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Date: 21 Jun 2006 12:33:12
From: Hekko
Subject: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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Hi all,
I received a Philips Senseo machine from my mother-in-law (they are not all
evil you know).
I love the coffee it makes, but there is one thing about the machine that
really bugs me:
You have to push the on/off button first, then wait for the water to heat
before you can push the cup-of-coffee button. In practice this means that
I'm standing in front of the Senseo with my finger on the cup-of-coffee
button, waiting for the water to boil. This is time I could have spent so
much better! Calling my mother-in-law for example.
Why can't I push the cup-of-coffee button while the water is heating!!????
Does anyone know of a Seseo mod that changes this behaviour?
thanks,
Hekko
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 18:05:01
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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Hekko wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I received a Philips Senseo machine from my mother-in-law (they are not all
> evil you know).
>
> I love the coffee it makes, but there is one thing about the machine that
> really bugs me:
>
> You have to push the on/off button first, then wait for the water to heat
> before you can push the cup-of-coffee button. In practice this means that
> I'm standing in front of the Senseo with my finger on the cup-of-coffee
> button, waiting for the water to boil. This is time I could have spent so
> much better! Calling my mother-in-law for example.
>
> Why can't I push the cup-of-coffee button while the water is heating!!????
>
> Does anyone know of a Seseo mod that changes this behaviour?
It would require the addition of some electronics to store the fact
that you pressed the button, and to then wait whilst the unit reached
operating temperature before carrying out the instruction. I suppose
a simple timer could be built into the vend button to allow a wait,
but this wait would either be used on each operation, or would have to
have a variable timer installed also, so I'd just switch it on, brush
my teeth and then brew coffeee.
--
Regards, Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 20:09:15
From: Hekko
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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>>
>> Why can't I push the cup-of-coffee button while the water is
>> heating!!????
>>
>> Does anyone know of a Seseo mod that changes this behaviour?
>
> It would require the addition of some electronics to store the fact that
> you pressed the button, and to then wait whilst the unit reached operating
> temperature before carrying out the instruction. I suppose a simple timer
> could be built into the vend button to allow a wait, but this wait would
> either be used on each operation, or would have to have a variable timer
> installed also, so I'd just switch it on, brush my teeth and then brew
> coffeee.
toothpaste and coffee, i don't know :)
but yes indeed, there must be someone out there who knows
how to build such electonic circuit?
It should be quite easy..some IC and a capacitor soldered at the right
place..
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 09:09:15
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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Well seriously, Hekko, if you want a machine that will make coffee the
instant you hit the button, you have to buy (or persuade your mother in
law to buy) a machine that is designed to do that.
Will
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 14:28:17
From: Mathew Hargreaves
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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Hi Hekko,
I do not have one of these but know that all of them other than
the Aluminum bodied model, are made of plastic. The companies cannot
risk these machines being on all of the time as the plastic is a major
fire hazard should they overheat or run dry. The fiest model of the Mr.
Coffee was a fire hazard in that it did not have an automatic cutoff
switch in it. Someone's house burned down due to it resulting in a
lawsuit against the manufacturers. These safety features are a good
thing for the public for when they forget to turn off the machines at
home. This is assuming that you want your home there when you get home
from work :-)
The heating elements will also last longer if they are not running
all of the time. Another option for you would be to put hot water in the
receptical thus reducing the heating time needed to reach the boiling
point. If you are making your own pods with fresh coffee, then that
coffee will be better and worth the wait. Though I understand they brew
at too low a temperture for proper extraction. I wonder if the aluminum
bodied models operate at a higher brewing tempreture?
CHEERS...Matt
Hekko wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I received a Philips Senseo machine from my mother-in-law (they are not all
> evil you know).
>
> I love the coffee it makes, but there is one thing about the machine that
> really bugs me:
>
> You have to push the on/off button first, then wait for the water to heat
> before you can push the cup-of-coffee button. In practice this means that
> I'm standing in front of the Senseo with my finger on the cup-of-coffee
> button, waiting for the water to boil. This is time I could have spent so
> much better! Calling my mother-in-law for example.
