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Date: 01 Aug 2006 14:22:49
From: Dario Ernst
Subject: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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Hello World,
after my few newbie questions here on the group i'd like to show you the
pictures of my homebuilt "roaster" (if its good enough to be called a roaster
*g).
i built that thingy on the example of the dieckmanns roestmeister
(http://www.dieckmann-aroma-kaffee.de/shop/catalog/unser_roestmeister.php?osCsi
d=bce045c7892038f72a556356418889e0) and this is the result:
http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0662.jpg
http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0663.jpg
http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0664.jpg
http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0665.jpg
http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0666.jpg
http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0667.jpg
http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0668.jpg
http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0672.jpg
what do you think is there to improve? if its possible to save that thingy at
all :P.
greetings
- dario
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Date: 01 Aug 2006 07:30:28
From: Johnny
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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"Dario Ernst" <NebuK@nebuk.de > wrote in message
news:slrnecuotp.77n.NebuK@cheza.er...
<snip/ >
> what do you think is there to improve? if its possible to save that thingy
at
> all :P.
>
> greetings
> - dario
You may want to strike up a conversation with Derek
http://uglyroast.atspace.com/
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Date: 01 Aug 2006 14:57:23
From: Dario Ernst
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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hehe - i know the ulgyroast already, but IMHO it isnt ugly anymore at all :/
On 2006-08-01, Johnny <removethis.huuanito@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
> "Dario Ernst" <NebuK@nebuk.de> wrote in message
> news:slrnecuotp.77n.NebuK@cheza.er...
><snip/>
>> what do you think is there to improve? if its possible to save that thingy
> at
>> all :P.
>>
>> greetings
>> - dario
>
> You may want to strike up a conversation with Derek
> http://uglyroast.atspace.com/
>
>
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Date: 01 Aug 2006 20:57:51
From: rasqual
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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Dario Ernst wrote:
> Hello World,
>
> after my few newbie questions here on the group i'd like to show you the
> pictures of my homebuilt "roaster" (if its good enough to be called a roaster
> *
Some already expressed concerns regarding safety are overt, but there's
a more subtle side to safety issues with your unit. If you need to
worry about whether anything might get too hot, then your attention
isn't where it belongs -- on your roast. You need to have a roaster
that frees you from any concerns so that during a roast, you can think
about what you need to think about -- and nothing else. I don't think
you have that, quite.
Having said that, I really like the basic design. The couple of things
I've seen like this are really intriguing. I'd like to do something
like it myself one day.
Best of luck. But do change your materials!
- Scott
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Date: 02 Aug 2006 08:40:21
From: Dario Ernst
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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Hi everybody,
first i want to thank you for the answers and great tipps ...
but then i'd also like to answer that material problem. i tried around with the
materials - namely mdf plates - a lot before building it. so - the heatgun does
at max 500 centigrade. if i put the heatgun directly (not even 1 cm distance) in
front of the wood it doesnt even become brown. so no worry. i also tried a
slightly more powerful heatgun doing 700 centigrade: the same, the distance
doesnt matter, the MDF won't even get a slight brown tone. so no worries here.
but again - thanks alot for advising me on the dangers of such a constructions.
about the price of the "tools" i used. for everything i needed for that
construction (the heatgun, the cordless screwdriver, the axis, the wheel, the
grid and even screws and nuts) i payed around 25 euro. so - for that price i
cant get a iroast or roestmeister. and if somebody knows where i can get one for
that price i will migrate with joy :P.
also as i have no problems with paying attention to the material i can
concentrate on the roast - so also no problem here. now the only thing i need is
a lot of experience for doing really good roasts :P.
thanks alot for the great comments again
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Date: 01 Aug 2006 16:47:19
From: JoeP
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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Dario Ernst wrote:
> Hello World,
>
> after my few newbie questions here on the group i'd like to show you the
> pictures of my homebuilt "roaster" (if its good enough to be called a roaster
> *g).
>
> i built that thingy on the example of the dieckmanns roestmeister
>
> what do you think is there to improve? if its possible to save that thingy at
> all :P.
>
> greetings
> - dario
Wow.....I would say you could improve a lot. I'm not sure where your
saving any money doing it yourself after you factor the cost of your
Heatgun and drill plus your poor hampster when you stole his wheel. My
opinion.... save your tools (and home) and buy a genecafe or hottop or
hearthware, or Iroast. Anything really. If you want to save money buy a
popcorn popper. You could even buy the roastmeister if you really want.
