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Date: 23 Aug 2006 14:25:00
From: bernie digman
Subject: Well Duhhhh!
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It has been busy and hectic and all the other stuff related to being a half-assed business person
in charge of a herd of college-student-staffers as well as having a penchant to get great ideas,
order the parts for the project and then see something bright and shiney and head off into the blue
yonder. But youse knew that, didn't you?
I did get the initial logo put on the veggie van the other day so now I have to behave in
traffic. I'm still waiting for the graphic artist to give me a few renderings for the total van wrap
we hope to do.
This afternoon I was trying to stay awake after a too-big lunch of fresh green chile burger,
fries and extra large rootbeer at the microbrewery down the block. I was pondering how to cajole
Pat-the-Man into getting on the stick and fabricating a couple of tanks for the veggie oil for the
veggie van project. He is overwhelmed with work as a contractor and has left a pile of equipment and
construction debris at my house for almost two months untouched. He replaced all the windows with
newer vinyl windows and now has to redo the entire stucco job which wasn't done correctly whenever
the house was built. So asking him for one more project when he is so far behind won't work.
Looking out the window and across the street I see my friend and neighbor Ed's little fabrication
business. By chance he ended up opening his business across from my warehouse so we are both
residential and commercial neighors. He builds very sophisticated harvesting machines that are
flying out of the shop like hotcakes. A Rube Goldberg looking contraption that can harvest chile
without bruising or dropping which is an amazing engineering feat. I know they are swamped, but I
moseyed across the street and struck up a conversation with his shop foreman. I told him what I was
doing with my diesel van and how I hoped to be one of the first commerical food vendors in the area
to run on veggie oil and so on and so forth. The guy looks at me and says, "You're Ed's neighbor out
there aren't you?" "Yep." I go on to tell him my tale of woe about Pat-The-Man and how I was
wondering if they fabricated chemical or fuel tanks for the units they were building and would they
ever have a hole in the schedule that they could squeeze in a set of holding tanks for me. Yep. In
fact, he says, that guy over there has probably built more fuel tanks and holding tanks than anyone
in the state. Okay, its a small state. He said to give them the dimensions and bring the bungs and
they would have them in short order. So as I'm walking back to my warehouse I'm thinkin' to myself,
Well Duhhhh, Bernie. Next time pay attention and you may get this project finished by next spring
after all.
Bernie
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 18:29:24
From: Steve Ackman
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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In <44ecb99e@nntp.zianet.com >, on Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:25:00 -0600, bernie
digman wrote:
> wondering if they fabricated chemical or fuel tanks for the units they were building and would they
> ever have a hole in the schedule that they could squeeze in a set of holding tanks for me.
Holding tanks. As in something to hold veggie oil
around the base of operations; not to take on the
vehicle itself?
Just saw on craigslist the other day, some 250
gallon food-grade polyethylene tanks with steel bar
reinforcement up and around the sides, and square
steel skids (for forklifting). Originally held soy
bean oil. 6" bung in the top, 2" ball valve in the
bottom. The guy wanted $10 apiece or would take $50
for 10.
Someone must have scarfed them all up since the
listing is gone now.
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 16:43:04
From: bernie digman
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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Steve Ackman wrote:
> In <44ecb99e@nntp.zianet.com>, on Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:25:00 -0600, bernie
> digman wrote:
>
>
>>wondering if they fabricated chemical or fuel tanks for the units they were building and would they
>>ever have a hole in the schedule that they could squeeze in a set of holding tanks for me.
>
>
> Holding tanks. As in something to hold veggie oil
> around the base of operations; not to take on the
> vehicle itself?
>
> Just saw on craigslist the other day, some 250
> gallon food-grade polyethylene tanks with steel bar
> reinforcement up and around the sides, and square
> steel skids (for forklifting). Originally held soy
> bean oil. 6" bung in the top, 2" ball valve in the
> bottom. The guy wanted $10 apiece or would take $50
> for 10.
> Someone must have scarfed them all up since the
> listing is gone now.
>
Yow. That was a hell of a deal. The ones I'm having fabricated are onboard tanks that fit between
the chassis and the sidewall of the van. They are 40"x8"x19" which will hold close to 26 gallons
each. Each will have a sending unit wired into a dual three-port solenoid valve and they will each
have a fuel level guage on the dash. I was going to go with poly tanks, but imagine trying to get a
poly tank down, say, the road from Shiprock to Chaco Canyon. I'm planning to take this on some
remote venues at some point. Maybe the next gourd dance in Naschitti or Dzilth-na-o-dith-le. Okay,
maybe not.
