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Date: 06 Jun 2006 01:22:47
From: Dan
Subject: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!


So - I went to prepare my usual morning espresso today, and as I
flicked the grinder switch - nothing, not a sound, great, it was fine
yesterday!

I checked it was plugged in, and it was, shame it's not a detachable
power cord so I could rule that out.

It's about 4.5 years old now - so relatively young.. wonder whats up
with it??


Daniel.





 
Date: 06 Jun 2006 10:03:53
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!


That's cool,

the switch or the capacitor -- switch more likely.

dave


Dan wrote:
> daveb wrote:
> > " your grinder"
> >
> > what make -- model?????
> >
> > dave
> >
>
> Blast it - I coulda been sure i mentioned it was a Gaggia MDF!!
>
> big duh for me...



 
Date: 06 Jun 2006 06:55:30
From: Dan
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!



daveb wrote:
> " your grinder"
>
> what make -- model?????
>
> dave
>

Blast it - I coulda been sure i mentioned it was a Gaggia MDF!!

big duh for me...



  
Date: 06 Jun 2006 08:43:41
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!


"Dan" <daniel_roach@hotmail.com > wrote:

>
>daveb wrote:
>> " your grinder"
>>
>> what make -- model?????
>>
>> dave
>>
>
>Blast it - I coulda been sure i mentioned it was a Gaggia MDF!!
>
>big duh for me...
>

As was mentioned, I would suspect the switch. If you are comfortable
working around electricity, bypass the switch and then plug in the
grinder, or just test the switch with an ohm meter.


Randy "an electrifying experience" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




  
Date: 06 Jun 2006 20:12:10
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!


Dan wrote:
> daveb wrote:
>
>>" your grinder"
>>
>>what make -- model?????
>>
>>dave
>>
>
>
> Blast it - I coulda been sure i mentioned it was a Gaggia MDF!!
>
> big duh for me...
>

switch or start capacitor

--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
swap Z for above characters in email address to reply



 
Date: 06 Jun 2006 05:24:15
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!


" your grinder"

what make -- model?????

dave




Dan wrote:
> So - I went to prepare my usual morning espresso today, and as I
> flicked the grinder switch - nothing, not a sound, great, it was fine
> yesterday!
>
> I checked it was plugged in, and it was, shame it's not a detachable
> power cord so I could rule that out.
>
> It's about 4.5 years old now - so relatively young.. wonder whats up
> with it??
>
>
> Daniel.



 
Date: 06 Jun 2006 05:00:56
From: Dan
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!



Carmen wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> > So - I went to prepare my usual morning espresso today, and as I
> > flicked the grinder switch - nothing, not a sound, great, it was fine
> > yesterday!
>
> It's easiest to check the simple stuff first, so have you checked to
> ensure the outlet is good by trying the grinder in another outlet?
> Depending on how your outlets are wired with GFCIs, make sure you take
> a trip down to the fuse box and ensure no breakers are tripped.
>

yep - the pluf socket is fine - I checked my espresso nachine on there..



  
Date: 06 Jun 2006 10:08:19
From: David Williams
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!


Dan wrote:
> Carmen wrote:
>> Dan wrote:
>>> So - I went to prepare my usual morning espresso today, and as I
>>> flicked the grinder switch - nothing, not a sound, great, it was fine
>>> yesterday!
>> It's easiest to check the simple stuff first, so have you checked to
>> ensure the outlet is good by trying the grinder in another outlet?
>> Depending on how your outlets are wired with GFCIs, make sure you take
>> a trip down to the fuse box and ensure no breakers are tripped.
>>
>
> yep - the pluf socket is fine - I checked my espresso nachine on there..
>


If you have a ohm meter/multi-meter the next thing I'd check would be
the switch on the grinder. If you've used it 4.5 years you probably
turned it on and off several times, just a guess. So it's a wear item
that will eventually go. Of course if there are any fuses in the
grinder check those first but I'd assume you would do that. Then if
neither of those things are it... look at the motor. Ta-da!

David Williams


 
Date: 06 Jun 2006 04:14:18
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!



Dan wrote:
> So - I went to prepare my usual morning espresso today, and as I
> flicked the grinder switch - nothing, not a sound, great, it was fine
> yesterday!
>
> I checked it was plugged in, and it was, shame it's not a detachable
> power cord so I could rule that out.
>
> It's about 4.5 years old now - so relatively young.. wonder whats up
> with it??

It's easiest to check the simple stuff first, so have you checked to
ensure the outlet is good by trying the grinder in another outlet?
Depending on how your outlets are wired with GFCIs, make sure you take
a trip down to the fuse box and ensure no breakers are tripped.

Carmen



 
Date: 06 Jun 2006 13:18:34
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!