>
> Why can't I push the cup-of-coffee button while the water is heating!!????
>
> Does anyone know of a Seseo mod that changes this behaviour?
>
> thanks,
>
> Hekko
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 20:02:04
From: Hekko
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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Actually I don't mind that the machine takes a while to heat up before it
can brew the coffee, but the fact that you have to wait untill the water is
boiled before you can instruct it to brew a cup is a design flaw if you ask
me.
I would be much better if you could turn on the machine and immediately push
'single cup' button. The the machine could start boiling the water, and once
it has done that brew the coffee (and maybe have some audio signal to
indicate that it's done).
"Mathew Hargreaves" <mathewdh@worldnet.att.net > schreef in bericht
news:449956D2.89427628@worldnet.att.net...
> Hi Hekko,
>
> I do not have one of these but know that all of them other than
> the Aluminum bodied model, are made of plastic. The companies cannot
> risk these machines being on all of the time as the plastic is a major
> fire hazard should they overheat or run dry. The fiest model of the Mr.
> Coffee was a fire hazard in that it did not have an automatic cutoff
> switch in it. Someone's house burned down due to it resulting in a
> lawsuit against the manufacturers. These safety features are a good
> thing for the public for when they forget to turn off the machines at
> home. This is assuming that you want your home there when you get home
> from work :-)
> The heating elements will also last longer if they are not running
> all of the time. Another option for you would be to put hot water in the
> receptical thus reducing the heating time needed to reach the boiling
> point. If you are making your own pods with fresh coffee, then that
> coffee will be better and worth the wait. Though I understand they brew
> at too low a temperture for proper extraction. I wonder if the aluminum
> bodied models operate at a higher brewing tempreture?
>
> CHEERS...Matt
>
> Hekko wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I received a Philips Senseo machine from my mother-in-law (they are not
>> all
>> evil you know).
>>
>> I love the coffee it makes, but there is one thing about the machine that
>> really bugs me:
>>
>> You have to push the on/off button first, then wait for the water to heat
>> before you can push the cup-of-coffee button. In practice this means that
>> I'm standing in front of the Senseo with my finger on the cup-of-coffee
>> button, waiting for the water to boil. This is time I could have spent so
>> much better! Calling my mother-in-law for example.
>>
>> Why can't I push the cup-of-coffee button while the water is
>> heating!!????
>>
>> Does anyone know of a Seseo mod that changes this behaviour?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Hekko
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Date: 22 Jun 2006 01:28:50
From: Mathew Hargreaves
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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No Hekko, it is not a flaw in the design. The designers know the
best temperture that coffee needs to brew at. So they designed it to not
brew until the water is heated correctly to due the job right.
Have you checked out the other similar coffee makers to find out if
they offer the automatic option you have descibed?
CHEERS...Matt
Hekko wrote:
>
> Actually I don't mind that the machine takes a while to heat up before it
> can brew the coffee, but the fact that you have to wait untill the water is
> boiled before you can instruct it to brew a cup is a design flaw if you ask
> me.
>
> I would be much better if you could turn on the machine and immediately push
> 'single cup' button. The the machine could start boiling the water, and once
> it has done that brew the coffee (and maybe have some audio signal to
> indicate that it's done).
>
> "Mathew Hargreaves" <mathewdh@worldnet.att.net> schreef in bericht
> news:449956D2.89427628@worldnet.att.net...
> > Hi Hekko,
> >
> > I do not have one of these but know that all of them other than
> > the Aluminum bodied model, are made of plastic. The companies cannot
> > risk these machines being on all of the time as the plastic is a major
> > fire hazard should they overheat or run dry. The fiest model of the Mr.