Bernie
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 01:06:58
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:43:04 -0600, bernie digman <bdigman@zianet.com >
wrote:
>poly tank down, say, the road from Shiprock to Chaco Canyon. I'm planning to take this on some
>remote venues at some point. Maybe the next gourd dance in Naschitti or Dzilth-na-o-dith-le. Okay,
>maybe not.
how 'bout minnesota next summer?
--barry "no cell signal; it *must* be remote"
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 23:57:26
From: Steve Ackman
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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In <csupe21h6g3dcsh0o17hr8jvpu7mijb0pe@4ax.com >, on Thu, 24 Aug 2006
01:06:58 GMT, Barry Jarrett wrote:
> --barry "no cell signal; it *must* be remote"
If that's all it takes to qualify, then I'm remote
here.
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 08:01:45
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:57:26 -0400, Steve Ackman
<steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com > wrote:
>In <csupe21h6g3dcsh0o17hr8jvpu7mijb0pe@4ax.com>, on Thu, 24 Aug 2006
>01:06:58 GMT, Barry Jarrett wrote:
>
>> --barry "no cell signal; it *must* be remote"
>
> If that's all it takes to qualify, then I'm remote
>here.
so too, apparently, is downtown st. louis. ;)
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 10:29:34
From: Steve Ackman
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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In <r6nqe2pvfd202fgic39ukmi51oeptdbco4@4ax.com >, on Thu, 24 Aug 2006
08:01:45 GMT, Barry Jarrett wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:57:26 -0400, Steve Ackman
><steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote:
>
> >In <csupe21h6g3dcsh0o17hr8jvpu7mijb0pe@4ax.com>, on Thu, 24 Aug 2006
> >01:06:58 GMT, Barry Jarrett wrote:
> >
> >> --barry "no cell signal; it *must* be remote"
> >
> > If that's all it takes to qualify, then I'm remote
> >here.
>
> so too, apparently, is downtown st. louis. ;)
Yeah but... (see a.b.c)
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 03:04:41
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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so about three weeks ago, i'm on my way to work, driving up I-55/70
near fairmont city, just east of east st. louis, and about a mile up i
see something/someone walking along the shoulder of the highway. as i
got closer, it was obviously too small to be a person, and it didn't
move like a person. my next thought was that it was a dog trotting
along, but, no, that didn't look right, either.
i guess i was about a 1/4 mile away when i realized it was a rather
large wild turkey, calmly walking along the shoulder of the
interstate....
--barry "coyotes around here, too"
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 23:19:04
From: Alice Faber
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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In article <djpse21o8nrqbd9bgni4ltta5lg7651oj6@4ax.com >,
Barry Jarrett <barry@rileys-coffee.com > wrote:
> so about three weeks ago, i'm on my way to work, driving up I-55/70
> near fairmont city, just east of east st. louis, and about a mile up i
> see something/someone walking along the shoulder of the highway. as i
> got closer, it was obviously too small to be a person, and it didn't
> move like a person. my next thought was that it was a dog trotting
> along, but, no, that didn't look right, either.
>
> i guess i was about a 1/4 mile away when i realized it was a rather
> large wild turkey, calmly walking along the shoulder of the
> interstate....
Wild turkeys are not at all uncommon here in suburbia, including along
the parkway (the interstate, at least along my route, doesn't go through
an appropriate habitat).
>
> --barry "coyotes around here, too"
No coyotes, that I've noticed. But I did see a fox two blocks from my
house, just running across a lawn.
--
AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
--artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 17:30:14
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:19:04 -0400, Alice Faber <afaber@panix.com >
wrote:
>In article <djpse21o8nrqbd9bgni4ltta5lg7651oj6@4ax.com>,
> Barry Jarrett <barry@rileys-coffee.com> wrote:
>
>> so about three weeks ago, i'm on my way to work, driving up I-55/70
>> near fairmont city, just east of east st. louis, and about a mile
up i
>> see something/someone walking along the shoulder of the highway. as
i
>> got closer, it was obviously too small to be a person, and it
didn't
>> move like a person. my next thought was that it was a dog trotting
>> along, but, no, that didn't look right, either.
>>
>> i guess i was about a 1/4 mile away when i realized it was a rather
>> large wild turkey, calmly walking along the shoulder of the
>> interstate....
>
>Wild turkeys are not at all uncommon here in suburbia, including
along
>the parkway (the interstate, at least along my route, doesn't go
through
>an appropriate habitat).
