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Date: 29 Jun 2006 11:05:06
From: Rex
Subject: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
minutes. I asked a friend who works at a Starbucks if such stuff was in
the training. Not at all, he said. But he said, they do get to drink
unlimited amounts of coffee on the job, so I deduced their behavior was
due to too much caffeine.
Then I discovered Starbucks employees in France act the exact same way.
Coincidence? People from a different culture, not prone to
overconsumption of anything who are very skinny, acting in the same way
as though the same brain centers have been activated or enhanced. I
used to assume it was the caffeine, but no longer. People at other
coffee joints don't act like this, not in France, and not to the same
extent in the US.
So I believe the coffee is doped. It must be.
Are there any biology or chemistry students or researchers reading
this? Or anyone in a Master's of Public Health department? You ought to
test it for neurotransmitters. Or other known behavioral drugs. What an
excellent journal article you could write in the interest of public
health.
Put it in the liquid chromatograph or whatever and check it for ten
different things.
Publicize your findings!
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 21:49:37
From:
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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vernon wrote:
> <martyminor11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1151626159.439568.174010@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > vernon wrote:> >
> > Check out Vernon's history. Another Bible Thumper attempting to switch
> > their communion from wine to coffee.
> >
> > Marty
>
>
> Meaning your ignorance can only be covered by pointing to a non-relevant
> comment.
Yes, a coverup of the fact that your original post was about the most
retarded post I have possibly ever witnessed on this group. What the
hell does your "Roasted Coffee DUHHH" post have to do with my post
about Starbucks enhancing the caffeine in their coffee?
Stick to what you guys do best, and that is scream, yell, and thump
your Bible like the bunch of nutjobs you are.
Marty
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 07:05:05
From: vernon
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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<martyminor11@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1151642977.777172.204900@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> vernon wrote:
>> <martyminor11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1151626159.439568.174010@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > vernon wrote:> >
>> > Check out Vernon's history. Another Bible Thumper attempting to switch
>> > their communion from wine to coffee.
>> >
>> > Marty
>>
>>
>> Meaning your ignorance can only be covered by pointing to a non-relevant
>> comment.
>
> Yes, a coverup of the fact that your original post was about the most
> retarded post I have possibly ever witnessed on this group. What the
> hell does your "Roasted Coffee DUHHH" post have to do with my post
> about Starbucks enhancing the caffeine in their coffee?
>
Over your tiny head, bigot.
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 17:09:19
From:
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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vernon wrote:
> <martyminor11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1151615706.665792.261440@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Rex wrote:
> >> I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
> >> territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
> >> minutes. I asked a friend who works at a Starbucks if such stuff was in
> >> the training. Not at all, he said. But he said, they do get to drink
> >> unlimited amounts of coffee on the job, so I deduced their behavior was
cigarettes.
>
>
> GEE, what a genious. They ROAST their coffee? Gosh, I bet no other coffee
> distributor does that. The just say they do on the package or can.
>
>
> DDUUUUUHHHHH
>
> >
Check out Vernon's history. Another Bible Thumper attempting to switch
their communion from wine to coffee.
Marty
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 19:07:19
From: vernon
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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<martyminor11@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1151626159.439568.174010@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>
> vernon wrote:
>> <martyminor11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1151615706.665792.261440@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Rex wrote:
>> >> I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
>> >> territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
>> >> minutes. I asked a friend who works at a Starbucks if such stuff was
>> >> in
>> >> the training. Not at all, he said. But he said, they do get to drink
>> >> unlimited amounts of coffee on the job, so I deduced their behavior
>> >> was
> cigarettes.
>>
>>
>> GEE, what a genious. They ROAST their coffee? Gosh, I bet no other
>> coffee
>> distributor does that. The just say they do on the package or can.
>>
>>
>> DDUUUUUHHHHH
>>
>> >
>
> Check out Vernon's history. Another Bible Thumper attempting to switch
> their communion from wine to coffee.
>
> Marty
Meaning your ignorance can only be covered by pointing to a non-relevant
comment.
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 16:55:00
From: vernon
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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"Rex" <z444y@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly.
You used to think? Too bad you gave it up.
