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Date: 08 Jun 2006 06:40:17
From: BoyntonStu
Subject: The no French Press method.
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The no French Press method.
My French Press broke.
I found a better, easier, cleaner way and the cost was minimal.
First, The correct temperature water in total contact with the freshly
ground coffee, STIRRED, and steeped for a set time is a must!
The drinking cup in my microwave for 120 seconds will produce 180*F
water. (It can be adjusted, but I like it fine.)
The bonus, is a preheated cup.
OK. Just dump the hot water over your grounds in an insulated plastic
mug and stir like crazy for 10 seconds.
(I have been told by experts that stirring is the key to extraction.)
After 2 minutes or so, you have your fully extracted unfiltered coffee.
2 choices, paper or gold filter.,
(I prefer gold with the fines.)
Using the filter section from a simple (no valve) drip, place it on
your drinking cup like a hat.
Dump the coffee into the filter, and within 30 seconds or so, you will
have the best brewed coffee with no fancy machine.
It is SO simple. A little rinse and all is clean.
Try it.
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Date: 08 Jun 2006 08:15:57
From: BoyntonStu
Subject: Re: The no French Press method.
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TimEggers wrote:
> You posted this to coffeegeek too didn't you? Shame... ;)
Shame on me? Why? ;)
I had a ~12 cup Bodum vacuum pot. Sold it.
This method is 'more better'. No fooling!
Reasons:
1 > Exact temp.
2 > Exact time.
3 > Better stirring.
4 > Choice of filters
5 > One cup is fine.
5 > More than one cup doable.
6 > Almost zero expense. (Gold filter)
7 > Much easier cleanup, especially with Norelco gold filter.
8 > No counter space. Store insulated brew mug and filter holder inside
cabinet.
9 > Full, rich-tasting coffee, s m o o t h.
I would never go back to any other method.
Glad the FP broke!.
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Date: 08 Jun 2006 23:02:24
From: ensenadajim
Subject: Re: The no French Press method.
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On 8 Jun 2006 08:15:57 -0700, "BoyntonStu" <stu@aaronj.com > wrote:
>TimEggers wrote:
>> You posted this to coffeegeek too didn't you? Shame... ;)
>
>Shame on me? Why? ;)
>
>
>I had a ~12 cup Bodum vacuum pot. Sold it.
>
>This method is 'more better'. No fooling!
>
>Reasons:
>
>
>1> Exact temp.
>2> Exact time.
>3> Better stirring.
>4> Choice of filters
>5> One cup is fine.
>5> More than one cup doable.
>6> Almost zero expense. (Gold filter)
>7> Much easier cleanup, especially with Norelco gold filter.
>8> No counter space. Store insulated brew mug and filter holder inside
>cabinet.
>9> Full, rich-tasting coffee, s m o o t h.
>
>
>
>I would never go back to any other method.
>
>Glad the FP broke!.
Glad you only have to entertain yourself.
jim
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Date: 11 Jun 2006 01:47:57
From: Eureka
Subject: Re: The no French Press method.
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Jim,
With a little imagination you can entertain your guests while at the same
time bring them back to the future (1896). I assure you they will love it
and thank you for the lesson. You can order the circa 1800's simple to use
Puerto Rico style colander (colador) for $1.50 each at CAFEdePR.com and hand
them out to your guests. Set up a table and run a demo on how to use this
very practical and easy to keep little gadget that will produce the best cup
of coffee that will rock the brains out of your guests and their
imagination. And when they wake up from all of this they will look back and
wonder "how stupid could hey have been to have spent hundreds of dollars in
expensive gadgets that half the time do not produce the coffee to your
expectations. Try it... you will like it.
"ensenadajim" <ensenadaXXXjim@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:qh3i82djb5h2upe25knqs6oaq6cl6ni6a2@4ax.com...
> On 8 Jun 2006 08:15:57 -0700, "BoyntonStu" <stu@aaronj.com> wrote:
>
>>TimEggers wrote:
>>> You posted this to coffeegeek too didn't you? Shame... ;)
>>
>>Shame on me? Why? ;)
>>
>>
>>I had a ~12 cup Bodum vacuum pot. Sold it.
>>
>>This method is 'more better'. No fooling!
>>
>>Reasons:
>>
>>
>>1> Exact temp.