>>
>> --barry "coyotes around here, too"
>
>No coyotes, that I've noticed. But I did see a fox two blocks from my
>house, just running across a lawn.
We have wild turkeys along the road here in Kona. They are amazing.
We wonder what they eat to sustain themselves; they look so reptilian,
they do not mix with the wild chickens --they are weird and
interesting. The group is about 12.
We have wld dogs here also along the road...but my vet said that give
a turkey about 50 feet and it will be above the dogs.
aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 19:50:17
From: Vicki Robinson
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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In a previous article, Alice Faber <afaber@panix.com > said:
>> --barry "coyotes around here, too"
>
>No coyotes, that I've noticed. But I did see a fox two blocks from my
>house, just running across a lawn.
We've got coyotes, wild turkeys and foxes, not to mention deer galore.
Vicki
--
"Penetrating so many secrets we cease to believe in the unknowable.
But there it sits, nevertheless, calmly licking its chops."
- H. L. Mencken
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 20:08:04
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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When's hunting season open? Deer & turkey, must be Heaven! The feral pigs
are running the indigenous stock off at my deer lease. :(
--
Robert (Filet of Bambi, roast wild turkey, sweet potato pie, & a pot of
great coffee. Mmmmmm) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
"Vicki Robinson" <vjrnts@xcski.com > wrote in message
news:ecq8lp$apk$1@allhats.xcski.com...
> In a previous article, Alice Faber <afaber@panix.com> said:
>
>>> --barry "coyotes around here, too"
>>
>>No coyotes, that I've noticed. But I did see a fox two blocks from my
>>house, just running across a lawn.
>
> We've got coyotes, wild turkeys and foxes, not to mention deer galore.
>
> Vicki
> --
> "Penetrating so many secrets we cease to believe in the unknowable.
> But there it sits, nevertheless, calmly licking its chops."
> - H. L. Mencken
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 12:38:43
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:08:04 GMT, "Robert Harmon"
<r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote:
>When's hunting season open? Deer & turkey, must be Heaven! The feral
pigs
>are running the indigenous stock off at my deer lease. :(
Same kind of pigs here.FYI The Hawaiians brought pigs to Hawaii during
their great (canoe!) migration to Hawaii from whence they came and
some of those got loose and then Capt Cook in 1778 brought domestic
pigs and some of them ran off, so we have a mix but they are
definitely feral and a big nuisance.
aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 01:06:04
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:38:43 -1000, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>Same kind of pigs here.FYI The Hawaiians brought pigs to Hawaii during
>their great (canoe!) migration to Hawaii from whence they came and
>some of those got loose and then Capt Cook in 1778 brought domestic
>pigs and some of them ran off, so we have a mix but they are
>definitely feral and a big nuisance.
Hiking in Kokee we came across a couple of pheasant.
Talk about looking out of place...the bird I mean.
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 16:42:03
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:06:04 GMT, Steve <not@use.net > wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:38:43 -1000, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>
>>Same kind of pigs here.FYI The Hawaiians brought pigs to Hawaii
during
>>their great (canoe!) migration to Hawaii from whence they came and
>>some of those got loose and then Capt Cook in 1778 brought domestic
>>pigs and some of them ran off, so we have a mix but they are
>>definitely feral and a big nuisance.
>
>Hiking in Kokee we came across a couple of pheasant.
>Talk about looking out of place...the bird I mean.
Oh we should probably take this discussion to another venue like
<alt.natural surrounding-if there be such an animal > because we are
totally into nature but I have an explanation for the pheasant in
Kokee as unimaginable as it seems. We have people, even here in
Honaunau, that raised game birds, and then set them loose. Many were
hunters wanting to increase their odds:( but this one happened to be a
psychiatrist I know. He raised ring necks pheasants from eggs. And
then he would let them go. I don't think he was a hunter, he just
liked the challenge of raising them.
We used to see a few ring necks walking cautiously through our land
and it was always a real thrill. We hadn't seen any for about 5 years
and then about 10 days ago, I looked out and there was a ring neck
pheasant without his tail feathers (it is their molt now) and he was
walking cautiously through our back yard. What a thrill to see that
beautiful bird! Apparently the psychiatrist gave up raising them,
according to local gossip, so that's why there are so few. I do not
think any coffee farmer would shoot a ring neck or any other bird.
aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 03:33:43
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:42:03 -1000, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:06:04 GMT, Steve <not@use.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:38:43 -1000, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>>
>>>Same kind of pigs here.FYI The Hawaiians brought pigs to Hawaii
>during
>>>their great (canoe!) migration to Hawaii from whence they came and
>>>some of those got loose and then Capt Cook in 1778 brought domestic
>>>pigs and some of them ran off, so we have a mix but they are
>>>definitely feral and a big nuisance.
