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Date: 11 Aug 2006 23:15:09
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Nuova Simonelli Personal
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One of our group won the bidding for a Nuova Simonelli Personal & now is
looking for copies of the owners manual and/or service manual. This is a
new machine for me - I've used an Oscar one of my friends had, is it
similar? It'll be in my shop in about a week; almost everyone brings them
here first for a little cleaning & other maintenance. Hopefully it won't
need any parts but just in case can someone point me toward a reliable
source for NS Personal parts? BTW, It's the 240 volt model - he too will
have the electrician out for a visit.
Robert Harmon
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Date: 11 Aug 2006 23:56:45
From: Alan
Subject: Re: Nuova Simonelli Personal
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"Robert Harmon" wrote
> One of our group won the bidding for a Nuova Simonelli Personal & now is
> looking for copies of the owners manual and/or service manual. This is a
> new machine for me - I've used an Oscar one of my friends had, is it
> similar? It'll be in my shop in about a week; almost everyone brings them
> here first for a little cleaning & other maintenance. Hopefully it won't
> need any parts but just in case can someone point me toward a reliable
> source for NS Personal parts? BTW, It's the 240 volt model - he too will
> have the electrician out for a visit.
Their website (http://www.nuovasimonelliusa.com/index.html) doesn't mention
a "Personal" model, but maybe you could contact them regarding a manual and
the availability of spare parts:
Nuova Simonelli USA
6940 Salashan PKWY - BLDG A
Ferndale WA 98248
T. 360-366-2226 - FAX 360-366-4015
info@nuovadistribution.com
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 10:30:48
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Nuova Simonelli Personal
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 08:20:46
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Nuova Simonelli Personal
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Simonelli has a parts database with diagrams on its own website. I don't
recall seeing the "Personal" on it. They will sell you factory parts direct
from their service center in Washington state. For the Elli, some parts are
increasingly NLA. and if NS USA doesn't have them, then good luck sourcing
them elsewhere.
"D. Ross" <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu > wrote in message
news:44ddac00.52619212@localhost...
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 15:58:57
From:
Subject: Re: Nuova Simonelli Personal
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I have a Personal in my cellar already half stripped (but there was a
Carimali Uno with older rights ;-) I also have an Oscar. The Personal
is no pre- or successor to the Oscar, but bears close resemblance to
the Mac2000 (or Mac Cup) - actually they both share a manual - and some
to the Program. The manuals don't really amount to much as usual, but
it certainly is useful to dl the parts book for the Mac and Program
from http://www.nuovasimonelliusa.com/support.htm. It is rather a rare
beast, you certainly find more Mac's in the bay. You could use the
Oscar's pf's, which are pretty cheap and easier to come by at least
here, or any other Simonelli model's as the bayonnet is obviously the
same (the Aurelia's are really nice, with a Cimbali like slant (word?)
and knobby rubber handle, bound to be introduced on the coming Oscar
revamp).
Hendrik
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 01:16:38
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Nuova Simonelli Personal
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 03:05:14
From: Sheygetz
Subject: Re: Nuova Simonelli Personal
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Addendum: Maybe this site http://shey-getz.fotoalbum-medion.de is
easier to handle, also has more pix. Choose "NS Personal" on the left,
and off you go. The German "word of the day" is "Vollbild", meaning
full frame - might come in handy ;-)
Hendrik
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 02:56:11
From: Sheygetz
Subject: Re: Nuova Simonelli Personal
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D. Ross schrieb:
> How does it compare in your opinion to the Ellimatic (which was the Oscar's
> predecessor)?
>
David, if this was directed at me, I've never seen let alone operated
an Elli. From what I've read the Elli employed a non-commercial
(smaller) grouphead and portafilter, which many people regard as rather
shoddy and detrimental to coffee quality. Wrt to Oscar differences,
they do have the same bayonnet, but the construction of the grouphead
is quite different. The Personal has a Sirai, where Oscar uses Ceme/
Mater pstats (in Europe at least, has to do with the current), and a
Gicar flowmeter. Obviously Oscar doesn't do hot water, the Personal
employs levers - rather wobbly affairs on my specimen - for both water
tap and steam. They are a little hard to spot on pix and have forth/
back action contrary to, say, an Elektra's up/ down. Most importantly,
the Personal has a rotary pump, though it can also be run from an
external tank.
The construction of the chassis is extremely complicated to take apart.
Loads of Catch 22's there, like you have to take off the Sirai to reach
the nut for the upper side panel, but can't, because you'd have to take
off the upper side panel to reach the Sirai nut *g*. Oscar's a real
darling there. As to the coffee - well, as I said, the Personal still
is in semi-detached state, so...I have a few pix up at
http://www.bilder-hosting.de/gallery/8196-9776.html The one problem
with Oscar has turned out to be the non-regulateable expansion valve. I
have a full 13.8 bar on a pf manometer, translating to prolly 12.8 on
real extraction, duh.
Hendrik
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 01:22:27
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Nuova Simonelli Personal
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 23:31:31
From: jim schulman
Subject: Re: Nuova Simonelli Personal
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:22:27 GMT, ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D.
Ross) wrote:
> I think it is an offspring of the Berg
>Alba (see pic here: http://kaffeewiki.de/index.php/Bild:Alba.jpg), a
>Carimali machine (note that the Oscar is also sold by Carimai).
The German article says it is smaller than an Oscar (no room for a
Sirai) and has a rotary pump as well as dosing, but also no vacuum
breaker or hot water tap. It especially praises the ultra-heavy
enamelled case, and says it was built by Alfa in Brasil.
The picture shows one with an added pump manometer and water tap.
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 06:02:53
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Nuova Simonelli Personal
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