>They act rather
> territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
> minutes. I asked a friend who works at a Starbucks if such stuff was in
> the training. Not at all, he said. But he said, they do get to drink
> unlimited amounts of coffee on the job, so I deduced their behavior was
> due to too much caffeine.
>
> Then I discovered Starbucks employees in France act the exact same way.
No you didn't.
> Coincidence? People from a different culture, not prone to
> overconsumption of anything who are very skinny, acting in the same way
> as though the same brain centers have been activated or enhanced. I
> used to assume it was the caffeine, but no longer. People at other
> coffee joints don't act like this, not in France, and not to the same
> extent in the US.
>
> So I believe the coffee is doped. It must be.
>
> Are there any biology or chemistry students or researchers reading
> this? Or anyone in a Master's of Public Health department? You ought to
> test it for neurotransmitters. Or other known behavioral drugs. What an
> excellent journal article you could write in the interest of public
> health.
>
> Put it in the liquid chromatograph or whatever and check it for ten
> different things.
> Publicize your findings!
>
They get their coffee from the same place everyone does.
It is assumed that you, without a doubt, work for Seattle Coffee.
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 15:19:10
From: Erikstotle
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee...
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Starbucks is quite horrendous if you ask me. I don't understand why
anybody in a sane state of mind would like that crap. I would have to
agree with the dopes drinking starbucks theory as being correct.
Zox wrote:
> Robert Harmon wrote:
> > (...or, do dopes drink Starbucks coffee?)
> > Well Rex, you're almost right in your assumptions. But it's not that
> > Starbucks is doping their coffee, but rather that mostly dopes drink
> > Starbucks coffee!
>
> Actually their espresso is quite tasty. Their regular coffee is foul
> swill, not fit for degreasing a cheap lawnmower let alone drinking.
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 14:37:01
From: Zox
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee...
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Robert Harmon wrote:
> (...or, do dopes drink Starbucks coffee?)
> Well Rex, you're almost right in your assumptions. But it's not that
> Starbucks is doping their coffee, but rather that mostly dopes drink
> Starbucks coffee!
Actually their espresso is quite tasty. Their regular coffee is foul
swill, not fit for degreasing a cheap lawnmower let alone drinking.
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 14:15:06
From:
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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Rex wrote:
> I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
> territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
> minutes. I asked a friend who works at a Starbucks if such stuff was in
> the training. Not at all, he said. But he said, they do get to drink
> unlimited amounts of coffee on the job, so I deduced their behavior was
> due to too much caffeine.
>
...snip...
> Put it in the liquid chromatograph or whatever and check it for ten
> different things.
> Publicize your findings!
Starbucks, rumor has it, naturally enhances the amount of caffeine in
their beans through a unique roasting process, similar to how the
tobacco companies naturally enhanced the nicotene levels in the tobacco
they used in cigarettes.
It is my understanding that many regular users of this alt.coffee board
used to eat cigarette butts for the extra "zing". Yet those same
people have now switched to spent Starbucks Grounds. Much healthier
due to its higher ruffage content.
Marty
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 16:57:17
From: vernon
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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<martyminor11@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1151615706.665792.261440@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>
> Rex wrote:
>> I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
>> territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
>> minutes. I asked a friend who works at a Starbucks if such stuff was in
>> the training. Not at all, he said. But he said, they do get to drink
>> unlimited amounts of coffee on the job, so I deduced their behavior was
>> due to too much caffeine.
>>
> ...snip...
>> Put it in the liquid chromatograph or whatever and check it for ten
>> different things.
>> Publicize your findings!
>
> Starbucks, rumor has it, naturally enhances the amount of caffeine in
> their beans through a unique roasting process, similar to how the
> tobacco companies naturally enhanced the nicotene levels in the tobacco
> they used in cigarettes.
GEE, what a genious. They ROAST their coffee? Gosh, I bet no other coffee
distributor does that. The just say they do on the package or can.
DDUUUUUHHHHH
>
> It is my understanding that many regular users of this alt.coffee board
> used to eat cigarette butts for the extra "zing". Yet those same
> people have now switched to spent Starbucks Grounds. Much healthier
> due to its higher ruffage content.