>>
>>Hiking in Kokee we came across a couple of pheasant.
>>Talk about looking out of place...the bird I mean.
>
>Oh we should probably take this discussion to another venue like
><alt.natural surrounding-if there be such an animal> because we are
>totally into nature but I have an explanation for the pheasant in
>Kokee as unimaginable as it seems.
Yeah, but interesting none the less.
We have people, even here in
>Honaunau, that raised game birds, and then set them loose. Many were
>hunters wanting to increase their odds:( but this one happened to be a
>psychiatrist I know. He raised ring necks pheasants from eggs. And
>then he would let them go. I don't think he was a hunter, he just
>liked the challenge of raising them.
>
>We used to see a few ring necks walking cautiously through our land
>and it was always a real thrill. We hadn't seen any for about 5 years
>and then about 10 days ago, I looked out and there was a ring neck
>pheasant without his tail feathers (it is their molt now) and he was
>walking cautiously through our back yard. What a thrill to see that
>beautiful bird! Apparently the psychiatrist gave up raising them,
>according to local gossip, so that's why there are so few. I do not
>think any coffee farmer would shoot a ring neck or any other bird.
>
>aloha,
>Cea
> --smithfarms.com
>farmers of pure kona
>roast beans to kona to email
I'm vegan and a Californian.
We don't shoot animals...we save our ammo for the freeways.
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 08:33:13
From: bernie digman
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
> Same kind of pigs here.FYI The Hawaiians brought pigs to Hawaii during
> their great (canoe!) migration to Hawaii from whence they came and
> some of those got loose and then Capt Cook in 1778 brought domestic
> pigs and some of them ran off, so we have a mix but they are
> definitely feral and a big nuisance.
>
> aloha,
> Cea
> --smithfarms.com
> farmers of pure kona
> roast beans to kona to email
We elect our pigs to public office. Okay, I'll stop there.
Bernie
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 21:16:19
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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"Barry Jarrett" <barry@rileys-coffee.com > wrote in message
news:djpse21o8nrqbd9bgni4ltta5lg7651oj6@4ax.com...
>
> so about three weeks ago, i'm on my way to work, driving up I-55/70
> near fairmont city, just east of east st. louis, and about a mile up i
> see something/someone walking along the shoulder of the highway. as i
> got closer, it was obviously too small to be a person, and it didn't
> move like a person. my next thought was that it was a dog trotting
> along, but, no, that didn't look right, either.
>
> i guess i was about a 1/4 mile away when i realized it was a rather
> large wild turkey, calmly walking along the shoulder of the
> interstate....
>
> --barry "coyotes around here, too"
Was it the 80 or 101 proof variety?
ken
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 03:35:13
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:16:19 -0600, "Ken Fox"
<morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com > wrote:
>Was it the 80 or 101 proof variety?
those litter the highway a couple of miles to the west, in washington
park.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 14:53:45
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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In alt.coffee, Barry Jarrett <barry@rileys-coffee.com > wrote:
> i guess i was about a 1/4 mile away when i realized it was a rather
> large wild turkey, calmly walking along the shoulder of the
> interstate....
We used to have a family of them which passed through our back yard
occasionally. And last week, I saw two of them by the side of the road.
All in a town which borders Boston proper.
It got me to thinking about how nicely they might roast up...
--
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
--Edward R. Murrow
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 05:41:43
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:53:45 +0000 (UTC), EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com
wrote:
>In alt.coffee, Barry Jarrett <barry@rileys-coffee.com> wrote:
>
>> i guess i was about a 1/4 mile away when i realized it was a rather
>> large wild turkey, calmly walking along the shoulder of the
>> interstate....
>
>We used to have a family of them which passed through our back yard
>occasionally. And last week, I saw two of them by the side of the
road.
>All in a town which borders Boston proper.
>
>It got me to thinking about how nicely they might roast up...
