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Date: 25 Jun 2006 18:19:20
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: ciao from Vicenza!
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Ciao from the Veneto, ya'll,
It was a busy week & I didn't get to see the Maltoni museum. I've been
promised a personal tour before we leave Thursday. I'd forgotten what
espresso is like until I sat down for breakfast in the Piazza dei Signori.
It was head & shoulders above anything I've had in this country. Better than
whatever Seattle can offer, same for New York & Boston. Maybe it was the 50
year old spring lever the maitre dei used to pull the shot table-side al
fresco. Or maybe it was the maitre dei's 50 years experience using the
machine? The guy must have thought me nuts when I had him make me 4 more
shots just so I take notes!
Anyway, I've been following the threads here even if I can't contribute
much. A points: 1) I wouldn't use the method suggested by someone to test
pumps - unless your life insurance is paid up. Water spraying over
electrical connections isn't too healthy. Either take the pump out to test
or get a piece of tubing long enough to port the water to an external
container. 2) La Pavoni's can outperform electric pump machines, hands down;
IF one takes the time to master the techniques. Don't shoot for too much
pressure though or you'll break the cheap plastic piston used on later
models. Maybe that's not such a bad thing as you can then replace it with
the superior brass piston. 3) I've used pumps from several manufactures &
they've all been interchangeable. What is different is the mounting
hardware - even among the Gaggia line there are 3 o4 different mountings.
I subscribe to the new-found attitudes of civility advocated by some, but
I'll take a wait & see position to see how long it takes to revert to
normal. I do take heart however in the ad hominem attacks on Randy & Ken.
All they're doing is eating up the bandwidth with their sneaky attempts to
promote their web sites under the transparent guise of helping people. Have
they NO shame?
--
Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
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Date: 25 Jun 2006 20:01:06
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: ciao from Vicenza!
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Ignored
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:19:20 GMT, "Robert Harmon"
<r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote:
>Ciao from the Veneto, ya'll,
>It was a busy week & I didn't get to see the Maltoni museum. I've been
>promised a personal tour before we leave Thursday. I'd forgotten what
>espresso is like until I sat down for breakfast in the Piazza dei Signori.
>It was head & shoulders above anything I've had in this country. Better than
>whatever Seattle can offer, same for New York & Boston. Maybe it was the 50
>year old spring lever the maitre dei used to pull the shot table-side al
>fresco. Or maybe it was the maitre dei's 50 years experience using the
>machine? The guy must have thought me nuts when I had him make me 4 more
>shots just so I take notes!
>
>Anyway, I've been following the threads here even if I can't contribute
>much. A points: 1) I wouldn't use the method suggested by someone to test
>pumps - unless your life insurance is paid up. Water spraying over
>electrical connections isn't too healthy. Either take the pump out to test
>or get a piece of tubing long enough to port the water to an external
>container. 2) La Pavoni's can outperform electric pump machines, hands down;
>IF one takes the time to master the techniques. Don't shoot for too much
>pressure though or you'll break the cheap plastic piston used on later
>models. Maybe that's not such a bad thing as you can then replace it with
>the superior brass piston. 3) I've used pumps from several manufactures &
>they've all been interchangeable. What is different is the mounting
>hardware - even among the Gaggia line there are 3 o4 different mountings.
>
>I subscribe to the new-found attitudes of civility advocated by some, but
>I'll take a wait & see position to see how long it takes to revert to
>normal. I do take heart however in the ad hominem attacks on Randy & Ken.
>All they're doing is eating up the bandwidth with their sneaky attempts to
>promote their web sites under the transparent guise of helping people. Have
>they NO shame?
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Date: 25 Jun 2006 22:28:23
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: ciao from Vicenza!
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"I- >Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:jrqt92tq6vhkk6ujfs7bl71pqqg2sar55d@4ax.com:
> Ignored
>
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:19:20 GMT, "Robert Harmon"
> <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Ciao from the Veneto, ya'll,
>>It was a busy week & I didn't get to see the Maltoni museum. I've
>>been promised a personal tour before we leave Thursday. I'd forgotten
>>what espresso is like until I sat down for breakfast in the Piazza
>>dei Signori. It was head & shoulders above anything I've had in this
>>country. Better than whatever Seattle can offer, same for New York &
>>Boston. Maybe it was the 50 year old spring lever the maitre dei used
>>to pull the shot table-side al fresco. Or maybe it was the maitre
>>dei's 50 years experience using the machine? The guy must have thought
>>me nuts when I had him make me 4 more shots just so I take notes!
>>
>>Anyway, I've been following the threads here even if I can't
>>contribute much. A points: 1) I wouldn't use the method suggested by
>>someone to test pumps - unless your life insurance is paid up. Water
>>spraying over electrical connections isn't too healthy. Either take
>>the pump out to test or get a piece of tubing long enough to port the
>>water to an external container. 2) La Pavoni's can outperform electric
>>pump machines, hands down; IF one takes the time to master the
>>techniques. Don't shoot for too much pressure though or you'll break
>>the cheap plastic piston used on later models. Maybe that's not such a
>>bad thing as you can then replace it with the superior brass piston.
>>3) I've used pumps from several manufactures & they've all been
>>interchangeable. What is different is the mounting hardware - even
>>among the Gaggia line there are 3 o4 different mountings.
>>
>>I subscribe to the new-found attitudes of civility advocated by some,
>>but I'll take a wait & see position to see how long it takes to revert
>>to normal. I do take heart however in the ad hominem attacks on Randy
>>& Ken. All they're doing is eating up the bandwidth with their sneaky
>>attempts to promote their web sites under the transparent guise of
>>helping people. Have they NO shame?
>
Me thinkest thou dost protest too much. But thanks for reading my post just
so you can ignore it.
Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
--
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
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Date: 26 Jun 2006 04:40:30
From: daveb
Subject: Re: ciao from Vicenza!
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wow. thanks for thinking of us. Things slow over there?
I thought we'd get a 2 week break:
"Robert (be gone for a fortnight) Harmon "
guess not. :-( tsk tsk
Dave "ft7yrhbu6eddnukn9" b
www.hitechespresso.com
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