>
> Marty
>
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 11:49:28
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee...
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Randy G. wrote:
> >"Rex" <z444y@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1151604306.466348.108760@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
> >> territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
> >> minutes. I asked a friend who works at a Starbucks if such stuff was in
> >> the training. Not at all, he said. But he said, they do get to drink
> >> unlimited amounts of coffee on the job, so I deduced their behavior was
> >> due to too much caffeine.
> >>
> >> Then I discovered Starbucks employees in France act the exact same way.
> >> Coincidence? People from a different culture, not prone to
> >> overconsumption of anything who are very skinny, acting in the same way
> >> as though the same brain centers have been activated or enhanced. I
> >> used to assume it was the caffeine, but no longer. People at other
> >> coffee joints don't act like this, not in France, and not to the same
> >> extent in the US.
> >>
> >> So I believe the coffee is doped. It must be.
> >>
>
> from:
> http://www.cspinet.org/nah/caffeine/caffeine_corner.htm
>
> Product Caffeine (mg)*
> Coffee, grande (16 oz.) Starbucks 550
> Caffe Americano, short (8 oz.) Starbucks 35
> Coffee, tall (12 oz.) Starbucks 375
> Caffe Latte, short (8 oz.) or tall (12 oz.) Starbucks 35
> Coffee, short (8 oz.) Starbucks 250
> Caffe Mocha, short (8 oz.) or tall (12 oz.) Starbucks 35
> NoDoz, Maximum Strength (1), or Vivarin (1) 200
> Cappuchino, short (8 oz.) or tall (12 oz.) Starbucks 35
> 7-Eleven Big Gulp cola (64 oz.) 190
>
> So a 16 ounce Starbies Grande has nearly three times as much caffeine
> than a half-gallon of cola from 7-Eleven, or 2.75 times the amount in
> TWO extra-strength NoDoz tabs. Ya, I'd be jumpy too!
>
>
> From:
> http://www.napa.ufl.edu/2003news/caffeinecontent.htm
> Scientists at the University of Florida College of Medicine recently
> analyzed 16-ounce servings of caffeinated coffee from specialty shops
> and found almost twice as much caffeine in the strongest brew -
> Starbucks regular, at 259 milligrams - compared with the weakest,
> Dunkin' Donuts regular, at 143 milligrams.
>
> Just do a Google for:
> Caffeine in Starbucks coffee
> and we will see you sometime in December if you read 24/7 until then.
> ;-)
>
Thanks for posting this Randy. I don't have any problem with caffeine
- 3 brewed coffees (ventis) from *$ in a day isn't that unusual if I'm
out and about - but it's interesting to know that should I want to ramp
down but still have a caffeinated coffee in the evening I can still
have an Americano. Even with my customary extra shot it's still quite
low in caffeine. W00T!
Carmen
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 18:17:57
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee...
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(...or, do dopes drink Starbucks coffee?)
Well Rex, you're almost right in your assumptions. But it's not that
Starbucks is doping their coffee, but rather that mostly dopes drink
Starbucks coffee! They create such a foul extraction of the Arabica coffee
plant's fruit that one questions the sanity of Starbucks patrons even BEFORE
they touched their first latte. And the French, well don't get me started
there. I mean they can't even spell espresso correctly & their bean of
choice is the robusta, preferably served with frogs legs. UGH!!
--
Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
"Rex" <z444y@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1151604306.466348.108760@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
> territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
> minutes. I asked a friend who works at a Starbucks if such stuff was in
> the training. Not at all, he said. But he said, they do get to drink
> unlimited amounts of coffee on the job, so I deduced their behavior was
> due to too much caffeine.
>
> Then I discovered Starbucks employees in France act the exact same way.
> Coincidence? People from a different culture, not prone to
> overconsumption of anything who are very skinny, acting in the same way
> as though the same brain centers have been activated or enhanced. I
> used to assume it was the caffeine, but no longer. People at other
> coffee joints don't act like this, not in France, and not to the same
> extent in the US.
>
> So I believe the coffee is doped. It must be.
