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Date: 28 Jul 2006 10:20:06
From: coffeenjub
Subject: New Silvia -"plastic/metal"-tasting water


Im sure its quite obvious that the plastic/metally taste I get, is due
to my Silvia being only two days old, but I wonder how long such foul
taste will appear? As my nick suggest, Im not sure Im able to detect
this taste in the espresso (at least without any refferance), but its
been utterly distinct when using the hot water for tea. Also cooled
down a sample in the fridge to make sure, and the coldness didnt make
it any more pleasant. When water quality is such a big part of a good
espesso, Im sure this makes a big impact.

With all the Silvia-owners in here, Im sure someone could tell how long
this problem will last.





 
Date: 28 Jul 2006 15:38:04
From: daveb
Subject: Re: New Silvia -"plastic/metal"-tasting water


make some steam, flush it out.

There is NOTHING in there that will produce this.

Or return it.

dave



 
Date: 28 Jul 2006 11:33:44
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: New Silvia -"plastic/metal"-tasting water


I never had a plasticy taste from my machine. My first impression
(with no evidence at all- just an impression) from your description is
that they are using parts made in China (the water tank or pump
parts?) and some of the materials they are using in China now emit the
sort of tastes/smells you describe.

In order of likelihood, the plasticy taste could be from:

-The water reservoir
-The Pump
-The tubing

Take the reservoir out and wash it thoroughly with hot, soapy water.
Use a wash rag or sponge and scrub its interior thoroughly. Do NOT use
any abrasive cleaner or scrubbing pad. Rinse thoroughly and allow to
dry. When dry, fill it with water, allow to sit, then taste the water
directly from the reservoir (not pumped through the machine).

If the taste remains, try leaving the reservoir out in the sun for a
couple of hours and rewash and test again.

If the taste is not in the reservoir water, return it to the machine,
fill it, and try your pump-and-taste test once again. if the flavor is
still there, then the taste is coming from internal parts. Run a full
reservoir of water through the machine to thoroughly rinse out the
machine, and try again.

If the taste remains, run a load of citric acid cleaner through it
following the directions on the package and then THOROUGHLY rinse out
the machine- that can take as mush as two or three tanks of water! if
the plastic taste is still there, return the machine.

Randy "artificial Folger's taste" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com





"coffeenjub" <heltfeil@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>Im sure its quite obvious that the plastic/metally taste I get, is due
>to my Silvia being only two days old, but I wonder how long such foul
>taste will appear? As my nick suggest, Im not sure Im able to detect
>this taste in the espresso (at least without any refferance), but its
>been utterly distinct when using the hot water for tea. Also cooled
>down a sample in the fridge to make sure, and the coldness didnt make
>it any more pleasant. When water quality is such a big part of a good
>espesso, Im sure this makes a big impact.
>
>With all the Silvia-owners in here, Im sure someone could tell how long
>this problem will last.


 
Date: 28 Jul 2006 11:28:33
From: coffeenjub
Subject: Re: New Silvia -"plastic/metal"-tasting water


Thanks for the reply.

The same taste appears with or with out the PF, or just using the
steamwand.
Just tried running a couple of litres through it, refill with fresh
water, let it heat up and then taste the water. Alot less metal taste,
but still there.

Do you have to "empty" the boiler (let _lots_ of water run through the
steamwand) each time you gonna pull an espresso, if the machine have
been standing for more than an hour to avoid a metal taste from the
boiler?



  
Date: 28 Jul 2006 12:19:07
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: New Silvia -"plastic/metal"-tasting water


"coffeenjub" <heltfeil@gmail.com > wrote:

>Do you have to "empty" the boiler (let _lots_ of water run through the
>steamwand) each time you gonna pull an espresso, if the machine have
>been standing for more than an hour to avoid a metal taste from the
>boiler?
>
Absolutely not.

Even standing for a day or two.. or even a week is not a problem.

A SLIGHT metallic taste MIGHT be noticed in a new machine, or possibly
with water with an acidic balance, but it should go away quickly once
the machine has "seasoned" a bit- like the first few uses I would
guess.

maybe try some bottled drinking water to see if it makes a difference,
in order to rule out your tap water....?


Randy "tastes uckky, Mommy" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




 
Date: 28 Jul 2006 13:12:02
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: New Silvia -"plastic/metal"-tasting water


In article <1154107206.587801.205920@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"coffeenjub" <heltfeil@gmail.com > wrote:

> Im sure its quite obvious that the plastic/metally taste I get, is due
> to my Silvia being only two days old, but I wonder how long such foul
> taste will appear? As my nick suggest, Im not sure Im able to detect
> this taste in the espresso (at least without any refferance), but its
> been utterly distinct when using the hot water for tea. Also cooled
> down a sample in the fridge to make sure, and the coldness didnt make
> it any more pleasant. When water quality is such a big part of a good
> espesso, Im sure this makes a big impact.
>
> With all the Silvia-owners in here, Im sure someone could tell how long
> this problem will last.

I didn't have the problem when I got mine. I flushed it with two tanks
of water prior to use and all was good.


 
Date: 28 Jul 2006 18:02:12
From: Brian Colwell
Subject: Re: New Silvia -"plastic/metal"-tasting water



"coffeenjub" <heltfeil@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1154107206.587801.205920@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Im sure its quite obvious that the plastic/metally taste I get, is due
> to my Silvia being only two days old, but I wonder how long such foul
> taste will appear? As my nick suggest, Im not sure Im able to detect
> this taste in the espresso (at least without any refferance), but its
> been utterly distinct when using the hot water for tea. Also cooled
> down a sample in the fridge to make sure, and the coldness didnt make
> it any more pleasant. When water quality is such a big part of a good
> espesso, Im sure this makes a big impact.
>
> With all the Silvia-owners in here, Im sure someone could tell how long
> this problem will last.
>
Never experienced, this problem !

BMC




 
Date: 28 Jul 2006 17:47:48
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: New Silvia -"plastic/metal"-tasting water


A new espresso machine should never have such a taste. Yours obviously has a
contaminant that's giving you an off taste. I'd suggest talking to the
retailer about a replacement. If it's not in warranty try flushing it out
using a descaling solution of 3 tablespoons citric acid to one quart warm
water, followed by two quarts of clear water. Oh, and to make sure the
filter isn't the problem run a shot through without it.
--
Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r


"coffeenjub" <heltfeil@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1154107206.587801.205920@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Im sure its quite obvious that the plastic/metally taste I get, is due
> to my Silvia being only two days old, but I wonder how long such foul
> taste will appear? As my nick suggest, Im not sure Im able to detect
> this taste in the espresso (at least without any refferance), but its
> been utterly distinct when using the hot water for tea. Also cooled
> down a sample in the fridge to make sure, and the coldness didnt make
> it any more pleasant. When water quality is such a big part of a good
> espesso, Im sure this makes a big impact.
>
> With all the Silvia-owners in here, Im sure someone could tell how long
> this problem will last.
>