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Date: 12 Aug 2006 01:10:15
From: Alan
Subject: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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Ran across photos of this elaborately decorated cappuccino
(www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=131) and was wondering whether
this could be considered "barista" art or, because it was so involved, and
also utilized chocolate syrup, might more properly be considered a piece of
confectionery art . . . any opinions?
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Date: 11 Aug 2006 23:28:53
From: notbob
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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On 2006-08-12, Alan <in_flagrante@hotmail.com > wrote:
> this could be considered "barista" art or, because it was so involved, and
> also utilized chocolate syrup, might more properly be considered a piece of
> confectionery art........
What difference does it make? If you wanna call it art, go for it.
Just for the record, I don't much give a flop about "barista" art, one
way or the other. That someone can make anal perfect microfoam and
pour it to look like a ...what?... a spastic heart?... means little to
me. I'm in it for the flavor. OTOH, if you are gonna try and take a
cup of coffee to the level of actual art, let's quit clownging around.
Microfoam, syrups, stylus etchings, you name it. Might as well
include cyrstalized rose petals and Klingon-ear cup handles. Once you
let "art" in the door, any semblence of reality or good sense goes
out. But, that's never stopped anyone. Do it. Enjoy it.
nb
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 16:07:33
From: Neal Reid
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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In article <LImdnQSO_q2YxEDZnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com >,
notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote:
> On 2006-08-12, Alan <in_flagrante@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > this could be considered "barista" art or, because it was so involved, and
> > also utilized chocolate syrup, might more properly be considered a piece of
> > confectionery art........
>
> What difference does it make?
> ... means little to me. I'm in it for the flavor. OTOH, ...
On the other, other hand, one of my most appreciative friends
recently had one of my capps and said, "That tasted great; nothing
to look at, but it tasted great".
Until that day, I hadn't considered what it looked like as part of
the experience - but to each his own. We must allow that, to some,
adding art to the drink increases the pleasure!
--
M for N in address to mail reply
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Date: 11 Aug 2006 19:24:12
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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"Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:XT9Dg.6754$kO3.4137@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> Ran across photos of this elaborately decorated cappuccino
> (www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=131) and was wondering whether
> this could be considered "barista" art or, because it was so involved, and
> also utilized chocolate syrup, might more properly be considered a piece
> of confectionery art . . . any opinions?
>
appears to be a website either run by or supportive of Hezbollah
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Date: 11 Aug 2006 19:41:09
From: GeeDubb
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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"Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:4k4ourFak5v9U1@individual.net...
> "Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:XT9Dg.6754$kO3.4137@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>> Ran across photos of this elaborately decorated cappuccino
>> (www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=131) and was wondering
>> whether this could be considered "barista" art or, because it was so
>> involved, and also utilized chocolate syrup, might more properly be
>> considered a piece of confectionery art . . . any opinions?
>>
>
> appears to be a website either run by or supportive of Hezbollah
>
definately wouldn't be allowed on a commercial airline.....
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Date: 13 Aug 2006 13:25:33
From: hudson
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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"Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:4k4ourFak5v9U1@individual.net...
> "Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:XT9Dg.6754$kO3.4137@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>> Ran across photos of this elaborately decorated cappuccino
>> (www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=131) and was wondering
>> whether this could be considered "barista" art or, because it was so
>> involved, and also utilized chocolate syrup, might more properly be
>> considered a piece of confectionery art . . . any opinions?
>>
>
> appears to be a website either run by or supportive of Hezbollah
>
I take it you are fluent in Arabic and can support that assertion. I would
hate to think that your comment fell under the stereotype of dumbass
american.
Stuart Hudson
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Date: 13 Aug 2006 08:15:09
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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"hudson" <Mhh21c_removethis_@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:4k8k1tFb0hb6U1@individual.net...
>
> "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4k4ourFak5v9U1@individual.net...
>> "Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:XT9Dg.6754$kO3.4137@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>>> Ran across photos of this elaborately decorated cappuccino
>>> (www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=131) and was wondering
>>> whether this could be considered "barista" art or, because it was so
>>> involved, and also utilized chocolate syrup, might more properly be
>>> considered a piece of confectionery art . . . any opinions?
>>>
>>
>> appears to be a website either run by or supportive of Hezbollah
>>
>
> I take it you are fluent in Arabic and can support that assertion. I would
> hate to think that your comment fell under the stereotype of dumbass
> american.
>
> Stuart Hudson
>
go to the main webpage for the domain, asshole, and look around. Even you
might recognize the visage of the head of hezbollah on the webpages
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Date: 13 Aug 2006 14:58:40
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:15:09 -0600, "Ken Fox"
<morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com > wrote:
>>> appears to be a website either run by or supportive of Hezbollah
>>>
>>
>> I take it you are fluent in Arabic and can support that assertion. I would
>> hate to think that your comment fell under the stereotype of dumbass
>> american.
