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Date: 12 Jun 2006 15:14:33
From: daveb
Subject: I heard about $700 dual boiler machines -- where are they?
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There aren't any! they start at about $1,600.
Unless you can point me to one?
dave
www.hitechespresso.com
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Date: 12 Jun 2006 20:33:37
From: jim schulman
Subject: Re: I heard about $700 dual boiler machines -- where are they?
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On 12 Jun 2006 15:14:33 -0700, "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote:
>There aren't any! they start at about $1,600.
>Unless you can point me to one?
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>dave
>www.hitechespresso.com
The Kitchenaid Espresso machine uses what seems like two Gaggia
Classic boilers. Dualit makes a similar, 2 home machine boiler, model
that sells in a 110V in Canada. The euro 220V versions of almost every
home machine come with optional "instant-steam" auxiliary
thermoblocks, since the wattage limit allows it. High end superautos
are dual thermoblock as well.
Whether you regard this dual home-size boiler configuration as a "dual
boiler machine" depends on your personal semantics. They have nothing
to do with temperature stability; but they do add convenience to latte
making.
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 19:37:07
From: tom- startequ*
Subject: Re: I heard about $700 dual boiler machines -- where are they?
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"jim schulman" wrote:
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> The Kitchenaid Espresso machine uses what seems like two Gaggia
> Classic boilers.
There are several Amazon customers that've put up comments about this
almost-thousand-dollar machine. Good points are made, especially the
one about the boiler size being the same as the Classic. So even
though it has two boilers, where the Classic runs out of steam while
frothing, so does the KitchenAid. And another comments about the
brewing boiler's considerable lag in performance when the steaming
boiler is used simultaneously.
Since it seems to use Gaggia boilers, I wonder if the steam arm on the
KitchenAid can be fitted to a Gaggia Espresso. I don't like to use the
perforated plastic frothing sleeve that comes standard with the
Espresso, and yet there's not much length to the steam arm without it.
Anybody have a link for a parts list for the KitchenAid machine? The
high end model number is KTA-KPES100PM. The KitchenAid website comes
up empty on a search for that model number.
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 16:18:38
From: Mike Garner
Subject: Re: I heard about $700 dual boiler machines -- where are they?
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In article <DzZjg.9665$lb.857509@news1.epix.net >,
startequatestohere@yahoonospam.com says...
> Since it seems to use Gaggia boilers, I wonder if the steam arm on the
> KitchenAid can be fitted to a Gaggia Espresso. I don't like to use the
> perforated plastic frothing sleeve that comes standard with the
> Espresso, and yet there's not much length to the steam arm without it.
> Anybody have a link for a parts list for the KitchenAid machine? The
> high end model number is KTA-KPES100PM. The KitchenAid website comes
> up empty on a search for that model number.
>
Former KA owner here. Why would you want to replace the Gaggia wand
with the KA wand? The KA machine has the *same* wand as current
Gaggias. What you need to do is go to Whole Latte Love and order the
"Saeco Panarello Wand - Black". Somewhere around $8 or so. Once it
comes in, install it on the KA and pull the sleeve off. Leaves a black
plastic shaft with a single hole on the tip. Big enough to froth in a
20oz. picher.
That being said, it's a decent machine suffering from the limitations of
it's design. It's basically a Classic w/ an Espresso bolted to the
side. All of the Gaggia shortcomings with a few of it's own. Pretty
machine though. Was basically happy with it, but reliability issues
made me decide to sell it off. If they sold it for a realistic price,
somewhere around $500-$600 it'd be worth it.
Mike
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 18:25:29
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: I heard about $700 dual boiler machines -- where are they?
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 14:53:45
From: jim schulman
Subject: Re: I heard about $700 dual boiler machines -- where are they?
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:25:29 GMT, ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D.
Ross) wrote:
>There are also some machines from Demoka, though apparently no longer sold
>in the US. Possibly the same machine as the Dualit!
Oops, I think those are the ones I meant.
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Date: 13 Jun 2006 04:28:54
From: daveb
Subject: Re: I heard about $700 dual boiler machines -- where are they?
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I did not know. I'll look into them, thanx!
dave
jim schulman wrote:
> On 12 Jun 2006 15:14:33 -0700, "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >There aren't any! they start at about $1,600.
> >Unless you can point me to one?
> >
> >dave
> >www.hitechespresso.com
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> The Kitchenaid Espresso machine uses what seems like two Gaggia
> Classic boilers. Dualit makes a similar, 2 home machine boiler, model
> that sells in a 110V in Canada. The euro 220V versions of almost every
> home machine come with optional "instant-steam" auxiliary
> thermoblocks, since the wattage limit allows it. High end superautos
> are dual thermoblock as well.
>
> Whether you regard this dual home-size boiler configuration as a "dual
> boiler machine" depends on your personal semantics. They have nothing
> to do with temperature stability; but they do add convenience to latte
> making.
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