I have heard from local hunter types that wild turkeys are not tasty
and they are skinny. Lots of engineering (ouch!) went into the
Thanksgiving types.
aloha,
cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 15:07:35
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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In article <oe6ue2ptq4uavu40sohti6jaijhi9isps7@4ax.com >,
beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:53:45 +0000 (UTC), EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com
> wrote:
>
> >In alt.coffee, Barry Jarrett <barry@rileys-coffee.com> wrote:
> >
> >> i guess i was about a 1/4 mile away when i realized it was a rather
> >> large wild turkey, calmly walking along the shoulder of the
> >> interstate....
> >
> >We used to have a family of them which passed through our back yard
> >occasionally. And last week, I saw two of them by the side of the
> road.
> >All in a town which borders Boston proper.
> >
> >It got me to thinking about how nicely they might roast up...
>
> I have heard from local hunter types that wild turkeys are not tasty
> and they are skinny. Lots of engineering (ouch!) went into the
> Thanksgiving types.
>
> aloha,
> cea
> --smithfarms.com
> farmers of pure kona
> roast beans to kona to email
I would beg to disagree with your local hunters. While wild turkey is
certainly not as fat as store bought, it also isn't injected with
whatever that the turkey purveyors choose to use.
I find wild turkey, both kinds, to be delicious.
Lloyd
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 12:04:23
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:07:35 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:
>In article <oe6ue2ptq4uavu40sohti6jaijhi9isps7@4ax.com>,
> beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:53:45 +0000 (UTC),
EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com
>> wrote:
>I would beg to disagree with your local hunters. While wild turkey
is
>certainly not as fat as store bought, it also isn't injected with
>whatever that the turkey purveyors choose to use.
>
>I find wild turkey, both kinds, to be delicious.
>
>Lloyd
Lloyd, I don't know you nor your tastes. I know quite a few local
hunters so you and I disagree. I also personally can not stand the
taste of our wild pigs. Many people share that. I also know a few
people who will cook them in the ground (imu) and claim they taste
great. We have an severe wild pig over population and they ruin our
farm nightly so too bad they are so nasty in flavor. If you shoot a
pig which Bob does from time to time, we are fortunate to have a
neighbor who has an imu. Some people do not shoot the wild pigs
simply because it is so difficult to render a 100 pound animal, or
even to dig a hole deep enough. It's wild out there.
aloha,
cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 17:22:51
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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In article <hksue2hq3tg2b33dde2hb18dee8tgln6kf@4ax.com >,
beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:07:35 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <oe6ue2ptq4uavu40sohti6jaijhi9isps7@4ax.com>,
> > beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:53:45 +0000 (UTC),
> EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com
> >> wrote:
>
> >I would beg to disagree with your local hunters. While wild turkey
> is
> >certainly not as fat as store bought, it also isn't injected with
> >whatever that the turkey purveyors choose to use.
> >
> >I find wild turkey, both kinds, to be delicious.
> >
> >Lloyd
>
> Lloyd, I don't know you nor your tastes. I know quite a few local
> hunters so you and I disagree. I also personally can not stand the
> taste of our wild pigs. Many people share that. I also know a few
> people who will cook them in the ground (imu) and claim they taste
> great. We have an severe wild pig over population and they ruin our
> farm nightly so too bad they are so nasty in flavor. If you shoot a
> pig which Bob does from time to time, we are fortunate to have a
> neighbor who has an imu. Some people do not shoot the wild pigs
> simply because it is so difficult to render a 100 pound animal, or
> even to dig a hole deep enough. It's wild out there.
>
> aloha,
> cea
>
Cea, it certainly could be differences in our tastes. I was raised in a
family who hunted and fished, so wild game was a big part of our diet.
And wild game certainly has a different taste than farm raised.
It could also be what the wild turkeys and pigs are eating there. Their
diet certainly affects the taste of the meat.
I've hunted and eaten duck, geese, deer, rabbits, squirrels and wild pig
in a number of states and enjoyed most of them. I've never eaten any
wild game in Hawaii as hunting wasn't part of the touristy things
offered! ;-)
I'm reminded of the first wild duck I tried. I thought it was horrible!
It was years before I would try wild duck again, but I'm glad I did.
That first duck was from a salt water marsh and that was a very
different flavor from the ducks here in the midwest.
Lloyd
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 14:12:17
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:22:51 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:
>In article <hksue2hq3tg2b33dde2hb18dee8tgln6kf@4ax.com>,
> beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:07:35 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
>> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <oe6ue2ptq4uavu40sohti6jaijhi9isps7@4ax.com>,
>> > beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:53:45 +0000 (UTC),
>> EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com
>> >> wrote:
>>
>>
>Cea, it certainly could be differences in our tastes. I was raised
in a
>family who hunted and fished, so wild game was a big part of our
diet.