Dan wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> > So - I went to prepare my usual morning espresso today, and as I
> > flicked the grinder switch - nothing, not a sound, great, it was fine
> > yesterday!
> >
> > I checked it was plugged in, and it was, shame it's not a detachable
> > power cord so I could rule that out.
> >
> > It's about 4.5 years old now - so relatively young.. wonder whats up
> > with it??
> >
> >
> > Daniel
>
> seems it was the switch - I've bypassed it for now (in the uk - so we
> have wall switches i can use for now..).

Oh, I forgot to add:
Can you repair this yourself, or do you know where to take it for a
repair for the long term fix?

Carmen



 
Date: 06 Jun 2006 13:17:01
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!



Dan wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> > So - I went to prepare my usual morning espresso today, and as I
> > flicked the grinder switch - nothing, not a sound, great, it was fine
> > yesterday!
> >
> > I checked it was plugged in, and it was, shame it's not a detachable
> > power cord so I could rule that out.
> >
> > It's about 4.5 years old now - so relatively young.. wonder whats up
> > with it??
> >
> >
> > Daniel
>
> seems it was the switch - I've bypassed it for now (in the uk - so we
> have wall switches i can use for now..).

Yay! It lives! More importantly, you can have coffee. :-)

Carmen



 
Date: 06 Jun 2006 13:09:07
From: Dan
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!



Dan wrote:
> So - I went to prepare my usual morning espresso today, and as I
> flicked the grinder switch - nothing, not a sound, great, it was fine
> yesterday!
>
> I checked it was plugged in, and it was, shame it's not a detachable
> power cord so I could rule that out.
>
> It's about 4.5 years old now - so relatively young.. wonder whats up
> with it??
>
>
> Daniel

seems it was the switch - I've bypassed it for now (in the uk - so we
have wall switches i can use for now..).



 
Date: 06 Jun 2006 10:38:41
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!



Randy G. wrote:
> "Dan" <daniel_roach@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >daveb wrote:
> >> " your grinder"
> >>
> >> what make -- model?????
> >>
> >> dave
> >>
> >
> >Blast it - I coulda been sure i mentioned it was a Gaggia MDF!!
> >
> >big duh for me...
> >
>
> As was mentioned, I would suspect the switch. If you are comfortable
> working around electricity, bypass the switch and then plug in the
> grinder, or just test the switch with an ohm meter.

That could make it as simple as a soldering job. If the OP solders,
that is. If they don't, it's a very easy skill to learn - I promise!

Carmen - ham radio geek with mad soldering skillz



  
Date: 06 Jun 2006 22:15:14
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!


"Carmen" <carmensrt@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>Randy G. wrote:
>> "Dan" <daniel_roach@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> As was mentioned, I would suspect the switch. If you are comfortable
>> working around electricity, bypass the switch and then plug in the
>> grinder, or just test the switch with an ohm meter.
>
>That could make it as simple as a soldering job. If the OP solders,
>that is. If they don't, it's a very easy skill to learn - I promise!
>
>Carmen - ham radio geek with mad soldering skillz

I have a webpage up on soldering for beginners:
http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/solder/

But soldering across the switch would not be recommended. For any sort
of motor driven device it is a good thing to have a way to turn it off
besides pulling the plug from the wall. A jumper wire would be fine to
find out if it is indeed the switch, then get a reeplacement if it is
so.


Randy "Ma.. Grandpa's smoking- PUT HIM OUT!!" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




 
Date: 07 Jun 2006 07:01:01
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!



Randy G. wrote:
> "Carmen" <carmensrt@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Randy G. wrote:
> >> "Dan" <daniel_roach@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> As was mentioned, I would suspect the switch. If you are comfortable
> >> working around electricity, bypass the switch and then plug in the
> >> grinder, or just test the switch with an ohm meter.
> >
> >That could make it as simple as a soldering job. If the OP solders,
> >that is. If they don't, it's a very easy skill to learn - I promise!
> >
> >Carmen - ham radio geek with mad soldering skillz
>
> I have a webpage up on soldering for beginners:
> http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/solder/
>
> But soldering across the switch would not be recommended. For any sort
> of motor driven device it is a good thing to have a way to turn it off
> besides pulling the plug from the wall. A jumper wire would be fine to
> find out if it is indeed the switch, then get a reeplacement if it is
> so.

I wasn't going to suggest he do anything but repair a cold solder joint
or a broken solder point by removing the old solder and restripping a
new section of wire and resoldering it if investigation showed that to
be the problem. I'm blonde, not stupid. Not most days anyway. ;-)

Carmen



 
Date: 07 Jun 2006 06:40:51
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!