>
> Are there any biology or chemistry students or researchers reading
> this? Or anyone in a Master's of Public Health department? You ought to
> test it for neurotransmitters. Or other known behavioral drugs. What an
> excellent journal article you could write in the interest of public
> health.
>
> Put it in the liquid chromatograph or whatever and check it for ten
> different things.
> Publicize your findings!
>
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 20:19:30
From: john
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee...
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"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote in message
news:pPUog.6$PE1.5@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> (...or, do dopes drink Starbucks coffee?)
> Well Rex, you're almost right in your assumptions. But it's not that
> Starbucks is doping their coffee, but rather that mostly dopes drink
> Starbucks coffee! They create such a foul extraction of the Arabica coffee
> plant's fruit that one questions the sanity of Starbucks patrons even
> BEFORE they touched their first latte. And the French, well don't get me
> started there. I mean they can't even spell espresso correctly & their
> bean of choice is the robusta, preferably served with frogs legs. UGH!!
> --
I seem to avoid Starbucks, must be something
Must be Lilith peeing in the water! http://ryanmcginty.com/symbolism/
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 11:35:44
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee...
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>"Rex" <z444y@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1151604306.466348.108760@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
>> territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
>> minutes. I asked a friend who works at a Starbucks if such stuff was in
>> the training. Not at all, he said. But he said, they do get to drink
>> unlimited amounts of coffee on the job, so I deduced their behavior was
>> due to too much caffeine.
>>
>> Then I discovered Starbucks employees in France act the exact same way.
>> Coincidence? People from a different culture, not prone to
>> overconsumption of anything who are very skinny, acting in the same way
>> as though the same brain centers have been activated or enhanced. I
>> used to assume it was the caffeine, but no longer. People at other
>> coffee joints don't act like this, not in France, and not to the same
>> extent in the US.
>>
>> So I believe the coffee is doped. It must be.
>>
from:
http://www.cspinet.org/nah/caffeine/caffeine_corner.htm
Product Caffeine (mg)*
Coffee, grande (16 oz.) Starbucks 550
Caffe Americano, short (8 oz.) Starbucks 35
Coffee, tall (12 oz.) Starbucks 375
Caffe Latte, short (8 oz.) or tall (12 oz.) Starbucks 35
Coffee, short (8 oz.) Starbucks 250
Caffe Mocha, short (8 oz.) or tall (12 oz.) Starbucks 35
NoDoz, Maximum Strength (1), or Vivarin (1) 200
Cappuchino, short (8 oz.) or tall (12 oz.) Starbucks 35
7-Eleven Big Gulp cola (64 oz.) 190
So a 16 ounce Starbies Grande has nearly three times as much caffeine
than a half-gallon of cola from 7-Eleven, or 2.75 times the amount in
TWO extra-strength NoDoz tabs. Ya, I'd be jumpy too!
From:
http://www.napa.ufl.edu/2003news/caffeinecontent.htm
Scientists at the University of Florida College of Medicine recently
analyzed 16-ounce servings of caffeinated coffee from specialty shops
and found almost twice as much caffeine in the strongest brew -
Starbucks regular, at 259 milligrams - compared with the weakest,
Dunkin’ Donuts regular, at 143 milligrams.
Just do a Google for:
Caffeine in Starbucks coffee
and we will see you sometime in December if you read 24/7 until then.
;-)
Randy "typed all of that in less than one second" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 06:26:43
From: daveb
Subject: Starbucks is doping their coffee -- ABSURD
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Just absurd. noise from a troll . . . .
Like the BS urban legend about worms in McDonald burgers, or thousands
of other ridiculous ideas.
Critical thinking:
1) What would they gain by doing this??
and
2) With their size and visibility, how in hell would they get away with
it??
Let's dump on Starbucks day. boooooring.
Dave
Rex wrote:
> I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
> territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
> minutes. I asked a friend who works at a Starbucks if such stuff was in
> the training. Not at all, he said. But he said, they do get to drink
> unlimited amounts of coffee on the job, so I deduced their behavior was
> due to too much caffeine.
>
> Then I discovered Starbucks employees in France act the exact same way.