>>2> Exact time.
>>3> Better stirring.
>>4> Choice of filters
>>5> One cup is fine.
>>5> More than one cup doable.
>>6> Almost zero expense. (Gold filter)
>>7> Much easier cleanup, especially with Norelco gold filter.
>>8> No counter space. Store insulated brew mug and filter holder inside
>>cabinet.
>>9> Full, rich-tasting coffee, s m o o t h.
>>
>>
>>
>>I would never go back to any other method.
>>
>>Glad the FP broke!.
>
> Glad you only have to entertain yourself.
>
>
> jim
>
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Date: 10 Jun 2006 23:27:06
From: ensenadajim
Subject: Re: The no French Press method.
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You overestimate the intelligence of the American public, including
your friends. They might try it once or twice, make sure they do it
when you are their company and tell you they do all the time, but do
they?
I'm betting against it. Most people will consider it too much work,
when they can fill it, push a button and walk away to return to their
autodrip.
They will take a different view of you when your evangelism wears thin
on them.
jim
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:47:57 GMT, "Eureka" <noname@verizon.net > wrote:
>Jim,
>With a little imagination you can entertain your guests while at the same
>time bring them back to the future (1896). I assure you they will love it
>and thank you for the lesson. You can order the circa 1800's simple to use
>Puerto Rico style colander (colador) for $1.50 each at CAFEdePR.com and hand
>them out to your guests. Set up a table and run a demo on how to use this
>very practical and easy to keep little gadget that will produce the best cup
>of coffee that will rock the brains out of your guests and their
>imagination. And when they wake up from all of this they will look back and
>wonder "how stupid could hey have been to have spent hundreds of dollars in
>expensive gadgets that half the time do not produce the coffee to your
>expectations. Try it... you will like it.
>
>
>"ensenadajim" <ensenadaXXXjim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:qh3i82djb5h2upe25knqs6oaq6cl6ni6a2@4ax.com...
>> On 8 Jun 2006 08:15:57 -0700, "BoyntonStu" <stu@aaronj.com> wrote:
>>
>>>TimEggers wrote:
>>>> You posted this to coffeegeek too didn't you? Shame... ;)
>>>
>>>Shame on me? Why? ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>I had a ~12 cup Bodum vacuum pot. Sold it.
>>>
>>>This method is 'more better'. No fooling!
>>>
>>>Reasons:
>>>
>>>
>>>1> Exact temp.
>>>2> Exact time.
>>>3> Better stirring.
>>>4> Choice of filters
>>>5> One cup is fine.
>>>5> More than one cup doable.
>>>6> Almost zero expense. (Gold filter)
>>>7> Much easier cleanup, especially with Norelco gold filter.
>>>8> No counter space. Store insulated brew mug and filter holder inside
>>>cabinet.
>>>9> Full, rich-tasting coffee, s m o o t h.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I would never go back to any other method.
>>>
>>>Glad the FP broke!.
>>
>> Glad you only have to entertain yourself.
>>
>>
>> jim
>>
>
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Date: 11 Jun 2006 15:31:33
From: Eureka
Subject: Re: The no French Press method.
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Jim,
You might be right about the 'mentality' of today's humans. What makes you
think that I was talking about "the intelligence of the American public"?
FYI this sort of mentality of having the newest model on the market of
anything is a WORLDWIDE syndrome. I do not think it hurts anyone to buy a
$1.50 circa 1800 gadget to make the most delicious cup of coffee which if
you do not like it you can always ditch it and no big loss. Whereas if you
spend $500 on the latest brewing gadget and do not have the time to maintain
it and clean it you will as well wind up ditching it like what happens to
millions of vacuum cleaners; just one example of a machine people don't find
the time to clean and they become useless.
Regards and ENJOY your CAFEdePR.com
"ensenadajim" <ensenadaXXXjim@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:andn82psjsgmdm05hvmjfjt2ooj5i4nri3@4ax.com...
>
> You overestimate the intelligence of the American public, including
> your friends. They might try it once or twice, make sure they do it
> when you are their company and tell you they do all the time, but do
> they?
>
> I'm betting against it. Most people will consider it too much work,
> when they can fill it, push a button and walk away to return to their
> autodrip.
>
> They will take a different view of you when your evangelism wears thin
> on them.