> > Coffee was a fire hazard in that it did not have an automatic cutoff
> > switch in it. Someone's house burned down due to it resulting in a
> > lawsuit against the manufacturers. These safety features are a good
> > thing for the public for when they forget to turn off the machines at
> > home. This is assuming that you want your home there when you get home
> > from work :-)
> > The heating elements will also last longer if they are not running
> > all of the time. Another option for you would be to put hot water in the
> > receptical thus reducing the heating time needed to reach the boiling
> > point. If you are making your own pods with fresh coffee, then that
> > coffee will be better and worth the wait. Though I understand they brew
> > at too low a temperture for proper extraction. I wonder if the aluminum
> > bodied models operate at a higher brewing tempreture?
> >
> > CHEERS...Matt
> >
> > Hekko wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I received a Philips Senseo machine from my mother-in-law (they are not
> >> all
> >> evil you know).
> >>
> >> I love the coffee it makes, but there is one thing about the machine that
> >> really bugs me:
> >>
> >> You have to push the on/off button first, then wait for the water to heat
> >> before you can push the cup-of-coffee button. In practice this means that
> >> I'm standing in front of the Senseo with my finger on the cup-of-coffee
> >> button, waiting for the water to boil. This is time I could have spent so
> >> much better! Calling my mother-in-law for example.
> >>
> >> Why can't I push the cup-of-coffee button while the water is
> >> heating!!????
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of a Seseo mod that changes this behaviour?
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >>
> >> Hekko
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 05:03:58
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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I don't mean to sound as if I'm belittling your intelligence, Hekko,
but why would it surprise you that you have to turn on a machine before
it wil begin to operate?
What you may want, if you insist upon this kind of coffee, is one of
the bigger Keurig coffeemakers that stays on and keeps water hot all
the time.
Will
Hekko wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I received a Philips Senseo machine from my mother-in-law (they are not all
> evil you know).
>
> I love the coffee it makes, but there is one thing about the machine that
> really bugs me:
>
> You have to push the on/off button first, then wait for the water to heat
> before you can push the cup-of-coffee button. In practice this means that
> I'm standing in front of the Senseo with my finger on the cup-of-coffee
> button, waiting for the water to boil. This is time I could have spent so
> much better! Calling my mother-in-law for example.
>
> Why can't I push the cup-of-coffee button while the water is heating!!????
>
> Does anyone know of a Seseo mod that changes this behaviour?
>
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Hekko
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 15:56:58
From: Hekko
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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<Omniryx@gmail.com > schreef in bericht
news:1150891438.335436.56310@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>I don't mean to sound as if I'm belittling your intelligence, Hekko,
> but why would it surprise you that you have to turn on a machine before
> it wil begin to operate?
>
Thank you very much for your contribution Will!
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 19:24:53
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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"Hekko" <anon04044004@hotmail.com > wrote:
>I love the coffee it makes, but there is one thing about the machine that
>really bugs me - You have to push the on/off button first, then wait for the water to heat
>before you can push the cup-of-coffee button. In practice this means that
>I'm standing in front of the Senseo with my finger on the cup-of-coffee
>button, waiting for the water to boil.
>
First, the machine won't brew right away because it has to come to
temperature- something it does really well. Second, they don't want
you walking away from a machine that will pour out scalding hot water
unattended. Some little kid comes along, bumps the machine, tries to
put the cup back, and it par-boils the linoleum lizard, and you turn
around and sue McDonalds.. Something like that.
Randy "honey! The kid's ready!" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 22 Jun 2006 11:48:04
From: Hekko
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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> First, the machine won't brew right away because it has to come to
> temperature- something it does really well. Second, they don't want
> you walking away from a machine that will pour out scalding hot water
> unattended. Some little kid comes along, bumps the machine, tries to
> put the cup back, and it par-boils the linoleum lizard, and you turn
> around and sue McDonalds.. Something like that.
Yes I see what you're saying..hadn't thought of that.
