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Date: 04 Jun 2006 04:14:48
From: Steve Ackman
Subject: free news server
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For those looking, this is posted via nntp.aioe.org
Details:
http://news.aioe.org/index.php
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Date: 04 Jun 2006 22:00:11
From: Rene van Sint Annaland
Subject: Re: free news server
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In article <slrne84no0.oeg.steve@wizard.dyndns.org >, steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com
says...
> For those looking, this is posted via nntp.aioe.org
>
> Details:
> http://news.aioe.org/index.php
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Thanks Steve, using this right now with GPRS, had been looking for something like this.
--
René van Sint Annaland
www.justespresso.com
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Date: 04 Jun 2006 15:59:48
From: Ken Wilson
Subject: Re: free news server
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> Thanks Steve, using this right now with GPRS, had been looking for
> something like this.
> --
thanks from me too.
Ken
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Date: 05 Jun 2006 07:29:58
From: Robert
Subject: Re: free news server
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Steve Ackman wrote:
> For those looking, this is posted via nntp.aioe.org
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> Details:
> http://news.aioe.org/index.php
Great post Steve! Earthlink has been having problem after problem with
their news servers & while I'll use it I don't like Google's web
interface (no kill file or filtering).
Thanks again,
Robert
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Date: 06 Jun 2006 00:43:26
From: Steve Ackman
Subject: Re: free news server
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In <1149517798.272550.62710@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >, on 5 Jun 2006
07:29:58 -0700, Robert wrote:
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>> http://news.aioe.org/index.php
>
> Great post Steve! Earthlink has been having problem after problem with
> their news servers & while I'll use it I don't like Google's web
> interface (no kill file or filtering).
It never ceases to amaze me how anyone can actually
choose to use Google Groups when real news servers
are available.
Then again, I was amazed that anyone would actually
use Windows 3.1 when Geoworks 1.2 was light years better,
so what do I know.
Then again, I have a DOS browser from around '97
not to mention Linux Netscape 3.04 from about that same
time which easily display URI's such as
http://wizard.dyndns.org:1234/shiprock/0603/2006.03.10-pepper.snow.lilac.s.jpg
so again, what do I know? ;-)
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Date: 06 Jun 2006 00:30:22
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: free news server
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"Steve Ackman" <steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com > wrote in message
news:slrne8a1vk.24tp.steve@wizard.dyndns.org...
> >
> It never ceases to amaze me how anyone can actually
> choose to use Google Groups when real news servers
> are available.
>
For reasons entirely unclear to me, some networks are setup to intentionally
preclude newsgroup access. An example I'm very much familiar with would be
the McDonalds in France that offer free WiFi (a rarity in France, and only
big city McDonalds, or as they are called there, "McDo," offer the WiFi). I
don't care what type of newsreader you are using there, newsgroup access is
BLOCKED.
My own research on this has led me to believe that this is not all that
rare; ngs are often blocked in public internet access sites. Once again, I
have no idea why they would choose to do this, just I know that it is a
fact.
So, I have used google groups from time to time in order to access this ng;
never by choice, but in situations where there was no other choice because
ngs by normal access were blocked and otherwise unavailable.
ken
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Date: 06 Jun 2006 13:39:45
From: Mathew Hargreaves
Subject: Re: free news server
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Hi Ken,
You will find that a lot of companies limit access to areas where
employees can express an opinion in public while on duty. This
eliminates the company's liability, for what this person might say into
the public medium, for what is really a private opinion area. At least
my last employer did this, but access to ebay was still wide open. When
employees were using the site to view the Iraq beheadings and the
indonesia tidal wave distruction, the company also blocked access to
some of the mojor sites to block peoples use of the huge bandwidth
needed to see the videos and high res photos.
CHEERS...Matt
Ken Fox wrote:
>
> "Steve Ackman" <steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote in message
> news:slrne8a1vk.24tp.steve@wizard.dyndns.org...
