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Date: 10 Sep 2003 09:31:35
From: lo
Subject: coffee/grinder/carafe advice?
My husband and I have a living/commuting schedule that only allows us
to use our silvia on weekends. We need a great quality, combo bean
holder/burr grinder/coffee maker/thermal carafe -- we need to be able
to program the machine and have very good, very strong coffee waiting
for him at 5am and me at 5:45am.

I don't know anything about current coffee makers and would appreciate
any advice. We like strong coffee - I find that the longer the water
is in contact with the coffee before it drips to the carafe the
better.

I've done a search for this, but all the posts are old, and I'd like
info about current models. PS I've learned a great deal about coffee
from this group, and I appreciate how generous so many people are with
their time and expertise.

Also - I live in Brooklyn near D'Amico coffee roasters - their house
blend dark roast is worth trying. It is inexpensive and fresh and
strong - They are also really nice people. You can order online -
http://www.damicofoods.com/index.html

sorry for the long post! thank you!


 
Date: 10 Sep 2003 14:01:39
From: Sonam Dasara
Subject: Re: coffee/grinder/carafe advice?
Well, I'll make a few comments, and I'm certain that others will fill in
many more details.

Ground coffee becomes stale in a matter of hours, so setting up a brewer
the night before will not produce even "good" coffee.

Coffee that has sat for 45 minutes will lose a great deal of flavor -
even if kept in a thermal flask - IMO. I just don't like the taste of old
coffee in a thermal flask. So I'd advise that the remainder of the coffee
brewed for 5:00 should dumped, and a fresh pot made for 5:45. Again, YMMV,
and you might not mind the coffee that has been stored in a thermal flask.

The length of time the water is in contact with the grounds does not
make coffee "stronger"; in fact too long will make it bitter. "Strength" as
a flavor descriptor correlates to the ratio of coffee to water. IMO, 7gms of
coffee for every four ounces of water will produce a reasonably strong brew.

IMO, the two best auto-drips are the CUISINART BREW CENTRAL and the
TECHNIVORM MOCCAMASTER (somewhat expensive). YMMV, so go to
www.coffeegeek.com and read the drip reviews under "Consumer Reviews". Then
you will have more information.

I don't have any experience with the grind 'n' brew machines.

--
Cordially,

Sonam Dasara


"lo" <weebklyn@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:31301cf8.0309100831.42b397cf@posting.google.com...
> My husband and I have a living/commuting schedule that only allows us
> to use our silvia on weekends. We need a great quality, combo bean
> holder/burr grinder/coffee maker/thermal carafe -- we need to be able
> to program the machine and have very good, very strong coffee waiting
> for him at 5am and me at 5:45am.
>
> I don't know anything about current coffee makers and would appreciate
> any advice. We like strong coffee - I find that the longer the water
> is in contact with the coffee before it drips to the carafe the
> better.
>
> I've done a search for this, but all the posts are old, and I'd like
> info about current models. PS I've learned a great deal about coffee
> from this group, and I appreciate how generous so many people are with
> their time and expertise.
>
> Also - I live in Brooklyn near D'Amico coffee roasters - their house
> blend dark roast is worth trying. It is inexpensive and fresh and
> strong - They are also really nice people. You can order online -
> http://www.damicofoods.com/index.html
>
> sorry for the long post! thank you!




  
Date: 11 Sep 2003 07:29:14
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: coffee/grinder/carafe advice?


 
Date: 10 Sep 2003 18:16:19
From: Tony Jester
Subject: Re: coffee/grinder/carafe advice?

"lo" <weebklyn@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:31301cf8.0309100831.42b397cf@posting.google.com...
> My husband and I have a living/commuting schedule that only allows us
> to use our silvia on weekends. We need a great quality, combo bean
> holder/burr grinder/coffee maker/thermal carafe -- we need to be able
> to program the machine and have very good, very strong coffee waiting
> for him at 5am and me at 5:45am.
>

The equipment you're looking for may be available in the 23rd century, but I
think it is too expensive now. Instead, do this: Get a heavy duty
programmable appliance timer and program it to turn your Silvia on at 3:00
am. Get up at 4:50and 5:35am respectively. Prepare a double shot as usual.
DO NOT steam any milk, it is a BIG waste of time and only ruins good
espresso anyway. Down a double shot taking enough time to enjoy it. Clean
the machine. Get dressed and hit the road. Try it and let me know.

-Tony-




 
Date: 10 Sep 2003 16:27:50
From: David M. Lewis
Subject: Re: coffee/grinder/carafe advice?
weebklyn@hotmail.com (lo) wrote in message news:<31301cf8.0309100831.42b397cf@posting.google.com >...
> My husband and I have a living/commuting schedule that only allows us
> to use our silvia on weekends. We need a great quality, combo bean
> holder/burr grinder/coffee maker/thermal carafe -- we need to be able
> to program the machine and have very good, very strong coffee waiting
> for him at 5am and me at 5:45am.
>
> I don't know anything about current coffee makers and would appreciate
> any advice. We like strong coffee - I find that the longer the water
> is in contact with the coffee before it drips to the carafe the
> better.
>
As far as I know, the only drip brewer with a decent grinder is the
Capresso CoffeeTEAM Luxe, which you can see at
<http://www.capresso.com/prod_makers_lux_body.html >.

It doesn't have the thermal carafe, so you'd have two choices: he'd
either reprogram it for your arising, or more likely he'd get up and
pour part of the pot into a carafe for you.

Best,
David


 
Date: 10 Sep 2003 21:15:41
From: Roger Shoaf
Subject: Re: coffee/grinder/carafe advice?
Perhaps I am some sort of curmudgeon or something but my Bunn only takes
about 3 minutes for a pot of coffee. My Kitchen Aide grinder takes about 10
or 15 seconds to grind.

If you were to decant the carafe into two thermos bottles, dump the grounds
and rinse the pot and funnel, the whole process would only take 5 minutes.
When you consider you could get to sleep a little earlier not futzing with
making coffee at night, seems to me the fresh coffee would be worth it.

Your added benefit would be one of simplicity. The units that are timers,
VCR's and coffee pots only require one of it's elements to crap out and you
are shopping again.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.


"lo" <weebklyn@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:31301cf8.0309100831.42b397cf@posting.google.com...
> My husband and I have a living/commuting schedule that only allows us
> to use our silvia on weekends. We need a great quality, combo bean
> holder/burr grinder/coffee maker/thermal carafe -- we need to be able
> to program the machine and have very good, very strong coffee waiting
> for him at 5am and me at 5:45am.
>
> I don't know anything about current coffee makers and would appreciate
> any advice. We like strong coffee - I find that the longer the water
> is in contact with the coffee before it drips to the carafe the
> better.
>
> I've done a search for this, but all the posts are old, and I'd like
> info about current models. PS I've learned a great deal about coffee
> from this group, and I appreciate how generous so many people are with
> their time and expertise.
>
> Also - I live in Brooklyn near D'Amico coffee roasters - their house
> blend dark roast is worth trying. It is inexpensive and fresh and
> strong - They are also really nice people. You can order online -
> http://www.damicofoods.com/index.html
>
> sorry for the long post! thank you!