>>
>> Stuart Hudson
>>
>
>go to the main webpage for the domain, asshole, and look around. Even you
>might recognize the visage of the head of hezbollah on the webpages
You mean this one?
http://www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=218
Marshall
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Date: 13 Aug 2006 10:54:02
From: notbob
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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On 2006-08-13, Marshall <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net > wrote:
> You mean this one?
> http://www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=218
...or this one, which is hilarious:
http://www.ed7k.com//multimedia.php?id=184&table_n=flashs
I don't speak arabic, either, but this website, with all the humorous
caricatures of arabs and other humor related content hardly seems a
propaganda organ for hezbollah.
nb
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 15:06:47
From: hudson
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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"notbob" <notbob@nothome.com > wrote in message
news:7oudnQ82UL2H1kLZnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com...
> On 2006-08-13, Marshall <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> You mean this one?
>> http://www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=218
>
> ...or this one, which is hilarious:
>
> http://www.ed7k.com//multimedia.php?id=184&table_n=flashs
>
> I don't speak arabic, either, but this website, with all the humorous
> caricatures of arabs and other humor related content hardly seems a
> propaganda organ for hezbollah.
>
> nb
As a professional driver, that one had me rolling in the aisles!
Stuart Hudson
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Date: 13 Aug 2006 09:44:13
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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upper left link off homepage produces this:
http://www.wa3ad.org/
"Marshall" <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net > wrote in message
news:5gfud25nmo0bialijh8cjdqso9vde5fh00@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:15:09 -0600, "Ken Fox"
> <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> appears to be a website either run by or supportive of Hezbollah
>>>>
>>>
>>> I take it you are fluent in Arabic and can support that assertion. I
>>> would
>>> hate to think that your comment fell under the stereotype of dumbass
>>> american.
>>>
>>> Stuart Hudson
>>>
>>
>>go to the main webpage for the domain, asshole, and look around. Even you
>>might recognize the visage of the head of hezbollah on the webpages
>
> You mean this one?
> http://www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=218
>
> Marshall
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 15:09:10
From: hudson
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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"Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:4k8qg9Faogp6U1@individual.net...
> "hudson" <Mhh21c_removethis_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4k8k1tFb0hb6U1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4k4ourFak5v9U1@individual.net...
>>> "Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XT9Dg.6754$kO3.4137@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>>>> Ran across photos of this elaborately decorated cappuccino
>>>> (www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=131) and was wondering
>>>> whether this could be considered "barista" art or, because it was so
>>>> involved, and also utilized chocolate syrup, might more properly be
>>>> considered a piece of confectionery art . . . any opinions?
>>>>
>>>
>>> appears to be a website either run by or supportive of Hezbollah
>>>
>>
>> I take it you are fluent in Arabic and can support that assertion. I
>> would hate to think that your comment fell under the stereotype of
>> dumbass american.
>>
>> Stuart Hudson
>>
>
> go to the main webpage for the domain, asshole, and look around. Even you
> might recognize the visage of the head of hezbollah on the webpages
>
And like me, you have absolutely no idea of the context. You would rather
just assume what you want to assume.
Stuart Hudson
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 08:15:57
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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"hudson" <Mhh21c_removethis_@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:4kbeg7FbdqvbU1@individual.net...
>
> "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4k8qg9Faogp6U1@individual.net...
>> "hudson" <Mhh21c_removethis_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4k8k1tFb0hb6U1@individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Ken Fox" <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4k4ourFak5v9U1@individual.net...
>>>> "Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:XT9Dg.6754$kO3.4137@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>> Ran across photos of this elaborately decorated cappuccino
>>>>> (www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=131) and was wondering
>>>>> whether this could be considered "barista" art or, because it was so
>>>>> involved, and also utilized chocolate syrup, might more properly be
>>>>> considered a piece of confectionery art . . . any opinions?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> appears to be a website either run by or supportive of Hezbollah
>>>>
>>>
>>> I take it you are fluent in Arabic and can support that assertion. I
>>> would hate to think that your comment fell under the stereotype of
>>> dumbass american.
>>>
>>> Stuart Hudson
>>>
>>
>> go to the main webpage for the domain, asshole, and look around. Even
>> you might recognize the visage of the head of hezbollah on the webpages
>>
>
> And like me, you have absolutely no idea of the context. You would rather
> just assume what you want to assume.
