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Date: 03 Jul 2006 21:32:31
From: DougW
Subject: good coffee Pisa/Livorno area
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Suggestions?
I'm going to be out there later this month on buisness. :)
Last time I bumbled around and never found anything great.
Acceptable, but not great.
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DougW
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Date: 04 Jul 2006 04:04:25
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: good coffee Pisa/Livorno area
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Date: 04 Jul 2006 10:23:24
From: DougW
Subject: Re: good coffee Pisa/Livorno area
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D. Ross did pass the time by typing:
>> I'm going to be out there later this month on buisness. :)
>
> 'Great' will be tough; the drink of choice in Pisa seems to be caffe
> macchiato, which says something.
That was my experience. Best espresso I had was at the Italian Mensa
on Aviano AFB. Even Ghedi had great coffee. Seems as you go further
south the gelato and espresso gets worse. :/
> I always get well-prepared drinks at "Bar Moderno" (near Piazza dei
> Cavalieri), and at the Bar Odeon (not far from the court building), but they
> use pretty middling beans (eg, Arcaffe at Moderno). The best almost-local
> roaster is probably Caffe New York (near Florence), and there are many NY
> Coffee bars in Pisa - they are hit-or-miss, but occasionally you can get
> quite a good shot at one.
>
> I once had a very excellent shot at La Sapienza, which is a student
> favorite.
>
> The posh pastry bar (Salzaa, on Borgo Stretto) has pretty good coffee (and
> great gelato, but not as good as La Bottega del Gelato on Via Cavalca)
Mmmmm.. gelato. :) I will have to try that out.
Thanks for the information.
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DougW
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Date: 14 Jul 2006 06:10:42
From:
Subject: Re: good coffee Pisa/Livorno area
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The posh pastry bar (Salzaa, on Borgo Stretto) has pretty good coffee
(and
>> great gelato, but not as good as La Bottega del Gelato on Via
Cavalca)
>
>Mmmmm.. gelato. :) I will have to try that out.
>
>Thanks for the information.
David knows Pisa:)speaking of which that Leaning Tower is something to
see. Beautiful. Just back from three weeks in Europe and we found
taking our own coffee was the only way to get good coffee.Sorry. It
seems to my admittedly underdeveloped palate that Robusta is what is
prevalent. Just my $.02 or euro bits or pence.
The gelato is not to be missed indeed. Like ice cream but it must be
the forerunner of ice cream- just seemingly- solid cream and wonderful
flavor. No air nothing added-- but cream and flavoring. Yummy about
3Euros though. And also not to be missed --the various morning pastry
treats. Their good smell wafts through Paris in the very early morning
while the street cleaners are busy hosing down the cobblestones.
Wowser they are the flakiest tastiest bites ever eaten.
OT: What happened to alt.coffee?--a new invasion of angry young men?
aloha from cool Honaunau, South Kona,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
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Date: 14 Jul 2006 13:29:39
From: Sylvain
Subject: Re: good coffee Pisa/Livorno area
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<beans@smithfarms.com > wrote in message
news:3tffb2hq7ogl6n5svue5idmp4eab50s0n5@4ax.com...
>
> The gelato is not to be missed indeed. Like ice cream but it must be
> the forerunner of ice cream- just seemingly- solid cream and wonderful
> flavor. No air nothing added-- but cream and flavoring. Yummy about
> 3Euros though. And also not to be missed --the various morning pastry
> treats. Their good smell wafts through Paris in the very early morning
> while the street cleaners are busy hosing down the cobblestones.
> Wowser they are the flakiest tastiest bites ever eaten.
>
> OT: What happened to alt.coffee?--a new invasion of angry young men?
>
> aloha from cool Honaunau, South Kona,
> Cea
>
> --smithfarms.com
> farmers of pure kona
I hope you were in Rome, July 9th (or better yet Berlin), for the historic
moment :-D
I was in France in July 1998, not the result I wanted, but still something
to be experienced.
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Date: 14 Jul 2006 10:32:17
From:
Subject: Re: good coffee Pisa/Livorno area
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:29:39 -0400, "Sylvain" <noemail.@noemail.ca >
wrote:
><beans@smithfarms.com> wrote in message
>news:3tffb2hq7ogl6n5svue5idmp4eab50s0n5@4ax.com...
>
>
>I hope you were in Rome, July 9th (or better yet Berlin), for the
historic
>moment :-D
>
>I was in France in July 1998, not the result I wanted, but still
something
>to be experienced.
>
Oh migod. We were in Firenze when the Italians made the semifinal or
the play off, and in Paris for the same, but we were in London for the
final. I have never seen so much passion in my life. I am glad that
Italy won despite their own issues:). That Zidane action took my
breath away the first time I saw it, but I think American footballers
would probably do the same. I did not like that he got the "Player of
the Game" etc. but then again.... not up to me.
The best part of being in Europe for the World Cup, we could see it
live at a reasonable hour w/o any commercials. It was exciting for
sure and we will not forget it either.
aloha,
Cea
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Date: 14 Jul 2006 23:23:50
From: Sylvain
Subject: Re: good coffee Pisa/Livorno area
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<beans@smithfarms.com > wrote in message
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> Oh migod. We were in Firenze when the Italians made the semifinal or
> the play off, and in Paris for the same, but we were in London for the
> final. I have never seen so much passion in my life. I am glad that
> Italy won despite their own issues:). That Zidane action took my
> breath away the first time I saw it, but I think American footballers
> would probably do the same. I did not like that he got the "Player of
> the Game" etc. but then again.... not up to me.
