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Date: 26 Jul 2006 19:58:34
From: aß
Subject: Lello 45900 Ariete Espresso/Cappuccino Maker - anyone have any experience with it?
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& yes, I know it is only $130.00 and has a 950 watt heatin element,
but from the few reviews of it on amazon seems like it might pass for
a starter machine for someone who mostly drinks latte/cappas
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E3ZF76/ref=nosim/103-2196059-3927841?n=284507
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Date: 26 Jul 2006 20:10:00
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Lello 45900 Ariete Espresso/Cappuccino Maker - anyone have any experience with it?
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aß <benthere@dunthat.com > wrote:
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>& yes, I know it is only $130.00 and has a 950 watt heatin element,
>but from the few reviews of it on amazon seems like it might pass for
>a starter machine for someone who mostly drinks latte/cappas
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E3ZF76/ref=nosim/103-2196059-3927841?n=284507
Two major drawbacks (from user reviews on the above page):
-"The portafilter is what Ariete calls their "Thermocream" design."
So it has a crema enhancing portafilter. Whether or not this can be
removed or modified is unknown.
-"I would like to add that the Group Head (the thing the portafilter
attaches to when you put it on) is not solid metal. Parts of it are
plastic."
This would indicate a possible design flaw that could limit its
useful life.
Thermoblocks are not the best but they can work, and as you say, for a
starter machine it might be OK. The little Krups I picked up at a
thrift store actually makes a very decent cup ... for $8 or so. ;-)
Additionally, "Save $25.00 when you spend $125.00 or more on Kitchen &
Housewares or Bed & Bath products offered by Amazon.com. Enter code
CLEAROUT at checkout" so the final price may be as low as $105.
It would be hard to convince a new barrista that they need to get a
$200-300 grinder to use with their $100 espresso machine! ;-)
Randy "inverted economist" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 26 Jul 2006 22:10:45
From: aß
Subject: Re: Lello 45900 Ariete Espresso/Cappuccino Maker - anyone have any experience with it?
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:10:00 -0700, Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com >
wrote:
>aß <benthere@dunthat.com> wrote:
>
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>>
>>& yes, I know it is only $130.00 and has a 950 watt heatin element,
>>but from the few reviews of it on amazon seems like it might pass for
>>a starter machine for someone who mostly drinks latte/cappas
>>
>>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E3ZF76/ref=nosim/103-2196059-3927841?n=284507
>
>
>Two major drawbacks (from user reviews on the above page):
>-"The portafilter is what Ariete calls their "Thermocream" design."
> So it has a crema enhancing portafilter. Whether or not this can be
>removed or modified is unknown.
>
>-"I would like to add that the Group Head (the thing the portafilter
>attaches to when you put it on) is not solid metal. Parts of it are
>plastic."
> This would indicate a possible design flaw that could limit its
>useful life.
>
>Thermoblocks are not the best but they can work, and as you say, for a
>starter machine it might be OK. The little Krups I picked up at a
>thrift store actually makes a very decent cup ... for $8 or so. ;-)
>
>Additionally, "Save $25.00 when you spend $125.00 or more on Kitchen &
>Housewares or Bed & Bath products offered by Amazon.com. Enter code
>CLEAROUT at checkout" so the final price may be as low as $105.
>
>It would be hard to convince a new barrista that they need to get a
>$200-300 grinder to use with their $100 espresso machine! ;-)
>
>
> Randy "inverted economist" G.
>http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>
yeah ,noted those comments. I could probably live with the
"Thermocreamer", but plastic in the grouphead is kinda iffy at best.
Too bad they couldn't have put some of that metal into the most
important parts ...ah well.
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Date: 27 Jul 2006 03:32:55
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Lello 45900 Ariete Espresso/Cappuccino Maker - anyone have any experience with it?
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RG,
This is exactly what people need to be convinced of. They should start with
an entry level pump machine & a $150-300 grinder. As they get tired of the
espresso being produced they'll move up to mid-level & maybe even more
expensive espresso machines. As they do they'll have a grinder capable of
producing consistent grounds to try with the new machines.
If they're buying new grinders every time they move up they'll be hard
pressed to say whether it's the new espresso machine or the new grinder
that's making the difference (good or bad) in what they're drinking. Limit
the number of variables & it's a lot easier to make up your mind to keep the
new machine or return it.