>
> Stuart Hudson
>
any website with a large square link on the homepage, that goes directly to
a website showing terrorist organization figures with a submachine gun drawn
in above them, is more than highly suggestive in my view. You can draw your
own conclusions
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 00:42:00
From: Alan
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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"Ken Fox" wrote
> "hudson" wrote
>>
>> "Ken Fox" wrote
>>> "hudson" wrote
>>>>
>>>> "Ken Fox" wrote
>>>>> "Alan" wrote
>>>>>> Ran across photos of this elaborately decorated cappuccino
>>>>>> (www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=131) and was wondering
>>>>>> whether this could be considered "barista" art or, because it was so
>>>>>> involved, and also utilized chocolate syrup, might more properly be
>>>>>> considered a piece of confectionery art . . . any opinions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> appears to be a website either run by or supportive of Hezbollah
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I take it you are fluent in Arabic and can support that assertion. I
>>>> would hate to think that your comment fell under the stereotype of
>>>> dumbass american.
>>>>
>>>> Stuart Hudson
>>>>
>>>
>>> go to the main webpage for the domain, asshole, and look around. Even
>>> you might recognize the visage of the head of hezbollah on the webpages
>>>
>>
>> And like me, you have absolutely no idea of the context. You would
>> rather just assume what you want to assume.
>>
>> Stuart Hudson
>>
>
> any website with a large square link on the homepage, that goes directly
> to a website showing terrorist organization figures with a submachine gun
> drawn in above them, is more than highly suggestive in my view. You can
> draw your own conclusions
Time for a little clarification, it looks like. The link on that homepage
is labeled "news of resistance and triumph" and leads to the wa3ad.org
website ("wa3d" means "promise"). That website is basically an ad hoc blog
dealing with news and issues of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon (you might
notice the "Cedar of Lebanon" as its logo ---- Hezbollah's logo is quite
different). There are dozens of separate articles on that page as well as
several different photos. Most prominent, unsurprisingly (since he is a key
"player" in the conflict), is a photo of Nasrullah, current head of
Hezbollah. I don't know when you visited the site, but I visited it today
and saw no machine guns over his head ---- he appears to floating in the
clouds, actually. Other photos include George Bush, as well as Gideon Levy,
a journalist with the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. Mr. Levy's article
(http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/749680.html) has been translated into
Arabic and is reproduced in full on wa3ad's website:
http://www.wa3ad.org/index.php?show=news&action=article&id=762. Some
articles deal with specifics of troop movements, attacks, and general
logistics of the conflict. Some articles are more general and can be
classified as general political discussion. So what you've got, in sum, is
a blog specific to an event, with articles contributed by a number of
writers who have a number of different viewpoints. It's obviously got a
slant and a bias, but it can hardly be considered a "terrorist" website.
Speaking of "terrorist", you might be interested in Joanne Mariner's article
on FindLaw (http://writ.news.findlaw.com/mariner/20020513.html wherein she
discusses EU's reasons for NOT including Hezbollah on the EU's "official
list of terrorists".
To prevent any name-calling, personal attacks, and assumptions about my
ethnicity and my politics, let me say that I am a Jew living in the US, and
I support neither Hezbollah nor Israel.
Now, let's have a nice cup of coffee . . . (with or without "latte art").
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 17:37:21
From: Danny
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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Ken Fox wrote:
> any website with a large square link on the homepage, that goes directly to
> a website showing terrorist organization figures with a submachine gun drawn
> in above them, is more than highly suggestive in my view. You can draw your
> own conclusions
I don't get involved with political converse as a rule, but your knee
jerk reaction, which seems to support and reinforce other peoples'
views of the reaction of the general population and your leader,
really don't do world peace any good.
--
Regards, Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 13:18:05
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote in message
news:4kebhnFbrbchU1@individual.net...
> Ken Fox wrote:
>
>> any website with a large square link on the homepage, that goes directly
>> to a website showing terrorist organization figures with a submachine gun
>> drawn in above them, is more than highly suggestive in my view. You can
>> draw your own conclusions
>
> I don't get involved with political converse as a rule, but your knee jerk
> reaction, which seems to support and reinforce other peoples' views of the
> reaction of the general population and your leader, really don't do world
> peace any good.
>
>
> --
> Regards, Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
>
a knee jerk reaction to someone who is in charge of an organization that
fires rockets intentionally into entirely civilian, populated areas (e.g.
Haifa Israel and other towns) deserves no deference whatsoever and the fact
that other people people thinking themselves to be civilized would disagree
with this does not speak well for the future of civilization as we know it.
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 06:03:24
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: "barista" art or confectionery art?
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:10:15 GMT, "Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>Ran across photos of this elaborately decorated cappuccino
>(www.arab7.com/show/linkredirect.php?linkid=131) and was wondering whether
>this could be considered "barista" art or, because it was so involved, and
>also utilized chocolate syrup, might more properly be considered a piece of
>confectionery art . . . any opinions?
>
It's called "latte etching," to distinguish it from latte art, which
is created purely by pouring steamed milk.
Marshall
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