Joe
www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com
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Date: 01 Aug 2006 13:53:46
From:
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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Randy G. wrote:
> Uhh... are you serious? :-/
>
> IMO, you are either renting or have REALLY good homeowners insurance!
>
> A coffee roaster... fabricated with a wooden (flammable) box as the
> roasting chamber.... lined with a heat absorbing material
> (aluminum)... all being used over a flammable surface!!!!???
>
>
> Randy "how many light bulbs does it take to..." G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
Randy,
Hold on a second. Let's not immediately presume that the material he
is using is regular old plywood. It may be a type of fire retardant
composite. It certainly looks a bit different than regular old
plywood. At least the main housing does.
If it were fire retardant material I may refrain from using it for
other issues (chemical residue and related).
Personally I think he can create a chemically safer roaster and fire
retardant roaster using 16 gauge steel sheet metal and metal edging ...
drilled where appropriate and fastened together using either rivets or
little nuts and bolts. He could even keep the same basic design.
Now thats constructive criticism, not fly off the handle nut job stuff
you project.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Randy.
Marty
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Date: 01 Aug 2006 17:47:04
From: notbob
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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On 2006-08-01, martyminor11@yahoo.com <martyminor11@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Randy.
Maybe if the guy had used briar wood. As it stands, it looks like a
menace.
nb
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Date: 01 Aug 2006 22:15:16
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote:
>On 2006-08-01, martyminor11@yahoo.com <martyminor11@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Randy.
>
>Maybe if the guy had used briar wood. As it stands, it looks like a
>menace.
>
Maybe if Marty had spent time working as a firefighter, and had spent
time trying to extinguish flames that were destroying the homes of
friends and neighbors as I have, he would tend to view such things
differently. Maybe his attitude would be different if he had to
explain to a neighbor, as I did, that their retirement dream home,
filled with antique furniture cannot be saved as you both watch it
burn to the ground. Maybe I do take such things more seriously than
others, but it is my personal experiences that make me do so.
If anyone else thinks that using a high temperature heat gun so close
to what appears to be MDF, on top of a carpeted surface, inside a
structure is a good idea, please speak up.
Randy "fuel, heat, and oxygen- it's all there" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 02 Aug 2006 00:34:48
From: notbob
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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On 2006-08-02, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote:
> If anyone else thinks ....is a good idea...
It sounds like you're under the impression I do. If so, you are
mistaken.
nb
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Date: 02 Aug 2006 07:28:46
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote:
>On 2006-08-02, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote:
>
>> If anyone else thinks ....is a good idea...
>
>It sounds like you're under the impression I do. If so, you are
>mistaken.
>
>nb
No- that statement and message was intended for Marty.
Randy "" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 02 Aug 2006 15:57:58
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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I don't think that there's any carpeting in the picture - what looks like
carpet is some kind of composite countertop, not very flammable but probably
expensive to replace.
The nature of the heat gun is that since air (which has a low heat content)
is the working fluid it heats up whatever it is focused on but a very short
distance away the temperature remains close to ambient. The temperature
inside poppers is fairly hot but they usually have plastic cases which do
not burst into flames either. Indeed heat guns themselves have plastic
cases. I assume if Dario's roaster had already burst into flames or even
showed signs of scorching he would have told us. That being said, I think
sheet metal would have been a better choice for the housing.
.
"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:4ic0d21u0vnka8i5kjk9gt1l84rrc6b8dt@4ax.com...
> notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2006-08-01, martyminor11@yahoo.com <martyminor11@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Randy.
>>
>>Maybe if the guy had used briar wood. As it stands, it looks like a
>>menace.
>>
>
> Maybe if Marty had spent time working as a firefighter, and had spent
> time trying to extinguish flames that were destroying the homes of
> friends and neighbors as I have, he would tend to view such things
> differently. Maybe his attitude would be different if he had to
> explain to a neighbor, as I did, that their retirement dream home,
> filled with antique furniture cannot be saved as you both watch it
> burn to the ground. Maybe I do take such things more seriously than
> others, but it is my personal experiences that make me do so.
>
> If anyone else thinks that using a high temperature heat gun so close
> to what appears to be MDF, on top of a carpeted surface, inside a
> structure is a good idea, please speak up.