> Coincidence? People from a different culture, not prone to
> overconsumption of anything who are very skinny, acting in the same way
> as though the same brain centers have been activated or enhanced. I
> used to assume it was the caffeine, but no longer. People at other
> coffee joints don't act like this, not in France, and not to the same
> extent in the US.
>
> So I believe the coffee is doped. It must be.
>
> Are there any biology or chemistry students or researchers reading
> this? Or anyone in a Master's of Public Health department? You ought to
> test it for neurotransmitters. Or other known behavioral drugs. What an
> excellent journal article you could write in the interest of public
> health.
>
> Put it in the liquid chromatograph or whatever and check it for ten
> different things.
> Publicize your findings!
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 19:01:56
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Starbucks is doping their coffee -- ABSURD
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 17:47:36
From:
Subject: Re: Starbucks is doping their coffee -- ABSURD
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Just a thought....maybe what he's observing is too many syrup type drinks
effects on the mostly young folks that SB usually employs. Just youngsters
on a sugar high?
"daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1151674003.100832.32220@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Just absurd. noise from a troll . . . .
>
> Like the BS urban legend about worms in McDonald burgers, or thousands
> of other ridiculous ideas.
>
> Critical thinking:
> 1) What would they gain by doing this??
> and
> 2) With their size and visibility, how in hell would they get away with
> it??
>
> Let's dump on Starbucks day. boooooring.
>
> Dave
>
> Rex wrote:
>> I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
>> territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
>> minutes. I asked a friend who works at a Starbucks if such stuff was in
>> the training. Not at all, he said. But he said, they do get to drink
>> unlimited amounts of coffee on the job, so I deduced their behavior was
>> due to too much caffeine.
>>
>> Then I discovered Starbucks employees in France act the exact same way.
>> Coincidence? People from a different culture, not prone to
>> overconsumption of anything who are very skinny, acting in the same way
>> as though the same brain centers have been activated or enhanced. I
>> used to assume it was the caffeine, but no longer. People at other
>> coffee joints don't act like this, not in France, and not to the same
>> extent in the US.
>>
>> So I believe the coffee is doped. It must be.
>>
>> Are there any biology or chemistry students or researchers reading
>> this? Or anyone in a Master's of Public Health department? You ought to
>> test it for neurotransmitters. Or other known behavioral drugs. What an
>> excellent journal article you could write in the interest of public
>> health.
>>
>> Put it in the liquid chromatograph or whatever and check it for ten
>> different things.
>> Publicize your findings!
>
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 12:54:40
From:
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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Carmen wrote:
> Kyle wrote:
> > They're certainly goopifying their coffee -- mixing it with slush,
> > whipped cream, caramel sauce, etc. I don't discern the flavor of
> > coffee in some of these drinks. Starbucks' beverages are increasingly
> > less like coffee and more like milkshakes.
>
> It'd be impossible for me to count the number of visits to Starbucks
> I've made, and I've yet to have one of the frou-frou drinks. If you
> want coffee, order coffee. Likewise with espresso. Don't blame them
> if you order a Grande Caramel Frappuccino with Triple Whip (extra syrup
> please) and it doesn't taste like coffee. They sell what people order.
>
> Carmen
Carmen,
Good point. Let's face it, Starbucks is in the business to make their
shareholders big bucks, just like any other business. I forget who
said it, but the point is, "Give the people what they want."
Starbucks does that extremely well. I for one think my home roasted
coffee is better than Starbucks, but I still go there on occassion with
my wife who does not like coffee, and we both enjoy their Vanilla
Blended Cremes.
Marty
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 21:33:10
From: Ima Genius
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks ROCKS!
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OMG, how dare you enjoy a Starbuck coffee!
Prepare to be flamed by the resident coffee nazis.
<martyminor11@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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>
<-snip-a-roo- >
> Starbucks does that extremely well. I for one think my home roasted
> coffee is better than Starbucks, but I still go there on occassion with
> my wife who does not like coffee, and we both enjoy their Vanilla
> Blended Cremes.
>
> Marty
>
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 19:32:15
From: aß
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks ROCKS!
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:33:10 -0400, "Ima Genius"
<ima.genius@mensa.cpm > wrote:
>OMG, how dare you enjoy a Starbuck coffee!