>
> The best part of being in Europe for the World Cup, we could see it
> live at a reasonable hour w/o any commercials. It was exciting for
> sure and we will not forget it either.
>
> aloha,
> Cea
He could have ended the match with a real header seconds before and make a
glorious exit.
I'm glad you could enjoy it all :)
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Date: 18 Jul 2006 22:45:33
From: Rob van Loenhout
Subject: Re: good coffee Pisa/Livorno area
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<beans@smithfarms.com > wrote in message
news:4jvfb21fnaisau0sf398m6hc9v3c9k8if6@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:29:39 -0400, "Sylvain" <noemail.@noemail.ca>
> wrote:
>
> ><beans@smithfarms.com> wrote in message
> >news:3tffb2hq7ogl6n5svue5idmp4eab50s0n5@4ax.com...
>
> >
> >
> >I hope you were in Rome, July 9th (or better yet Berlin), for the
> historic
> >moment :-D
> >
> >I was in France in July 1998, not the result I wanted, but still
> something
> >to be experienced.
> >
>
> Oh migod. We were in Firenze when the Italians made the semifinal or
> the play off, and in Paris for the same, but we were in London for the
> final. I have never seen so much passion in my life. I am glad that
> Italy won despite their own issues:). That Zidane action took my
> breath away the first time I saw it, but I think American footballers
> would probably do the same. I did not like that he got the "Player of
> the Game" etc. but then again.... not up to me.
Most of the votes were in, up till that point few could have argued that he
deserved it. It was an excellent final, but a pity that it had to go to
penalties.
The last captain of the NZ All Blacks Tana Umaga retired on a high note at
the end of the 2005 season. Unfortunately due to an incident in a
Christchurch bar after the Super 14 final earlier this year, he may not be
remembered for the reasons he might have hoped. One of his Hurricane team
mates got a bit out of hand after tripping on another patron's foot. Tana
knocked some sense into his team mate with a borrowed hand bag, broke the
owner's cell phone. He bought the lady a new cellphone. The handbag complete
with broken cellphone fetched $19200 on Trademe. By the way the handbag did
the trick, settled his team mate nicely. True story.
The Auzzies even did a TV Ad with the All Blacks doing the Haka with
digitally added hand bags.
>
> The best part of being in Europe for the World Cup, we could see it
> live at a reasonable hour w/o any commercials. It was exciting for
> sure and we will not forget it either.
Cea was it coincidental that your trip was during the world cup or did you
plan it that way?
A couple of the guys from my soccer club went to Europe for the WC, I don't
think they're back yet.
Rob "still playing the beautiful game" vL
NZ
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Date: 16 Jul 2006 06:21:40
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: good coffee Pisa/Livorno area
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Date: 18 Jul 2006 22:09:30
From: Rob van Loenhout
Subject: Re: good coffee Pisa/Livorno area
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<beans@smithfarms.com > wrote in message
news:3tffb2hq7ogl6n5svue5idmp4eab50s0n5@4ax.com...
> The posh pastry bar (Salzaa, on Borgo Stretto) has pretty good coffee
> (and
> >> great gelato, but not as good as La Bottega del Gelato on Via
> Cavalca)
> >
> >Mmmmm.. gelato. :) I will have to try that out.
> >
> >Thanks for the information.
>
> David knows Pisa:)speaking of which that Leaning Tower is something to
> see. Beautiful. Just back from three weeks in Europe and we found
> taking our own coffee was the only way to get good coffee.Sorry. It
> seems to my admittedly underdeveloped palate that Robusta is what is
> prevalent. Just my $.02 or euro bits or pence.
>
> The gelato is not to be missed indeed. Like ice cream but it must be
> the forerunner of ice cream- just seemingly- solid cream and wonderful
> flavor. No air nothing added-- but cream and flavoring. Yummy about
> 3Euros though. And also not to be missed --the various morning pastry
> treats. Their good smell wafts through Paris in the very early morning
> while the street cleaners are busy hosing down the cobblestones.
> Wowser they are the flakiest tastiest bites ever eaten.
>
> OT: What happened to alt.coffee?--a new invasion of angry young men?
define young.
Rob vL
NZ
> aloha from cool Honaunau, South Kona,
> Cea
>
> --smithfarms.com
> farmers of pure kona
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Date: 18 Jul 2006 11:00:12
From:
Subject: Re: good coffee Pisa/Livorno area
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:09:30 +1200, "Rob van Loenhout"
<wontwork@dontbother.not > wrote:
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><beans@smithfarms.com> wrote in message
>news:3tffb2hq7ogl6n5svue5idmp4eab50s0n5@4ax.com...
though. And also not to be missed --the various morning pastry
>> treats. Their good smell wafts through Paris in the very early
morning
>> while the street cleaners are busy hosing down the cobblestones.
>> Wowser they are the flakiest tastiest bites ever eaten.
>>
>> OT: What happened to alt.coffee?--a new invasion of angry young
men?
>
>define young.
>
>Rob vL
>NZ
Haha- just a literary phrase:) Rob.
aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
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