>And wild game certainly has a different taste than farm raised.
>
>It could also be what the wild turkeys and pigs are eating there.
Their
>diet certainly affects the taste of the meat.
>
>I've hunted and eaten duck, geese, deer, rabbits, squirrels and wild
pig
>in a number of states and enjoyed most of them. I've never eaten any
>wild game in Hawaii as hunting wasn't part of the touristy things
>offered! ;-)
>
>I'm reminded of the first wild duck I tried. I thought it was
horrible!
>It was years before I would try wild duck again, but I'm glad I did.
>That first duck was from a salt water marsh and that was a very
>different flavor from the ducks here in the midwest.
>
>Lloyd
OT: Next time you want to visit, let me know:) and bring your gun.
Yikes that sounds so mean. Rural Hawaii is very much a hunting place.
We do have a 12 gauge that Bob uses when the timing works well. As I
said, we have a neighbor who comes and gets them happily and cooks
them in an imu.
The wild pigs here eat avocados, tree ferns and our nemesis --our
macadamia nuts. (You can hear them crunching Macadamias in the night
like a concussion going off.) My vet says that boar will lose his
teeth before his time if he keeps doing that. (I'm kind of hopeful.)
But they have ruined parts of our farm. I saw huge wallow areas just
this morning. To Bob's amazement, one boar, is so grouchy that he is
tearing off anything he can find, even young coffee plants. According
to our vet, he thinks the boar just gets in a rage and tears at
anything. (Stupid dogs do try to take on those boars and lose or get
torn up.) It is a big ongoing problem and we've personally cut down
90% of our Macadamias just to try and deter them. It's get rid of the
Macadamias or put a fence around our 5 acres but that is too
expensive.
Bob has shot 5 this year within 150 yards of our house. Last week it
was a sow and 6 of her almost teenaged kids at 10:30 am about 50 yards
from our back door but he didn't get them. (Of course I am in the
background telling him to be sure the babies can make it on their
own:). Crazy.).
People used to hunt an awful lot in Hawaii as it is a real part of our
culture, but now as the touristy jobs get popular, people hunt less,
the pigs are braver and on and on.
Now wild turkeys would be too easy to get and they are just so
interesting to watch as they decide where to go.Bobbing along. As
Craig A pointed out the turkeys do sleep in trees in low lying
branches big enough to support them, but they don't do anything bad
afaik.
Enough nature stories from me. It is a gorgeous day in South Kona and
just to stay On Topic for the group, the green coffee beans out there
are glistening in the sun after many days of rain.
aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 03:13:32
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:12:17 -1000, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>torn up.) It is a big ongoing problem and we've personally cut down
>90% of our Macadamias just to try and deter them.
AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
--barry "the horror"
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 16:44:51
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 03:13:32 GMT, Barry Jarrett
<barry@rileys-coffee.com > wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:12:17 -1000, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>
> >torn up.) It is a big ongoing problem and we've personally cut
down
> >90% of our Macadamias just to try and deter them.
>
>AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
>
>--barry "the horror"
My BIL, about 2.5 hours away, is a dedicated Macadamia nut farmer and
his Macadamias are awesome. We will be picking up the new season's
first batch next Wednesday. Don't lose heart Barry:)
aloha to all Jarretts,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 11:36:07
From: Sheldon T. Hall - DO NOT MAIL
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:44:51 -1000, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 03:13:32 GMT, Barry Jarrett
><barry@rileys-coffee.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:12:17 -1000, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>>
>> >torn up.) It is a big ongoing problem and we've personally cut
>down
>> >90% of our Macadamias just to try and deter them.
>>
>>AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
>>
>>--barry "the horror"
>
>My BIL, about 2.5 hours away, is a dedicated Macadamia nut farmer and
>his Macadamias are awesome. We will be picking up the new season's
>first batch next Wednesday. Don't lose heart Barry:)
There was an article in the paper here about the Mac Nut Glut, and
about how some of the processors had told the growers they wouldn't be
buying any nuts this year, as they already had enough.
It also said that the farmer gets about US$0.60 per pound for a
product that sells for over $20.00 per pound in the stores. It sounds
like the nut farmers have the same deal as coffee farmers - a bad one.
-Shel
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 09:03:56
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:36:07 -0700, Sheldon T. Hall - DO NOT MAIL
<aquaman@tandem.artell.net > wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:44:51 -1000, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 03:13:32 GMT, Barry Jarrett
>><barry@rileys-coffee.com> wrote:
>>
>There was an article in the paper here about the Mac Nut Glut, and
>about how some of the processors had told the growers they wouldn't
be
>buying any nuts this year, as they already had enough.