--
Robert (advice is worth what you paid for it) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:h9bgc29pmbdkuniifcma068nfeapnnr4qr@4ax.com...
> It would be hard to convince a new barrista that they need to get a
> $200-300 grinder to use with their $100 espresso machine! ;-)
>
>
> Randy "inverted economist" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
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Date: 26 Jul 2006 22:18:15
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Lello 45900 Ariete Espresso/Cappuccino Maker - anyone have any experience with it?
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As a group (such as alt.coffee is) we have always stated (and I will,
once again) that the grinder is at least as (if not more) important
than the machine.. Let's see if I get it right this time:
You can make decent espresso with a quality grinder and a mediocre
machine... but a great machine will perform poorly with a low quality
grinder... [reread and approved..].
For the OP of this thread, I would suggest reading chapter 79, "The
cost of grinder frugality," and chapter 80, "Starting the New Year -
1/1/2006." The two of them together cover the subject at hand- economy
machines and grinders.
Randy "...new I know TWO things" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote:
>
>RG,
>This is exactly what people need to be convinced of. They should start with
>an entry level pump machine & a $150-300 grinder. As they get tired of the
>espresso being produced they'll move up to mid-level & maybe even more
>expensive espresso machines. As they do they'll have a grinder capable of
>producing consistent grounds to try with the new machines.
>
>If they're buying new grinders every time they move up they'll be hard
>pressed to say whether it's the new espresso machine or the new grinder
>that's making the difference (good or bad) in what they're drinking. Limit
>the number of variables & it's a lot easier to make up your mind to keep the
>new machine or return it.
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Date: 27 Jul 2006 05:08:44
From: aß
Subject: Re: Lello 45900 Ariete Espresso/Cappuccino Maker - anyone have any experience with it?
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:18:15 -0700, Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com >
wrote:
>As a group (such as alt.coffee is) we have always stated (and I will,
>once again) that the grinder is at least as (if not more) important
>than the machine.. Let's see if I get it right this time:
>
>You can make decent espresso with a quality grinder and a mediocre
>machine... but a great machine will perform poorly with a low quality
>grinder... [reread and approved..].
>
>For the OP of this thread, I would suggest reading chapter 79, "The
>cost of grinder frugality," and chapter 80, "Starting the New Year -
>1/1/2006." The two of them together cover the subject at hand- economy
>machines and grinders.
>
>
> Randy "...new I know TWO things" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>
>
>
>"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote:
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>>RG,
>>This is exactly what people need to be convinced of. They should start with
>>an entry level pump machine & a $150-300 grinder. As they get tired of the
>>espresso being produced they'll move up to mid-level & maybe even more
>>expensive espresso machines. As they do they'll have a grinder capable of
>>producing consistent grounds to try with the new machines.
>>
>>If they're buying new grinders every time they move up they'll be hard
>>pressed to say whether it's the new espresso machine or the new grinder
>>that's making the difference (good or bad) in what they're drinking. Limit
>>the number of variables & it's a lot easier to make up your mind to keep the
>>new machine or return it.
I already own a Solis Maestro, which is good enough for my weekend
espresso needs. Again, I'm not looking for God Shots, just saw this
machine, price was right & it seemed well-constructed. My older Saeco
pump machine is still hanging in there, but the reviews on the Lello
indicated a swifter recovery time between shots & steaming which my
Saeco lacks.
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Date: 27 Jul 2006 04:02:31
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Lello 45900 Ariete Espresso
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Hey why not? looks OK. -- has a warranty and is returnable!
[ and apparently NO one here has any direct experience with it]
but you need at least a Gaggia MDF grinder and there are plenty of
good used grinders out there.
A used grinder is less risky than a used espresso machine as a grinder
is basically a motor and an on-off switch.
practical answers.
Dave
Saeco / Gaggia service SE
a=DF wrote:
> & yes, I know it is only $130.00 and has a 950 watt heatin element,
> but from the few reviews of it on amazon seems like it might pass for
> a starter machine for someone who mostly drinks latte/cappas
>
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Date: 27 Jul 2006 05:34:31
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Lello 45900 Ariete Espresso/Cappuccino Maker - anyone have any experience with it?
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Date: 27 Jul 2006 05:11:00
From: aß
Subject: Re: Lello 45900 Ariete Espresso/Cappuccino Maker - anyone have any experience with it?
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:34:31 GMT, ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D.
Ross) wrote:
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