>Prepare to be flamed by the resident coffee nazis.
>
>
><martyminor11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1151697280.615412.149770@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>
><-snip-a-roo->
>> Starbucks does that extremely well. I for one think my home roasted
>> coffee is better than Starbucks, but I still go there on occassion with
>> my wife who does not like coffee, and we both enjoy their Vanilla
>> Blended Cremes.
>>
>> Marty
>>
>
they do make decent lattes, at least at the one by my work, but I
never drink anything else from them. & always make sure thy pull the
shots fresh, & not use the ones they've had sitting there for the last
10 minutes...
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 10:55:55
From: Kyle
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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Carmen wrote:
> Kyle wrote:
> > They're certainly goopifying their coffee -- mixing it with slush,
> > whipped cream, caramel sauce, etc. I don't discern the flavor of
> > coffee in some of these drinks. Starbucks' beverages are increasingly
> > less like coffee and more like milkshakes.
>
> It'd be impossible for me to count the number of visits to Starbucks
> I've made, and I've yet to have one of the frou-frou drinks. If you
> want coffee, order coffee. Likewise with espresso. Don't blame them
> if you order a Grande Caramel Frappuccino with Triple Whip (extra syrup
> please) and it doesn't taste like coffee. They sell what people order.
I'd say they have started a trend (the non-coffee-tasting coffee).
And I want to be clear that I'm familiar with the milkshakey items
through free samples.
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 10:53:19
From:
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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vernon wrote:
> <martyminor11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1151642977.777172.204900@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> > Yes, a coverup of the fact that your original post was about the most
> > retarded post I have possibly ever witnessed on this group. What the
> > hell does your "Roasted Coffee DUHHH" post have to do with my post
> > about Starbucks enhancing the caffeine in their coffee?
> >
>
>
> Over your tiny head, bigot.
This has to be the best. A religious fanatic calling someone else a
bigot. Like the pot calling the kettle black.
Marty
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 10:36:49
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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Kyle wrote:
> They're certainly goopifying their coffee -- mixing it with slush,
> whipped cream, caramel sauce, etc. I don't discern the flavor of
> coffee in some of these drinks. Starbucks' beverages are increasingly
> less like coffee and more like milkshakes.
It'd be impossible for me to count the number of visits to Starbucks
I've made, and I've yet to have one of the frou-frou drinks. If you
want coffee, order coffee. Likewise with espresso. Don't blame them
if you order a Grande Caramel Frappuccino with Triple Whip (extra syrup
please) and it doesn't taste like coffee. They sell what people order.
Carmen
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 10:14:35
From: Kyle
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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They're certainly goopifying their coffee -- mixing it with slush,
whipped cream, caramel sauce, etc. I don't discern the flavor of
coffee in some of these drinks. Starbucks' beverages are increasingly
less like coffee and more like milkshakes.
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 18:44:23
From: atomweaver
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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"Kyle" <kylejj64@yahoo.com > wrote in news:1151687675.670912.44860
@d30g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> They're certainly goopifying their coffee -- mixing it with slush,
> whipped cream, caramel sauce, etc. I don't discern the flavor of
> coffee in some of these drinks. Starbucks' beverages are increasingly
> less like coffee and more like milkshakes.
>
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DaveZ
Atom Weaver
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Date: 01 Jul 2006 05:57:56
From: daveb
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks ROCKS!
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If they are using 10 minute old shots -- write corporate, they will
respond to you promptly.
Dave "7yinjfvt6j7" b
a=DF wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:33:10 -0400, "Ima Genius"
> <ima.genius@mensa.cpm> wrote:
>
> >OMG, how dare you enjoy a Starbuck coffee!
> >Prepare to be flamed by the resident coffee nazis.
> >
> >
> ><martyminor11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1151697280.615412.149770@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> ><-snip-a-roo->
> >> Starbucks does that extremely well. I for one think my home roasted
> >> coffee is better than Starbucks, but I still go there on occassion with
> >> my wife who does not like coffee, and we both enjoy their Vanilla
> >> Blended Cremes.
> >>
> >> Marty
> >>
> >
> they do make decent lattes, at least at the one by my work, but I
> never drink anything else from them. & always make sure thy pull the
> shots fresh, & not use the ones they've had sitting there for the last
> 10 minutes...