> > >
> > It never ceases to amaze me how anyone can actually
> > choose to use Google Groups when real news servers
> > are available.
> >
>
> For reasons entirely unclear to me, some networks are setup to intentionally
> preclude newsgroup access. An example I'm very much familiar with would be
> the McDonalds in France that offer free WiFi (a rarity in France, and only
> big city McDonalds, or as they are called there, "McDo," offer the WiFi). I
> don't care what type of newsreader you are using there, newsgroup access is
> BLOCKED.
>
> My own research on this has led me to believe that this is not all that
> rare; ngs are often blocked in public internet access sites. Once again, I
> have no idea why they would choose to do this, just I know that it is a
> fact.
>
> So, I have used google groups from time to time in order to access this ng;
> never by choice, but in situations where there was no other choice because
> ngs by normal access were blocked and otherwise unavailable.
>
> ken
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Date: 08 Jun 2006 03:57:53
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: free news server
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Date: 08 Jun 2006 11:00:20
From: Steve Ackman
Subject: Re: free news server
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In <4eklnuF1esrn9U1@individual.net >, on Tue, 6 Jun 2006 00:30:22 -0600,
Ken Fox wrote:
> So, I have used google groups from time to time in order to access this ng;
> never by choice, but in situations where there was no other choice because
> ngs by normal access were blocked and otherwise unavailable.
When we went to SF, I had left my computers on at home
so I could SSH back, and use my own news reader and
server. Unfortunately, while we were gone, there was
a power outage lasting many hours, and my UPS needs a
manual restart after the battery goes dead. :-(
Since I couldn't access my own server, I had to SSH
to my web host, and set up slrn there. Still used my
favorite news reader. Only drawback was that all
messages were "unread" so I had to get a bit fast and
loose with the "D" key, or I'd have been rereading
posts for the whole visit.
I don't know of any network that blocks outbound
SSH, so if you have a news reader accessible via
SSH, you can get to it that way.
You can also use news.aioe.org by setting your
newsreader to look at port 80 (or 443 if your reader
is capable of encryption). This is the normal port
for the www, so as far as the firewall is concerned,
this is just another website.
If you can post via google, you should be able to
post using your own newsreader to aioe.
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Date: 08 Jun 2006 10:20:01
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: free news server
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Hi Steve,
I tried port 80 and it seems to work, but I'm not on an isp now that blocks
usenet; I'll try it the next time I'm in France.
Thanks,
ken
"Steve Ackman" <steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com > wrote in message
news:slrne8gesl.3ao.steve@wizard.dyndns.org...
> In <4eklnuF1esrn9U1@individual.net>, on Tue, 6 Jun 2006 00:30:22 -0600,
> Ken Fox wrote:
>
>> So, I have used google groups from time to time in order to access this
>> ng;
>> never by choice, but in situations where there was no other choice
>> because
>> ngs by normal access were blocked and otherwise unavailable.
>
> When we went to SF, I had left my computers on at home
> so I could SSH back, and use my own news reader and
> server. Unfortunately, while we were gone, there was
> a power outage lasting many hours, and my UPS needs a
> manual restart after the battery goes dead. :-(
>
> Since I couldn't access my own server, I had to SSH
> to my web host, and set up slrn there. Still used my
> favorite news reader. Only drawback was that all
> messages were "unread" so I had to get a bit fast and
> loose with the "D" key, or I'd have been rereading
> posts for the whole visit.
> I don't know of any network that blocks outbound
> SSH, so if you have a news reader accessible via
> SSH, you can get to it that way.
>
> You can also use news.aioe.org by setting your
> newsreader to look at port 80 (or 443 if your reader
> is capable of encryption). This is the normal port
> for the www, so as far as the firewall is concerned,
> this is just another website.
>
> If you can post via google, you should be able to
> post using your own newsreader to aioe.