>
>
> jim
>
>
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:47:57 GMT, "Eureka" <noname@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Jim,
>>With a little imagination you can entertain your guests while at the same
>>time bring them back to the future (1896). I assure you they will love it
>>and thank you for the lesson. You can order the circa 1800's simple to
>>use
>>Puerto Rico style colander (colador) for $1.50 each at CAFEdePR.com and
>>hand
>>them out to your guests. Set up a table and run a demo on how to use this
>>very practical and easy to keep little gadget that will produce the best
>>cup
>>of coffee that will rock the brains out of your guests and their
>>imagination. And when they wake up from all of this they will look back
>>and
>>wonder "how stupid could hey have been to have spent hundreds of dollars
>>in
>>expensive gadgets that half the time do not produce the coffee to your
>>expectations. Try it... you will like it.
>>
>>
>>"ensenadajim" <ensenadaXXXjim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:qh3i82djb5h2upe25knqs6oaq6cl6ni6a2@4ax.com...
>>> On 8 Jun 2006 08:15:57 -0700, "BoyntonStu" <stu@aaronj.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>TimEggers wrote:
>>>>> You posted this to coffeegeek too didn't you? Shame... ;)
>>>>
>>>>Shame on me? Why? ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I had a ~12 cup Bodum vacuum pot. Sold it.
>>>>
>>>>This method is 'more better'. No fooling!
>>>>
>>>>Reasons:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1> Exact temp.
>>>>2> Exact time.
>>>>3> Better stirring.
>>>>4> Choice of filters
>>>>5> One cup is fine.
>>>>5> More than one cup doable.
>>>>6> Almost zero expense. (Gold filter)
>>>>7> Much easier cleanup, especially with Norelco gold filter.
>>>>8> No counter space. Store insulated brew mug and filter holder inside
>>>>cabinet.
>>>>9> Full, rich-tasting coffee, s m o o t h.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I would never go back to any other method.
>>>>
>>>>Glad the FP broke!.
>>>
>>> Glad you only have to entertain yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> jim
>>>
>>
>
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Date: 12 Jun 2006 00:41:34
From: ensenadajim
Subject: Re: The no French Press method.
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Not really a worldwide syndrome. More in the developed countries. In
most of the rest, day-to-day survival takes precedence over the latest
toy, were they even able to afford them.
You evangelism is noted and may be a turnoff to a lot of people who
would otherwise be interested. If you denigrate what they have, you
are, possibly, insulting them.
Time for that thought to cross your mind.
jim
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 15:31:33 GMT, "Eureka" <noname@verizon.net > wrote:
>Jim,
>You might be right about the 'mentality' of today's humans. What makes you
>think that I was talking about "the intelligence of the American public"?
>FYI this sort of mentality of having the newest model on the market of
>anything is a WORLDWIDE syndrome. I do not think it hurts anyone to buy a
>$1.50 circa 1800 gadget to make the most delicious cup of coffee which if
>you do not like it you can always ditch it and no big loss. Whereas if you
>spend $500 on the latest brewing gadget and do not have the time to maintain
>it and clean it you will as well wind up ditching it like what happens to
>millions of vacuum cleaners; just one example of a machine people don't find
>the time to clean and they become useless.
>Regards and ENJOY your CAFEdePR.com
>
>
>
>"ensenadajim" <ensenadaXXXjim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:andn82psjsgmdm05hvmjfjt2ooj5i4nri3@4ax.com...
>>
>> You overestimate the intelligence of the American public, including
>> your friends. They might try it once or twice, make sure they do it
>> when you are their company and tell you they do all the time, but do
>> they?
>>
>> I'm betting against it. Most people will consider it too much work,
>> when they can fill it, push a button and walk away to return to their
>> autodrip.
>>
>> They will take a different view of you when your evangelism wears thin
>> on them.
>>
>>
>> jim
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:47:57 GMT, "Eureka" <noname@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Jim,
>>>With a little imagination you can entertain your guests while at the same
>>>time bring them back to the future (1896). I assure you they will love it
>>>and thank you for the lesson. You can order the circa 1800's simple to
>>>use
>>>Puerto Rico style colander (colador) for $1.50 each at CAFEdePR.com and
>>>hand
>>>them out to your guests. Set up a table and run a demo on how to use this
>>>very practical and easy to keep little gadget that will produce the best
>>>cup
>>>of coffee that will rock the brains out of your guests and their
>>>imagination. And when they wake up from all of this they will look back
>>>and
>>>wonder "how stupid could hey have been to have spent hundreds of dollars
>>>in
>>>expensive gadgets that half the time do not produce the coffee to your
>>>expectations. Try it... you will like it.