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Date: 02 Jul 2006 20:55:43
From: Bill Penrose
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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Rex wrote:
> I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
> territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
> minutes.
I got this some years ago (second-hand) from a chemist employed by
Starbucks:
Starbucks coffee contains about twice the caffeine per ounce as an
average coffee. It's unlikely that they dope it with added caffeine,
since it would be cheaper just to select or breed crops for higher
caffeine content.
It is also deliberately over-roasted, ie, burned, because it is
intended to be mixed with milk and syrups, etc, for specialty drinks.
This is where the profit is. The burned flavor withstands dilution
better.
Bill Penrose
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Date: 03 Jul 2006 20:06:17
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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On 2 Jul 2006 20:55:43 -0700, "Bill Penrose" <penrose@iit.edu > wrote:
>Starbucks coffee contains about twice the caffeine per ounce as an
>average coffee. It's unlikely that they dope it with added caffeine,
>since it would be cheaper just to select or breed crops for higher
>caffeine content.
>
>It is also deliberately over-roasted, ie, burned, because it is
>intended to be mixed with milk and syrups, etc, for specialty drinks.
>This is where the profit is. The burned flavor withstands dilution
>better.
>
>Bill Penrose
You seriously have no idea what you are talking about. The history of
Starbucks is as well documented as any company's could be, and the
founders are still around and happy to talk about it. Their roast
style came directly from the man who trained them, Alfred Peet, who
had a nearly religious devotion to dark roasting. Alfred had no
interest in milk drinks and did not even sell brewed coffee for much
of the life of his shop. He only sold beans (and tea and spice).
Marshall
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Date: 03 Jul 2006 19:32:51
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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Bill Penrose wrote:
> vernon wrote:
> > I guess Bill though he could buy a cup of Starbuck's for $0.25 and they
> > laughed at him.
>
> Better than that. For of the project we were doing, the same coffee
> chemist sent us 5 lb bags of several varieties of coffee. After the
> experiments were done, the bags were put into protective custody so the
> students wouldn't run off with them. At suitable intervals (daily) we
> ran quality control checks on the coffee to make sure no one was
> pilfering or tampering with it. Sure enough, after a few weeks the
> coffee had entirely disappeared.
How can I get in on that racket, er, I mean research? I'm pre-med,
completed through first senior year, bio through the usuals and
Immunology & Serology, chem all the usual suspects, some physics and
mathematics inclusive of advanced statistics (both stand alone and
applied in a melded psych course). Pretty please? <G >
> It definitely ain't true that all coffees are the same. The same coffee
> variety also differs by source, year, storage conditions, roasting
> conditions, whatnot.
Tell me about it. I purchased a disappointing batch of Sidamo
recently. It lacks the normal boldness, although it does have the
body. Exploring differing levels of roast didn't reveal much in the
way of compensation either. Sigh.
Carmen
> Bill Penrose
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Date: 03 Jul 2006 15:19:01
From: Bill Penrose
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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vernon wrote:
> I guess Bill though he could buy a cup of Starbuck's for $0.25 and they
> laughed at him.
Better than that. For of the project we were doing, the same coffee
chemist sent us 5 lb bags of several varieties of coffee. After the
experiments were done, the bags were put into protective custody so the
students wouldn't run off with them. At suitable intervals (daily) we
ran quality control checks on the coffee to make sure no one was
pilfering or tampering with it. Sure enough, after a few weeks the
coffee had entirely disappeared.
It definitely ain't true that all coffees are the same. The same coffee
variety also differs by source, year, storage conditions, roasting
conditions, whatnot.
Bill Penrose
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Date: 03 Jul 2006 16:18:22
From: vernon
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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"Bill Penrose" <penrose@iit.edu > wrote in message
news:1151965141.462984.205810@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> vernon wrote:
>> I guess Bill though he could buy a cup of Starbuck's for $0.25 and they
>> laughed at him.