>
>
> Randy "fuel, heat, and oxygen- it's all there" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>
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Date: 01 Aug 2006 11:42:31
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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Dario Ernst <NebuK@nebuk.de > wrote:
>Hello World,
>
>after my few newbie questions here on the group i'd like to show you the
>pictures of my homebuilt "roaster" (if its good enough to be called a roaster
>*g).
>
>i built that thingy on the example of the dieckmanns roestmeister
>(http://www.dieckmann-aroma-kaffee.de/shop/catalog/unser_roestmeister.php?osCsi
>d=bce045c7892038f72a556356418889e0) and this is the result:
>
>http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0662.jpg
>http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0663.jpg
>what do you think is there to improve? if its possible to save that thingy at
>all :P.
>
Uhh... are you serious? :-/
IMO, you are either renting or have REALLY good homeowners insurance!
A coffee roaster... fabricated with a wooden (flammable) box as the
roasting chamber.... lined with a heat absorbing material
(aluminum)... all being used over a flammable surface!!!!???
Sort of brings to mind a fire call where we were dispatched to a
fellow who had suffered some 1st and small 2nd degree burns- he wasn't
sure it was gasoline in the old motorcycle he was "restoring" so he
poured it into a pan and tested it with a match. The flash-over scared
him, he jumped back, kicking the pan in the process and splashing some
burning gasoline onto his pants. The bottom 1/4th of the legs of the
pants were burnt off as I remember.
Not saying that your intelligence is on that low level, but the
outcome could end up looking the same to the fire brigade. I would
suggest mounting the "drum" in a large metal cracker tin or similar as
a start, and then insulating the outside of that with a fire-resistant
material, or possibly with a double tin so the outer skin does not get
too hot..
Randy "how many light bulbs does it take to..." G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 02 Aug 2006 09:02:23
From: Randy R
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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I would be worried about the chaff catching on fire, and the fire
spreading to the enclosure, since there's no chaff
collection/seperation.
Randy R
Dario Ernst wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> first i want to thank you for the answers and great tipps ...
>
> but then i'd also like to answer that material problem. i tried around with the
> materials - namely mdf plates - a lot before building it. so - the heatgun does
> at max 500 centigrade. if i put the heatgun directly (not even 1 cm distance) in
> front of the wood it doesnt even become brown. so no worry. i also tried a
> slightly more powerful heatgun doing 700 centigrade: the same, the distance
> doesnt matter, the MDF won't even get a slight brown tone. so no worries here.
>
> but again - thanks alot for advising me on the dangers of such a constructions.
>
> about the price of the "tools" i used. for everything i needed for that
> construction (the heatgun, the cordless screwdriver, the axis, the wheel, the
> grid and even screws and nuts) i payed around 25 euro. so - for that price i
> cant get a iroast or roestmeister. and if somebody knows where i can get one for
> that price i will migrate with joy :P.
>
> also as i have no problems with paying attention to the material i can
> concentrate on the roast - so also no problem here. now the only thing i need is
> a lot of experience for doing really good roasts :P.
>
> thanks alot for the great comments again
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Date: 02 Aug 2006 16:27:32
From: Dario Ernst
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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the chaff is no problem since its "thrown out" of the construction by the
circulating airstream. what cant be seen on the picture is that in the back of
the wooden box theres a semicirle steel sheet which makes the air going in there
circular. becaus of the all the chaff is simply blown out at the top of the
wooden box. i havent found even a bit chaff inside there or in the drum yet.
On 2006-08-02, Randy R <rrostie@gmail.com > wrote:
> I would be worried about the chaff catching on fire, and the fire
> spreading to the enclosure, since there's no chaff
> collection/seperation.
>
> Randy R
>
> Dario Ernst wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> first i want to thank you for the answers and great tipps ...
>>
>> but then i'd also like to answer that material problem. i tried around with the
>> materials - namely mdf plates - a lot before building it. so - the heatgun does
>> at max 500 centigrade. if i put the heatgun directly (not even 1 cm distance) in
>> front of the wood it doesnt even become brown. so no worry. i also tried a
>> slightly more powerful heatgun doing 700 centigrade: the same, the distance
>> doesnt matter, the MDF won't even get a slight brown tone. so no worries here.
>>
>> but again - thanks alot for advising me on the dangers of such a constructions.
>>
>> about the price of the "tools" i used. for everything i needed for that
>> construction (the heatgun, the cordless screwdriver, the axis, the wheel, the
>> grid and even screws and nuts) i payed around 25 euro. so - for that price i
>> cant get a iroast or roestmeister. and if somebody knows where i can get one for
>> that price i will migrate with joy :P.
