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Date: 02 Jul 2006 08:44:06
From: BoyntonStu
Subject: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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Brew coffee and place the brew chamber on an hinged arm with an equal
weight opposite,
Spin a minute.
All the oils should be on top and all the fines and grounds at the
bottom.
I am sure that I am not the first to think of this.
Has anyone tried it?
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Date: 02 Jul 2006 15:59:12
From: Randy R
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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"BoyntonStu" <stu@aaronj.com > wrote in message
news:1151855046.281379.34600@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Brew coffee and place the brew chamber on an hinged arm with an equal
> weight opposite,
>
> Spin a minute.
>
> All the oils should be on top and all the fines and grounds at the
> bottom.
>
>
> I am sure that I am not the first to think of this.
>
>
> Has anyone tried it?
>
Search alt.coffee on Google groups:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.coffee/search?group=alt.coffee&q=centrifuge&qt_g=1&searchnow=Search+this+group
http://tinyurl.com/fjw34
Your idea might be different from other centrifuge ideas in the past though.
Randy R
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Date: 03 Jul 2006 01:59:25
From: Andy Schecter
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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Randy R wrote:
> Search alt.coffee on Google groups:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.coffee/search?group=alt.coffee&q=centrifuge&qt_g=1&searchnow=Search+this+group
> http://tinyurl.com/fjw34
> Your idea might be different from other centrifuge ideas in the past though.
Or google alt.coffee for the words "spin express"
--
-Andy S.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_s/sets/
http://tinyurl.com/eh0x
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Date: 02 Jul 2006 23:07:58
From: Simpson
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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In article <1S_pg.59442$3B.38109@twister.nyroc.rr.com >,
schecter@remove.me.rochester.rr.com says...
> Randy R wrote:
> > Search alt.coffee on Google groups:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.coffee/search?group=alt.coffee&q=centrifuge&qt_g=1&searchnow=Search+this+group
> > http://tinyurl.com/fjw34
> > Your idea might be different from other centrifuge ideas in the past though.
>
> Or google alt.coffee for the words "spin express"
>
>
Or 'paint' and 'kitchen'
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Date: 07 Jul 2006 15:35:16
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 01:59:25 GMT, Andy Schecter
<schecter@remove.me.rochester.rr.com > wrote:
>Randy R wrote:
>> Search alt.coffee on Google groups:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.coffee/search?group=alt.coffee&q=centrifuge&qt_g=1&searchnow=Search+this+group
>> http://tinyurl.com/fjw34
>> Your idea might be different from other centrifuge ideas in the past though.
>
>Or google alt.coffee for the words "spin express"
or "bosch" or "seimens"
--barry "or is it 'siemens'?"
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Date: 08 Jul 2006 05:23:09
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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Barry Jarrett <barry@rileys-coffee.com > wrote:
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Date: 08 Jul 2006 06:36:49
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 05:23:09 GMT, ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D.
Ross) wrote:
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 04:16:18
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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Barry Jarrett <barry@rileys-coffee.com > wrote:
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Date: 02 Jul 2006 08:50:30
From:
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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BoyntonStu wrote:
> Brew coffee and place the brew chamber on an hinged arm with an equal
> weight opposite,
>
> Spin a minute.
>
> All the oils should be on top and all the fines and grounds at the
> bottom.
>
> I am sure that I am not the first to think of this.
>
> Has anyone tried it?
BoyntonStu,
I got to give it to you for thinking out of the box, but your concept
is really extreme and bizarre. I really do not think it is doable.
The oils need to be remixed into the liquid for the coffee to be
balanced AND drinkable, and the grounds STILL are in the liquid, not
separated by a barrier. When pouring off the liquid you will still get
grounds in the mix.
You don't happen to be a Chemist by trade?
Marty
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Date: 02 Jul 2006 15:18:43
From: Dan Bollinger
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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> I got to give it to you for thinking out of the box, but your concept
> is really extreme and bizarre. I really do not think it is doable.
> The oils need to be remixed into the liquid for the coffee to be
> balanced AND drinkable, and the grounds STILL are in the liquid, not
> separated by a barrier. When pouring off the liquid you will still get
> grounds in the mix.
Yes. And, it isn't such a problem as you say. What you are creating by
centrifuging is sediment. Given time, wine casts off sediment, too. While it CAN
mix back in (no barrier) if you pour slowly and carefully you can decant wine
without disturbing the sediment. I imagine you could do that with centrifuged
coffee, too. No?
Dan
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Date: 02 Jul 2006 18:37:45
From:
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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Dan Bollinger wrote:
> Yes. And, it isn't such a problem as you say. What you are creating by
> centrifuging is sediment. Given time, wine casts off sediment, too. While it CAN
> mix back in (no barrier) if you pour slowly and carefully you can decant wine
> without disturbing the sediment. I imagine you could do that with centrifuged
> coffee, too. No?
It isn't hard to conceive of a centrifugal filter that also decants
from just "above" the sediment. It might even be possible to create a
mechanism or optical system that detects the sediment level and
automatically adjusts the decanting.
