I mostly use my ear anymore as a barista for
milk/soy. I cut the steam just after it starts to quiet. Steaming a
larger amount can give the proteins time to develop the foam. Some of
the best foam I've made has been with soy. I do enjoy milk though. Ya
ya ya, we are the only species to continue drinking it after being
weened, but we are also the only species to have cookies.
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Date: 18 Jul 2006 14:27:18
From: Andy Schecter
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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Ryan.McCants@gmail.com wrote:
> I do enjoy milk though. Ya
> ya ya, we are the only species to continue drinking it after being
> weened, but we are also the only species to have cookies.
The only species to drink coffee, too.
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Date: 18 Jul 2006 09:23:13
From: St. John Smythe
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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Ryan.McCants@gmail.com wrote:
> we are the only species to continue drinking it after being
> weened, but we are also the only species to have cookies.
Excellent!
--
St. John
"Hey! Who took the cork off my lunch??!"
-W. C. Fields
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Date: 18 Jul 2006 14:17:12
From:
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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coffee dude wrote:
> I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
> Does it taste good in coffee?
In so many words or less, it is crap. Gotta be honest.
Leaves a beany flavor (I don't care how "silky smooth and creamy" the
ads make some out to be).
Additionally, there are really no health benefits over real cream or
milk. They load up the soy with sugar and other fat substitutes. It
is junk. Expensive junk at that.
Marty
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 17:18:28
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: Soy? Eat it if you like it folks
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Other than being lower in bad fats the other touted bennies were
overblown:
A review of 22 studies was done and appeared in the American Heart
Association journal Circulation:
http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/113/7/1034
Enjoy.
Carmen
coffee dude wrote:
> I usually use milk, but I've been reading about the benefits of soy.
> Does it taste good in coffee?
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 03:40:40
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Soy? Eat it if you like it folks
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On 19 Jul 2006 17:18:28 -0700, "Carmen" <carmensrt@gmail.com > wrote:
>A review of 22 studies was done and appeared in the American Heart
>Association journal Circulation:
>http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/113/7/1034
>
>Enjoy.
>
>Carmen
One may want to read "The China Study" which, aside from being the
only study of it's kind in history, points out some very interesting
associations in the AHA.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1932100660/sr=8-1/qid=1153366355/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8690258-8847308?ie=UTF8
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 15:36:08
From: Sharkman BMW
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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So, I tried SILK Vanilla soy milk in my coffee....
um, not my fav.
I enjoy the soy milk by itself.... but I think I will stick to regular for
the coffee.
I will make a few more attempts, but I doubt that I will give up the flavour
of my coffee for the goodness of soy!
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 14:13:42
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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I still think there are other ways to get soy in your diet. Forgive some
off-topic suggestions, but I've been eating a lot of soy since I spent two
years living on Java after college.
THE RULE: Throw money at the problem at first. Soy is one of those things
that throwing money at can help. I hate most frozen soy products. I tried
a bunch and thought they wouldn't work for me. But it wasn't until a friend
said, "Is it worth it to you to spend $100 at the grocery store to buy 1 of
every frozen soy product and 1 of every soy milk to determine if there's one
you actually like?" I answered Yes. So I went and did it, and I threw most
of them out after a taste. But, it turned out that I loved:
1. (Frozen) Boca (Fake) Chicken Patties (not the "Spicy" ones). Microwave
for 1 minute. Delicious with mustard or salsa, or cut up on a salad with
vinagrette or Caesars.
2. Amy's (frozen) Tofu-Vegetable Lasagne. It's spicy and yummy. Amy's in
general does VERY well with soy. I like other one's too.
3. Vitasoy Extra Creamy Soymilk. I've stopped using this in coffee (since I
use nonfat milk for my cappas) but I do like putting it in a blender with
one banana and tablespoon of yogurt for a really great refreshing instant
protein shake, especially in hot weather. Drink quickly before it
separates!
4. Whole Foods' Sesame Tofu (in the deli section)
These really became a staple of my diet.
Second, I threw money at my local Asian restaurants.
Go to all of your local/favorite Chinese and Thai restaurants. Order at
least 3 tofu dishes at each place. If possible, order dishes which fry the
tofu, not just put the gelatinous tofu in. Yes, deep fry isn't super good
for you, but working the soy into your diet this way rather than giving up
and getting meat is, overall, a positive change in fat intake. I guarantee
that some of the places, or even just one, will really know how to do tofu
right. You might be in the habit of always getting your favorite Hunan Beef
or Shrimp Pad Thai, but if you find a delicious "Orange Peel Tofu" or "Tofu
&Spinach in Peanut Sauce", you might just fall in love. Get each of those
two dishes once a week, and you've got a good amount of soy in your diet
right there. Or go to PF Changs or Pick up Stix and get the Tofu Lettuce
Wraps. Or Pei Wei and try the Honey Seared with Tofu and Vegetables or
Edamame appetizer -- or whatever your favorite dish is but made with Tofu .