>>>
>>>
>>>"ensenadajim" <ensenadaXXXjim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:qh3i82djb5h2upe25knqs6oaq6cl6ni6a2@4ax.com...
>>>> On 8 Jun 2006 08:15:57 -0700, "BoyntonStu" <stu@aaronj.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>TimEggers wrote:
>>>>>> You posted this to coffeegeek too didn't you? Shame... ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>Shame on me? Why? ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I had a ~12 cup Bodum vacuum pot. Sold it.
>>>>>
>>>>>This method is 'more better'. No fooling!
>>>>>
>>>>>Reasons:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>1> Exact temp.
>>>>>2> Exact time.
>>>>>3> Better stirring.
>>>>>4> Choice of filters
>>>>>5> One cup is fine.
>>>>>5> More than one cup doable.
>>>>>6> Almost zero expense. (Gold filter)
>>>>>7> Much easier cleanup, especially with Norelco gold filter.
>>>>>8> No counter space. Store insulated brew mug and filter holder inside
>>>>>cabinet.
>>>>>9> Full, rich-tasting coffee, s m o o t h.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I would never go back to any other method.
>>>>>
>>>>>Glad the FP broke!.
>>>>
>>>> Glad you only have to entertain yourself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jim
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Date: 08 Jun 2006 07:54:07
From: TimEggers
Subject: Re: The no French Press method.
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You posted this to coffeegeek too didn't you? Shame... ;)
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Date: 08 Jun 2006 13:46:21
From:
Subject: Re: The no French Press method.
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In alt.coffee, BoyntonStu <stu@aaronj.com > wrote:
> The drinking cup in my microwave for 120 seconds will produce 180*F
> water. (It can be adjusted, but I like it fine.)
Slightly hotter may be more to yor liking. Try it.
> OK. Just dump the hot water over your grounds in an insulated plastic
> mug and stir like crazy for 10 seconds.
So far, so good.
> After 2 minutes or so, you have your fully extracted unfiltered coffee.
Try 3 0r 4 - you might like it.
> Using the filter section from a simple (no valve) drip, place it on
> your drinking cup like a hat.
I use a Filtropa filter holder - same idea.
> Dump the coffee into the filter, and within 30 seconds or so, you will
> have the best brewed coffee with no fancy machine.
> It is SO simple. A little rinse and all is clean.
Sounds good. I think that any method where the coffee is fully immersed
in water makes a lot of sense. I use a vac pot, and it is pretty much the
method you describe, given that all the water and all the coffee are all
mixed together.
Between French Press, vac pot, and your "modified Cowboy coffee", the main
difference is just in the filtering.
--
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
--Edward R. Murrow
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Date: 09 Jun 2006 14:56:14
From: mallow005@gmail.com
Subject: Re: The no French Press method.
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This produces a much different cup than the french press, ONLY because
of the filter/drip part. The rest of it can (and is) done with a french
press method (thermometer? water boiler?). Whether one is better than
the other is personal preference, of course. I would imagine that this
would be a cross between a drip machine and a french press, the main
thing I would miss would be the thick "crunchy" body of fp coffee.
Otherwise, a good alternative.
BoyntonStu wrote:
> Reasons:
>
>
> 1> Exact temp.
> 2> Exact time.
> 3> Better stirring.
> 4> Choice of filters
> 5> One cup is fine.
> 5> More than one cup doable.
^ all these are not valid reasons since a fp also exhibits these
qualities. (well, at least I was able to get a swiss gold filter for my
bodum)
> 6> Almost zero expense. (Gold filter)
> 7> Much easier cleanup, especially with Norelco gold filter.
^ gold filter on fp = just as easy
> 8> No counter space. Store insulated brew mug and filter holder inside
> cabinet.
> 9> Full, rich-tasting coffee, s m o o t h.
^replace smooth with "no grit", otherwise same as fp.
If the size of the FP irked you, you should have gotten a smaller one,
they sell as small as 4cup (or 2?).
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