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Date: 26 Jun 2006 12:48:10
From: Steve Johnson
Subject: Re: free news server
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On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 00:30:22 -0600, "Ken Fox"
<morceaudemerde@snipThisPleaseHotmail.com > wrote:
>"Steve Ackman" <steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote in message
>news:slrne8a1vk.24tp.steve@wizard.dyndns.org...
>> >
>> It never ceases to amaze me how anyone can actually
>> choose to use Google Groups when real news servers
>> are available.
>>
>
>For reasons entirely unclear to me, some networks are setup to intentionally
>preclude newsgroup access. An example I'm very much familiar with would be
>the McDonalds in France that offer free WiFi (a rarity in France, and only
>big city McDonalds, or as they are called there, "McDo," offer the WiFi). I
>don't care what type of newsreader you are using there, newsgroup access is
>BLOCKED.
Here at the office it was blocked with a generic blocking of all
ports, then opening up when people complained about non functioning.
Of the ~ 2,000 employees -- two of us wanted access to newsgroups;
they made exceptions for us and keep the ports generally blocked.
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Date: 08 Jun 2006 01:59:12
From: Phil Paintin
Subject: Re: free news server
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Mathew Hargreaves wrote:
> You will find that a lot of companies limit access to areas where
> employees can express an opinion in public while on duty. This
> eliminates the company's liability, for what this person might say into
> the public medium, for what is really a private opinion area.
Yep, the IT policy of my last employer specifically prohibited posting
to usenet, but not a lot else.
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Date: 12 Jun 2006 21:21:57
From: Danny
Subject: Re: free news server
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Phil Paintin wrote:
> Mathew Hargreaves wrote:
>
>> You will find that a lot of companies limit access to areas where
>>employees can express an opinion in public while on duty. This
>>eliminates the company's liability, for what this person might say into
>>the public medium, for what is really a private opinion area.
>
>
> Yep, the IT policy of my last employer specifically prohibited posting
> to usenet, but not a lot else.
>
The IT policy of my last employer specifically encouraged posting to
usenet. That was IBM, and they thought usenet was a good way of
supporting those with problems, particularly in the good old OS/2 Warp
days, although many other newsgroups covering IBM products had regular
IBM employee postings also.
I see that UK.telecoms.broadband has many suppliers' employees
answering questions (presumably with their employers' knowledge).
--
Regards,
Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
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Date: 12 Jun 2006 20:50:54
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: free news server
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No, no, no Danny!
The good ol' days at IBM were pre-PC days. I started with IBM in '67 right
out of grad school, supporting the 360/370 machines at beta sites in L.A.
(F.I.G. for those that know the L.A. IT scene of that era). IBM started
going to Hell in a handbasket after they joined forces with the folks from
Redmond (actually they were in Kirkland at that time).
At my company we never discourage anyone from using the 'net. It is too good
a tool to ban outright & our folks were smart enough to get around any
'security' we might be tempted to throw at them. I told them that my
computer policy is that when the FBI showed up with a warrant we would
cooperate fully in putting them in jail.
Robert (enlightened management) Harmon
"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote in message
news:4f5vh7F1h7u1pU1@individual.net...
> Phil Paintin wrote:
>> Mathew Hargreaves wrote:
>>
>>> You will find that a lot of companies limit access to areas where
>>>employees can express an opinion in public while on duty. This
>>>eliminates the company's liability, for what this person might say into
>>>the public medium, for what is really a private opinion area.
>>
>>
>> Yep, the IT policy of my last employer specifically prohibited posting
>> to usenet, but not a lot else.
>>
>
> The IT policy of my last employer specifically encouraged posting to
> usenet. That was IBM, and they thought usenet was a good way of
> supporting those with problems, particularly in the good old OS/2 Warp
> days, although many other newsgroups covering IBM products had regular IBM
> employee postings also.
>
> I see that UK.telecoms.broadband has many suppliers' employees answering
> questions (presumably with their employers' knowledge).
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar Gold
> blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
>
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