Again, it's about finding a dish you really love. Believe me, it's not easy
to cook tofu or tempe at home. Let the experts do it for you!
Well, I have a lot more to suggest, but these really are the highlights.
Good luck!
Cordo
"Sharkman BMW" <shark@s.com > wrote in message
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> So, I tried SILK Vanilla soy milk in my coffee....
> um, not my fav.
>
> I enjoy the soy milk by itself.... but I think I will stick to regular for
> the coffee.
>
> I will make a few more attempts, but I doubt that I will give up the
> flavour of my coffee for the goodness of soy!
>
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 21:38:18
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:13:42 -0700, "Cordo"
<cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com > wrote:
>Let the experts do it for you!
I noticed your location from the headers; have you been to Millennium
in the City yet?
OMG!!!
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 15:34:36
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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I'm actually in Vegas now, though I lived in the Bay Area for years.
I tried a few vegetarian restaurants in the City and liked them. Of course
the famous "Greens" restaurant is pretty darn good, and I actually use their
cookbook often. One of the staple dishes of my life is their White Bean
soup. It takes about 20 minutes to make. Sautee a whole bunch of fresh
sage with onion and olive oil. Then add CANS of diced tomatoes and of white
beans (including the starchy liquid. Pour in some carton vegetable stock,
and it's ready.
Throw some fresh Italian parsely in the food processor along with some
garlic and almonds and parmesan, grind, and put on top of the soup when
served.
Amazing.
C
"Steve" <not@use.net > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:13:42 -0700, "Cordo"
> <cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Let the experts do it for you!
>
> I noticed your location from the headers; have you been to Millennium
> in the City yet?
> OMG!!!
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 20:27:01
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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Quick hints for that recipe:
1. Get the canned diced tomatoes that have herbs (basil, oregano, and
garlic) in them already.
2. When you sautee that whole bunch of fresh sage, throw in some bay leaves
and, if they're not already in the canned tomatoes, then garlic, oregano,
and basil, too.
:)
C
"Cordo" <cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com > wrote in message
news:e9mc1s$lb3$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
> I'm actually in Vegas now, though I lived in the Bay Area for years.
>
> I tried a few vegetarian restaurants in the City and liked them. Of
> course the famous "Greens" restaurant is pretty darn good, and I actually
> use their cookbook often. One of the staple dishes of my life is their
> White Bean soup. It takes about 20 minutes to make. Sautee a whole bunch
> of fresh sage with onion and olive oil. Then add CANS of diced tomatoes
> and of white beans (including the starchy liquid. Pour in some carton
> vegetable stock, and it's ready.
>
> Throw some fresh Italian parsely in the food processor along with some
> garlic and almonds and parmesan, grind, and put on top of the soup when
> served.
>
> Amazing.
>
>
> C
>
> "Steve" <not@use.net> wrote in message
> news:vf9tb2piv96t25pmbamnlofn91ice7rp5h@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:13:42 -0700, "Cordo"
>> <cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Let the experts do it for you!
>>
>> I noticed your location from the headers; have you been to Millennium
>> in the City yet?
>> OMG!!!
>
>
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 22:58:10
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:34:36 -0700, "Cordo"
<cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com > wrote:
>Amazing.
Yum!
Sounds like it, thanks.
Now I know what to make for dinner.
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 16:36:03
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:34:36 -0700, "Cordo"
<cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com > wrote:
>Throw some fresh Italian parsely in the food processor along with some
>garlic and almonds and parmesan, grind, and put on top of the soup when
>served.
>
>Amazing.
We made this last night with a slight variation. I didn't have any
almonds in the house except for Tamari smoked, so I made a regular
"pesto" substituting basil for the Italian parsley and pine nuts for
the almonds.
Delicious, and only 20 minutes or so to plate. Thanks!
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 12:29:45
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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Sounds great!
Actually, I used tamari almonds once, and it was yummy.
I just use almonds because they're cheaper than pine nuts, but, of course,
pine nuts are the standard for pesto. Also, basil is usually used in pesto,
but I'm grateful to the Greens cookbook for suggesting Italian parsley in
this pesto for on top of the soup. It never would have occured to me, and
it's a delicious, different kind of pesto. I always make extra and we smear
it on french bread for days afterward as a treat. It's nice right for
pasta, though!