Dan wrote:
> Carmen wrote:
>
> > That could make it as simple as a soldering job. If the OP solders,
> > that is. If they don't, it's a very easy skill to learn - I promise!
> >
> > Carmen - ham radio geek with mad soldering skillz
>
> looks like it might not even need soldering - the switch had clip on
> terminals, now if I can work out how to get the old one out......

Can you post a pic on one of the free pic hosting sites? I haven't got
one of those models and don't know what the switch in question looks
like. Crimp-on terminals aren't my fav when I build stuff, but part of
that is admittedly snobbery on my part. ;-)

Carmen



 
Date: 07 Jun 2006 01:41:53
From: Dan
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!



Carmen wrote:

> That could make it as simple as a soldering job. If the OP solders,
> that is. If they don't, it's a very easy skill to learn - I promise!
>
> Carmen - ham radio geek with mad soldering skillz

looks like it might not even need soldering - the switch had clip on
terminals, now if I can work out how to get the old one out......



 
Date: 07 Jun 2006 11:54:08
From: Carmen
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!



daveb wrote:
> per RG:
>
> << That could make it as simple as a soldering job. >>
>
> There is typically NO solder anywhere in any appliance
>
> -- thus no cold solder joints -- connectors PUSH ON.

<Raised eyebrows > First, any appliance with a circuitboard in it has
solder in it. Second, I've opened up more than a few kitchen
appliances and seen solder tacks in 'em - or gremlins doing a fine
imitation of solder. Yes, there are plenty of crimp-on connectors to be
found inside the boxes, but solder has not gone the way of the dodo.

Carmen

Not a dumb blonde OR a wilting lily.
>
> Dave
>
> [modest] expert on Gaggia / Saeco -- not a hobby.
>
>
> Carmen wrote:
> > Randy G. wrote:
> > > "Carmen" <carmensrt@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Randy G. wrote:
> > > >> "Dan" <daniel_roach@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> As was mentioned, I would suspect the switch. If you are comfortable
> > > >> working around electricity, bypass the switch and then plug in the
> > > >> grinder, or just test the switch with an ohm meter.
> > > >
> > > >That could make it as simple as a soldering job. If the OP solders,
> > > >that is. If they don't, it's a very easy skill to learn - I promise!
> > > >
> > > >Carmen - ham radio geek with mad soldering skillz
> > >
> > > I have a webpage up on soldering for beginners:
> > > http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/solder/
> > >
> > > But soldering across the switch would not be recommended. For any sort
> > > of motor driven device it is a good thing to have a way to turn it off
> > > besides pulling the plug from the wall. A jumper wire would be fine to
> > > find out if it is indeed the switch, then get a reeplacement if it is
> > > so.
> >
> > I wasn't going to suggest he do anything but repair a cold solder joint
> > or a broken solder point by removing the old solder and restripping a
> > new section of wire and resoldering it if investigation showed that to
> > be the problem. I'm blonde, not stupid. Not most days anyway. ;-)
> >
> > Carmen



 
Date: 07 Jun 2006 10:42:51
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!


per RG:

<< That could make it as simple as a soldering job. >>

There is typically NO solder anywhere in any appliance

-- thus no cold solder joints -- connectors PUSH ON.

Dave

[modest] expert on Gaggia / Saeco -- not a hobby.


Carmen wrote:
> Randy G. wrote:
> > "Carmen" <carmensrt@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >Randy G. wrote:
> > >> "Dan" <daniel_roach@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> As was mentioned, I would suspect the switch. If you are comfortable
> > >> working around electricity, bypass the switch and then plug in the
> > >> grinder, or just test the switch with an ohm meter.
> > >
> > >That could make it as simple as a soldering job. If the OP solders,
> > >that is. If they don't, it's a very easy skill to learn - I promise!
> > >
> > >Carmen - ham radio geek with mad soldering skillz
> >
> > I have a webpage up on soldering for beginners:
> > http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/solder/
> >
> > But soldering across the switch would not be recommended. For any sort
> > of motor driven device it is a good thing to have a way to turn it off
> > besides pulling the plug from the wall. A jumper wire would be fine to
> > find out if it is indeed the switch, then get a reeplacement if it is
> > so.
>
> I wasn't going to suggest he do anything but repair a cold solder joint
> or a broken solder point by removing the old solder and restripping a
> new section of wire and resoldering it if investigation showed that to
> be the problem. I'm blonde, not stupid. Not most days anyway. ;-)
>
> Carmen



 
Date: 08 Jun 2006 03:45:17
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Yay - grinder's gone ga ga!


I'm referrring to connections to switches, capacitors, motors, Etc.
which is what exists in a Gaggia Grinder.

Dave
Seaco Gaggia service SE