>>
>> also as i have no problems with paying attention to the material i can
>> concentrate on the roast - so also no problem here. now the only thing i need is
>> a lot of experience for doing really good roasts :P.
>>
>> thanks alot for the great comments again
>
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Date: 02 Aug 2006 15:01:06
From: rasqual
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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Dario Ernst wrote:
> the chaff is no problem since its "thrown out" of the construction by the
> circulating airstream. what cant be seen on the picture is that in the back of
> the wooden box theres a semicirle steel sheet which makes the air going in there
> circular. becaus of the all the chaff is simply blown out at the top of the
> wooden box. i havent found even a bit chaff inside there or in the drum yet.
video. You must post video of it in action. ;-)
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 07:24:28
From: Dario Ernst
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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i don't have a video camera, sorry :/
but if i can find a someone lending one to me for a day or two i will post the
result here for sure :P.
On 2006-08-02, rasqual <scott.marquardt@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> Dario Ernst wrote:
>> the chaff is no problem since its "thrown out" of the construction by the
>> circulating airstream. what cant be seen on the picture is that in the back of
>> the wooden box theres a semicirle steel sheet which makes the air going in there
>> circular. becaus of the all the chaff is simply blown out at the top of the
>> wooden box. i havent found even a bit chaff inside there or in the drum yet.
>
> video. You must post video of it in action. ;-)
>
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 10:04:30
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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Dario Ernst wrote:
> i don't have a video camera, sorry :/
> but if i can find a someone lending one to me for a day or two i will post the
> result here for sure :P.
Not here, since this is a text group. Put any binaries in
alt.binaries.coffee with a pointer here.
--
Regards, Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 02:50:08
From: Ed Needham
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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The last pic says it all. Great job.
--
*********************
Ed Needham®
"to absurdity and beyond!"
ed at homeroaster dot com
(include [FRIEND] in subject line to get through my SPAM filters)
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"Dario Ernst" <NebuK@nebuk.de > wrote in message
news:slrnecuotp.77n.NebuK@cheza.er...
> Hello World,
>
> after my few newbie questions here on the group i'd like to show you the
> pictures of my homebuilt "roaster" (if its good enough to be called a
> roaster
> *g).
>
> i built that thingy on the example of the dieckmanns roestmeister
> (http://www.dieckmann-aroma-kaffee.de/shop/catalog/unser_roestmeister.php?osCsi
> d=bce045c7892038f72a556356418889e0) and this is the result:
>
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0662.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0663.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0664.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0665.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0666.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0667.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0668.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0672.jpg
>
> what do you think is there to improve? if its possible to save that thingy
> at
> all :P.
>
> greetings
> - dario
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 08:07:22
From:
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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Randy G. wrote:
> Maybe if Marty had spent time working as a firefighter, and had spent
> time trying to extinguish flames that were destroying the homes of
> friends and neighbors as I have, he would tend to view such things
...snip...
> If anyone else thinks that using a high temperature heat gun so close
> to what appears to be MDF, on top of a carpeted surface, inside a
> structure is a good idea, please speak up.
>
>
> Randy "fuel, heat, and oxygen- it's all there" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
Randy,
Most firefighters I know started life as drunk little pyros in High
School.
But hey, I guess that is just a stereotype ... reinforced yet again
when you read about some firefighter arrested for starting some fire
somewhere.
Marty
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Date: 06 Aug 2006 02:28:44
From: HomeRoast@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Pictures of homebuilt roaster
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How does it roast? Probably the only important question...
Does it have a girl in the picture? OK, so this is an important
question too...
Brett
Dario Ernst wrote:
> Hello World,
>
> after my few newbie questions here on the group i'd like to show you the
> pictures of my homebuilt "roaster" (if its good enough to be called a roaster
> *g).
>
> i built that thingy on the example of the dieckmanns roestmeister
> (http://www.dieckmann-aroma-kaffee.de/shop/catalog/unser_roestmeister.php?osCsi
> d=bce045c7892038f72a556356418889e0) and this is the result:
>
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0662.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0663.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0664.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0665.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0666.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0667.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0668.jpg
> http://ghostdub.de/~daddel9/tmp/dsc_0672.jpg
>
> what do you think is there to improve? if its possible to save that thingy at
> all :P.
>
> greetings
> - dario
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