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Date: 22 Jun 2006 18:02:46
From: Simpson
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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In article <449a675d$0$31650$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl >, anon04044004
@hotmail.com says...
snip
> > Second, they don't want
> > you walking away from a machine that will pour out scalding hot water
> > unattended.
snip
>
>
Hekko, I forgot to say your point was quite reasonable. I'd thought the
same thing. Until Randy made his point I'd just let the annoyance
subside to a dull roar when I used the darned thing, now I think I
understand why they did it... actually a reasonable design choice I
didn't suss out for myself...
--
email me at:
tee en jay ess eye em pee ess oh en one-the-number (at) cee oh em cee a
ess tee (dot) en ee tee
ANY other email addie will probably mean I spam-killed your message
unread, by accident, really.
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Date: 22 Jun 2006 17:59:05
From: Simpson
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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In article <449a675d$0$31650$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl >, anon04044004
@hotmail.com says...
> > First, the machine won't brew right away because it has to come to
> > temperature- something it does really well. Second, they don't want
> > you walking away from a machine that will pour out scalding hot water
> > unattended.
snip.
>
>
>
>
An analogue is the unlock button on a Zojirushi Electric Dispensing Pot.
See:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1442115D
"As a safety feature, you must depress "unlock" before "dispense" so no
one will inadvertently release a stream of hot water."
Ted
--
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tee en jay ess eye em pee ess oh en one-the-number (at) cee oh em cee a
ess tee (dot) en ee tee
ANY other email addie will probably mean I spam-killed your message
unread, by accident, really.
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 14:57:15
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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I've had TWO great mothers-in-law!
BUT, the Senseo is not really the best way to make coffee -- any
coffee.
Sorry.
(I'm sure she did her best)
Dave "gy6e56bwbsb" b
Hekko wrote:
> >>
> >> Why can't I push the cup-of-coffee button while the water is
> >> heating!!????
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of a Seseo mod that changes this behaviour?
> >
> > It would require the addition of some electronics to store the fact that
> > you pressed the button, and to then wait whilst the unit reached operating
> > temperature before carrying out the instruction. I suppose a simple timer
> > could be built into the vend button to allow a wait, but this wait would
> > either be used on each operation, or would have to have a variable timer
> > installed also, so I'd just switch it on, brush my teeth and then brew
> > coffeee.
>
> toothpaste and coffee, i don't know :)
>
> but yes indeed, there must be someone out there who knows
> how to build such electonic circuit?
>
> It should be quite easy..some IC and a capacitor soldered at the right
> place..
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Date: 22 Jun 2006 01:09:21
From: Hekko
Subject: Re: Stupid Philips Senseo controls, what can we do?
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> I've had TWO great mothers-in-law!
>
Not at the same time I hope? :)
> BUT, the Senseo is not really the best way to make coffee -- any
> coffee.
> Sorry.
> (I'm sure she did her best)
I'm not a coffee expert, so I believe you right away when you say it's not
the best way to make coffee. However, the Senseo makes quite a decent cup
and it seems to me that Philips has actually introduced a new kind of
coffee...something in between an espresso and a standard cup of coffee. Put
a little grinded cinnamon on the foam and it's actually quite delicious.
(no, my mother in law is not reading this newsgroup)
>
> Dave "gy6e56bwbsb" b
>
>
> Hekko wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Why can't I push the cup-of-coffee button while the water is
>> >> heating!!????
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone know of a Seseo mod that changes this behaviour?
>> >
>> > It would require the addition of some electronics to store the fact
>> > that
>> > you pressed the button, and to then wait whilst the unit reached
>> > operating
>> > temperature before carrying out the instruction. I suppose a simple
>> > timer
>> > could be built into the vend button to allow a wait, but this wait
>> > would
>> > either be used on each operation, or would have to have a variable
>> > timer
>> > installed also, so I'd just switch it on, brush my teeth and then brew
>> > coffeee.
>>
>> toothpaste and coffee, i don't know :)
>>
>> but yes indeed, there must be someone out there who knows
>> how to build such electonic circuit?
>>
>> It should be quite easy..some IC and a capacitor soldered at the right
>> place..
>
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