>
>It also said that the farmer gets about US$0.60 per pound for a
>product that sells for over $20.00 per pound in the stores. It
sounds
>like the nut farmers have the same deal as coffee farmers - a bad
one.
>
>-Shel
>
You know, Bob and I don't get it. What you cited was true & we've
heard the same thing. The big grower, Mac Farms, is not buying
because they already have so many or so they say. That does indeed
hurt the independent farmers who depended on them. In Macadamias
there is a big quality control issue after harvesting, much more than
coffee. You can try your best to get all perfect tasting Macadamias
but often there is a bad tasting one. So it is very labor intensive
after they are harvested. My BIL is a small farmer and sells to us
and about one other place. He has total control and a small healthy
crop. (I also think his are really the tastiest without bias as they
are fresh, crisp and a bigger size than what I see Mac Farms selling
in Wal-Mart or COSTCO here.)
We really don't know the bottom line on why MacFarms isn't buying from
independent farmers as they have in the past. MacFarms has enormous
acerage of their own but who knows.
aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 16:14:43
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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<beans@smithfarms.com > wrote in message
news:hksue2hq3tg2b33dde2hb18dee8tgln6kf@4ax.com...
>Some people do not shoot the wild pigs
> simply because it is so difficult to render a 100 pound animal, or
> even to dig a hole deep enough. It's wild out there.
>
> aloha,
> cea
>
> --smithfarms.com
> farmers of pure kona
> roast beans to kona to email
Cea, you could try what works for a friend of mine. He says all you have to
do is put anything outside the dumpster in front of his condo building, with
a sign on it that says "free," and it will be gone in 5 minutes. We did
this with an old big nonfunctioning tv of mine a while back and it DOES
work. Do you have a dumpster visible from the road? You could attach the
note to the pig's snout with a safety pin.
ken
;-)
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 14:36:19
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote in message
news:lloydparsons-C42D2D.15073525082006@individual.net...
>
> I find wild turkey, both kinds, to be delicious.
>
> Lloyd
which is your favorite, the 80 or the 100 proof?
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 16:38:43
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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In article <4l95dnFsn1fU1@individual.net >,
"Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com > wrote:
> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:lloydparsons-C42D2D.15073525082006@individual.net...
>
> >
> > I find wild turkey, both kinds, to be delicious.
> >
> > Lloyd
>
> which is your favorite, the 80 or the 100 proof?
OK, then -- 3 kinds! ;-)
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 12:16:11
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:38:43 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:
>In article <4l95dnFsn1fU1@individual.net>,
> "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>> news:lloydparsons-C42D2D.15073525082006@individual.net...
>>
>> >
>> > I find wild turkey, both kinds, to be delicious.
>> >
>> > Lloyd
>>
>> which is your favorite, the 80 or the 100 proof?
>
>OK, then -- 3 kinds! ;-)
Sorry Lloyd, I meant to preface my previous post by saying that we
might have a different species of Turkey from you. Whatever we have
here was brought here for some reason (turkeys can't fly nor swim 2800
miles) so it may not be what you have there.
My post went zipping out after accidentally pressing the wrong
button:<(.
aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 17:26:53
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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In article <uftue2trnj180cunp2vvfevu44q8a9ossg@4ax.com >,
beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:38:43 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <4l95dnFsn1fU1@individual.net>,
> > "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> news:lloydparsons-C42D2D.15073525082006@individual.net...
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I find wild turkey, both kinds, to be delicious.
> >> >
> >> > Lloyd
> >>
> >> which is your favorite, the 80 or the 100 proof?
> >
> >OK, then -- 3 kinds! ;-)
>
> Sorry Lloyd, I meant to preface my previous post by saying that we
> might have a different species of Turkey from you. Whatever we have
> here was brought here for some reason (turkeys can't fly nor swim 2800
> miles) so it may not be what you have there.
>
> My post went zipping out after accidentally pressing the wrong
> button:<(.
>
> aloha,
> Cea
Cea, no harm, no foul. Your previous post was certainly fine enough.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 18:24:45
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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<beans@smithfarms.com > wrote in message
news:uftue2trnj180cunp2vvfevu44q8a9ossg@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:38:43 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <4l95dnFsn1fU1@individual.net>,
>> "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>>> news:lloydparsons-C42D2D.15073525082006@individual.net...