I've been wondering much the same thing for quite a while, but I think
it would take a lot of tinkering to come up with something that would
work in a consumer market.
--
Scott
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Date: 02 Jul 2006 14:02:04
From:
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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BoyntonStu wrote:
> martyminor11@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Physicist.
>
> A spin should produce a 'puck' that will not pour.
>
> When you pour, the oils and the liquid will mix.
>
> In addition, a 'smart' vessel with a solids trap can be designed,
> (perhaps harder to clean).
>
> Stu
OK. I understand the puck thing. However, what advantage would this
essentially complicated process bring to coffee brewing, that has not
already been addressed by drip or French Press? Or other methods, for
that matter.
Marty
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Date: 02 Jul 2006 17:27:57
From: St. John Smythe
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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martyminor11@yahoo.com wrote:
> OK. I understand the puck thing. However, what advantage would this
> essentially complicated process bring to coffee brewing, that has not
> already been addressed by drip or French Press? Or other methods, for
> that matter.
It makes the "two cups and a filter" technique look good in comparison.
--
St. John
Jones' Law:
The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone
to blame it on.
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Date: 02 Jul 2006 17:04:13
From: Dan Bollinger
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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> OK. I understand the puck thing. However, what advantage would this
> essentially complicated process bring to coffee brewing, that has not
> already been addressed by drip or French Press? Or other methods, for
> that matter.
>
> Marty
Besides cooling the coffee to room temperature? ;)
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Date: 02 Jul 2006 16:31:05
From: DougW
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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Dan Bollinger did pass the time by typing:
>> OK. I understand the puck thing. However, what advantage would this
>> essentially complicated process bring to coffee brewing, that has not
>> already been addressed by drip or French Press? Or other methods, for
>> that matter.
>>
>> Marty
>
> Besides cooling the coffee to room temperature? ;)
Sedimentation tank, but that only works for the 30 gallon percolators. :)
--
DougW
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Date: 02 Jul 2006 12:09:38
From: BoyntonStu
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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martyminor11@yahoo.com wrote:
> BoyntonStu wrote:
> > Brew coffee and place the brew chamber on an hinged arm with an equal
> > weight opposite,
> >
> > Spin a minute.
> >
> > All the oils should be on top and all the fines and grounds at the
> > bottom.
> >
> > I am sure that I am not the first to think of this.
> >
> > Has anyone tried it?
>
> BoyntonStu,
>
> I got to give it to you for thinking out of the box, but your concept
> is really extreme and bizarre. I really do not think it is doable.
> The oils need to be remixed into the liquid for the coffee to be
> balanced AND drinkable, and the grounds STILL are in the liquid, not
> separated by a barrier. When pouring off the liquid you will still get
> grounds in the mix.
>
> You don't happen to be a Chemist by trade?
> Marty
\
Marty,
Physicist.
A spin should produce a 'puck' that will not pour.
When you pour, the oils and the liquid will mix.
In addition, a 'smart' vessel with a solids trap can be designed,
(perhaps harder to clean).
Stu
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Date: 03 Jul 2006 08:31:22
From:
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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Dan Bollinger wrote:
> > OK. I understand the puck thing. However, what advantage would this
> > essentially complicated process bring to coffee brewing, that has not
> > already been addressed by drip or French Press? Or other methods, for
> > that matter.
> >
> > Marty
>
> Besides cooling the coffee to room temperature? ;)
Yeah. The spinning centrifuge would act as its own fan ... get it
going fast enough, who knows, you may get icicles on the ends of the
centrifuge tubes.
Marty
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Date: 03 Jul 2006 14:35:56
From: Dan Bollinger
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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> Yeah. The spinning centrifuge would act as its own fan ... get it
> going fast enough, who knows, you may get icicles on the ends of the
> centrifuge tubes.
>
> Marty
Certainly spinning would accelerate the inevitable cooling to room temperature.
Dan
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Date: 03 Jul 2006 18:38:13
From: dcrehr
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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Google for SpinEspress and you'll get at least one long thread on the
little "espresso" machine that uses this principle.
Not really espresso, but more like a moka pot. Uses a spinning chamber
to force water through the grounds.
An interesting product.
DR
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Date: 05 Jul 2006 20:10:59
From: bizbee
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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On 2 Jul 2006 08:44:06 -0700 in
<1151855046.281379.34600@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >, "BoyntonStu"
<stu@aaronj.com > graced the world with this thought:
>Brew coffee and place the brew chamber on an hinged arm with an equal
>weight opposite,
>
>Spin a minute.
>
>All the oils should be on top and all the fines and grounds at the
>bottom.
>
>
>I am sure that I am not the first to think of this.
>
>
>Has anyone tried it?
Hell yeah, that's a lot more practicle than just running it through a
filter... and who doesn't need yet another piece of equipment to buy
and store?
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Date: 07 Jul 2006 09:11:37
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Why not Centrifuge to filter?
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Barry Jarrett wrote:
> --barry "or is it 'siemens'?"
Or is it "semens?" I guess not, flavored coffee not being a big thing
on AC....
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