For what it's worth, my girlfriend and I have suddenly gotten into the
"unusual" grains, after reading about them. As an experiment we expected to
fail, we made Quinoa in our rice cooker, and it came out AMAZING! It's like
a fluffy, almost cotton-candy-consistency rice-like thing, and I prefer it
to rice! It's very high in protein etc.
C
"Steve" <not@use.net > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:34:36 -0700, "Cordo"
> <cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Throw some fresh Italian parsely in the food processor along with some
>>garlic and almonds and parmesan, grind, and put on top of the soup when
>>served.
>>
>>Amazing.
>
> We made this last night with a slight variation. I didn't have any
> almonds in the house except for Tamari smoked, so I made a regular
> "pesto" substituting basil for the Italian parsley and pine nuts for
> the almonds.
> Delicious, and only 20 minutes or so to plate. Thanks!
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 16:00:13
From: Steve Ackman
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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In <e9olj9$phq$1@news.Stanford.EDU >, on Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:29:45 -0700,
Cordo wrote:
> For what it's worth, my girlfriend and I have suddenly gotten into the
> "unusual" grains, after reading about them. As an experiment we expected to
> fail, we made Quinoa in our rice cooker, and it came out AMAZING! It's like
> a fluffy, almost cotton-candy-consistency rice-like thing, and I prefer it
> to rice! It's very high in protein etc.
Many years ago I used to put quinoa (keen-wa for those
who've never heard it) in one of my whole-grain breads.
Never did get around to trying it as breakfast cereal
or "rice." We'll have to give that a go next time we
find some.
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 16:53:43
From: St. John Smythe
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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Steve Ackman wrote:
> Many years ago I used to put quinoa (keen-wa for those
> who've never heard it) in one of my whole-grain breads.
> Never did get around to trying it as breakfast cereal
> or "rice." We'll have to give that a go next time we
> find some.
I still want to try some quatrotriticale...
--
St. John
...but it's probably going to be too much tribble.
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Date: 21 Jul 2006 00:29:49
From: Mike Garner
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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In article <e9oqgn$5sk$6@n4vu2.n4vu.com >, sinjen@n4vu.com says...
> I still want to try some quatrotriticale...
>
Damn tribbles ate all of it...
Mike
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Date: 22 Jul 2006 12:22:51
From: J. Clarke
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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Mike Garner wrote:
> In article <e9oqgn$5sk$6@n4vu2.n4vu.com>, sinjen@n4vu.com says...
>> I still want to try some quatrotriticale...
>>
>
> Damn tribbles ate all of it...
Resulting, ultimately, in one of the most distressing episodes in the
history of the Klingon Empire.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 19:49:19
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:29:45 -0700, "Cordo"
<cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com > wrote:
>As an experiment we expected to
>fail, we made Quinoa in our rice cooker, and it came out AMAZING! It's like
>a fluffy, almost cotton-candy-consistency rice-like thing, and I prefer it
>to rice! It's very high in protein etc.
One of our favorites. IIRC, only quinoa and soy are complete proteins
for us vegheads.
Smart guys, those Incas...well except for that Conquistador thing :-)
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 17:32:04
From: Sharkman BMW
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried soy milk in coffee??
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thanks for that.
I have started getting soy from mixed nuts including soy seeds, cereals with
soy and using soy milk.
Tofu is not the greatest, but I can tolerate it if done right. I will have
to try some dishes and see what suits me best.
I will look for the things you mentioned.
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 08:36:28
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: Soy? Eat it if you like it folks
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Steve wrote:
> On 19 Jul 2006 17:18:28 -0700, "Carmen" <carmensrt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >A review of 22 studies was done and appeared in the American Heart
> >Association journal Circulation:
> >http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/113/7/1034
> >
> >Enjoy.
> >
> >Carmen
>
> One may want to read "The China Study" which, aside from being the
> only study of it's kind in history, points out some very interesting
> associations in the AHA.
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1932100660/sr=8-1/qid=1153366355/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8690258-8847308?ie=UTF8
I'm familiar with the study. There are important flaws with that
study's methodology, flaws of enough import from a statistical
significance POV that they negate many of the conclusions. The study
needs to be re-done, with attention paid to things such as
socio-economic status, much closer attention paid to tobacco usage
amounts, environmental factors must be accounted for - it was quite
frustrating to have so many questions for which no information was
given. I understand that the Chinese government was probably not
terribly forthcoming, but in order to produce a valid study one must
collect all relevant data.
Carmen, stats geek on the side
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 16:19:34
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Soy? Eat it if you like it folks
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On 20 Jul 2006 08:36:28 -0700, "Carmen" <carmensrt@gmail.com > wrote:
>flaws of enough import from a statistical
>significance POV that they negate many of the conclusions.
Interesting.
I would like to discuss this with you out of this group.
Would you object to an email at the above address?
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