>>>
>>> >
>>> > I find wild turkey, both kinds, to be delicious.
>>> >
>>> > Lloyd
>>>
>>> which is your favorite, the 80 or the 100 proof?
>>
>>OK, then -- 3 kinds! ;-)
>
> Sorry Lloyd, I meant to preface my previous post by saying that we
> might have a different species of Turkey from you. Whatever we have
> here was brought here for some reason (turkeys can't fly nor swim 2800
> miles) so it may not be what you have there.
>
> My post went zipping out after accidentally pressing the wrong
> button:<(.
>
> aloha,
> Cea
> --smithfarms.com
> farmers of pure kona
> roast beans to kona to email
Any wild Turkey I know can fly. {:-)
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2004-01%2CGGLD%3Aen&q=+Wild+Turkey&btnG=Search
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2004-01%2CGGLD%3Aen&q=+American+Wild+Turkey&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-01,GGLD:en&q=%20American%20Wild%20Turkey&btnG=Search&sa=N&tab=iw
Craig
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 19:16:56
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote in message
news:4l9bmtFt7ieU1@individual.net...
>
> <beans@smithfarms.com> wrote in message
> news:uftue2trnj180cunp2vvfevu44q8a9ossg@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:38:43 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
>> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <4l95dnFsn1fU1@individual.net>,
>>> "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:lloydparsons-C42D2D.15073525082006@individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I find wild turkey, both kinds, to be delicious.
>>>> >
>>>> > Lloyd
>>>>
>>>> which is your favorite, the 80 or the 100 proof?
>>>
>>>OK, then -- 3 kinds! ;-)
>>
>> Sorry Lloyd, I meant to preface my previous post by saying that we
>> might have a different species of Turkey from you. Whatever we have
>> here was brought here for some reason (turkeys can't fly nor swim
>> 2800
>> miles) so it may not be what you have there.
>>
>> My post went zipping out after accidentally pressing the wrong
>> button:<(.
>>
>> aloha,
>> Cea
>> --smithfarms.com
>> farmers of pure kona
>> roast beans to kona to email
>
>
> Any wild Turkey I know can fly. {:-)
>
> http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2004-01%2CGGLD%3Aen&q=+Wild+Turkey&btnG=Search
>
> http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2004-01%2CGGLD%3Aen&q=+American+Wild+Turkey&btnG=Search
>
> http://www.google.com/search?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-01,GGLD:en&q=%20American%20Wild%20Turkey&btnG=Search&sa=N&tab=iw
>
> Craig
Didn't look till now, but on the 3rd link;
Wild turkeys (Meleagris gallopavo) live in woods in parts of North
America and are the largest game birds found in this part of the world.
They spend their days foraging for food like acorns, seeds, small
insects and wild berries. They spend their nights in low branches of
trees (yes, wild turkeys can fly!).
Craig "gobble gobble"A.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 19:27:47
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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In alt.coffee, beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
> >
> >It got me to thinking about how nicely they might roast up...
> I have heard from local hunter types that wild turkeys are not tasty
> and they are skinny. Lots of engineering (ouch!) went into the
> Thanksgiving types.
That makes perfect sense.
--
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
--Edward R. Murrow
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Date: 31 Aug 2006 04:51:29
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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i had to drive around a wild turkey on the entrance ramp to the
interstate this evening. if i'd been in the cruiser, it might have
been turkey dinner, but i didn't think the mgb was up to the task.
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Date: 31 Aug 2006 06:03:03
From:
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:51:29 GMT, Barry Jarrett
<barry@rileys-coffee.com > wrote:
>
>i had to drive around a wild turkey on the entrance ramp to the
>interstate this evening. if i'd been in the cruiser, it might have
>been turkey dinner, but i didn't think the mgb was up to the task.
The turkey thanks you, Barry.
aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 06:58:47
From: Robster
Subject: Re: Well Duhhhh!
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Have a double-shot of Wild Turkey and you'd have enuf of a swerve to miss
it. :0
I ran over one in a dense fog on the way home from the inlaws one night.
Appeared in the
middle of the road while I was creeping along at about 10 mph. I swerved
and
slammed on the brakes and heard the guy b'hind me lock his brakes up as
well. Said to m'self,
heck with THAT (only stronger language), lined up and hit the gas. It only
bent my front license plate when I tagged that sucker.
Shoulda went back and picked him up for Thanksgiving dinner. Heck, they
cross
the road a lot during the fall, should cruise by again next month.
~Robt~
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