>
> Better than that. For of the project we were doing, the same coffee
> chemist sent us 5 lb bags of several varieties of coffee. After the
> experiments were done, the bags were put into protective custody so the
> students wouldn't run off with them. At suitable intervals (daily) we
> ran quality control checks on the coffee to make sure no one was
> pilfering or tampering with it. Sure enough, after a few weeks the
> coffee had entirely disappeared.
>
> It definitely ain't true that all coffees are the same. The same coffee
> variety also differs by source, year, storage conditions, roasting
> conditions, whatnot.
>
> Bill Penrose
>
WOW, coffees are different.
Starbuck's isn't very unique.
The same chemist???? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Unbiased? ha ha
ha ha ha ha
No one in the "school" was educated sufficiently to go purchase blindly ten
different brands, different types of each brand , separate them by
type,(Columbian etc.) and do the experiment?
Figures.
So the students wouldn't run off with them? figures
Define variety. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Date: 03 Jul 2006 11:48:45
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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Bill Penrose wrote:
> Rex wrote:
> > I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
> > territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
> > minutes.
>
> I got this some years ago (second-hand) from a chemist employed by
> Starbucks:
>
> Starbucks coffee contains about twice the caffeine per ounce as an
> average coffee. It's unlikely that they dope it with added caffeine,
> since it would be cheaper just to select or breed crops for higher
> caffeine content.
There's no evidence they select for higher caffeine content. They do,
however, roast dark. Right off the bat that leads to about a 20% mass
loss from green. Then they don't skimp on the amount of coffee they
use when brewing. (For example, their one-pot bags are 2.5 oz. Most
other companies are 1.75 oz to 2 oz for a one-pot bag) Take coffee
that has more caffeine per ounce due to roasting level, then use more
of it when brewing and you're going to have higher caffeine levels per
fluid ounce in the brewed finished product. No sinister manipulation
required, just a natural outcome of their business practices. ;-)
Carmen
> It is also deliberately over-roasted, ie, burned, because it is
> intended to be mixed with milk and syrups, etc, for specialty drinks.
> This is where the profit is. The burned flavor withstands dilution
> better.
>
> Bill Penrose
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Date: 03 Jul 2006 12:50:22
From: vernon
Subject: Re: I believe Starbucks is doping their coffee.
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"Carmen" <carmensrt@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1151952525.470344.265330@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
> Bill Penrose wrote:
>> Rex wrote:
>> > I used to think Starbucks employees act oddly. They act rather
>> > territorial, and anxious about customers staying for more than 5
>> > minutes.
>>
>> I got this some years ago (second-hand) from a chemist employed by
>> Starbucks:
>>
>> Starbucks coffee contains about twice the caffeine per ounce as an
>> average coffee. It's unlikely that they dope it with added caffeine,
>> since it would be cheaper just to select or breed crops for higher
>> caffeine content.
>
> There's no evidence they select for higher caffeine content. They do,
> however, roast dark. Right off the bat that leads to about a 20% mass
> loss from green. Then they don't skimp on the amount of coffee they
> use when brewing. (For example, their one-pot bags are 2.5 oz. Most
> other companies are 1.75 oz to 2 oz for a one-pot bag) Take coffee
> that has more caffeine per ounce due to roasting level, then use more
> of it when brewing and you're going to have higher caffeine levels per
> fluid ounce in the brewed finished product. No sinister manipulation
> required, just a natural outcome of their business practices. ;-)
>
> Carmen
>
>
>> It is also deliberately over-roasted, ie, burned, because it is
>> intended to be mixed with milk and syrups, etc, for specialty drinks.
>> This is where the profit is. The burned flavor withstands dilution
>> better.
>>
>> Bill Penrose
>
Right
Those who don't know how to make coffee make some dumb remarks about various
coffees.
If one (as you say) takes ANY BRAND good roasted coffee and makes coffee
rather than dishwater, we end up with a real rich tasting cup.
The pure stuff made in a filter type maker is also the type recently
identified as "good" for us.
They do NOT over-roast. The cheap coffees are extra roasted to enhance
flavor when non fully ripe beans are used.
The real culprit at Starbuck's is not the coffee. It is the customers who
load with cream and sugar, whether real or imitation sugar and cream.
I guess Bill though he could buy a cup of Starbuck's for $0.25 and they
laughed at him.
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