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Date: 05 Jul 2006 16:45:39
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: question about Expobar lever model


My neighbor is looking at this http://tinyurl.com/hwuz8 & asked my opinion.
I've never laid eyes on one of these but from the pictures I had a few
questions of my own, It looks like this Office Lever has the digital temp
control like the Brewtus. Can anyone verify this for me before the auction
ends. Sorry to wait 'til the last minute! ;*)

Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
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Date: 05 Jul 2006 19:28:52
From: Jefe
Subject: Re: question about Expobar lever model



Robert Harmon wrote:
> My neighbor is looking at this http://tinyurl.com/hwuz8 & asked my opinion.
> I've never laid eyes on one of these but from the pictures I had a few
> questions of my own, It looks like this Office Lever has the digital temp
> control like the Brewtus. Can anyone verify this for me before the auction
> ends. Sorry to wait 'til the last minute! ;*)

Please encourage him to bid on this. I am forming a club for morons who
buy expensive, delicate, pieces of machinery on eBay and so far I'm the
only member.



  
Date: 06 Jul 2006 03:33:45
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: question about Expobar lever model


Sad to say, but your membership isn't growing today. Someone beat him out on
this one; but he's determined to spend his kids inheritance. Now he's
bidding on a Pulser by Expobar (he gets this tunnel vision thing). Actually,
everything I read about Expobar indicates it is a reliable machine
especially with the digital boiler control. BTW, this was the original
Brewtus that retailed for about $2000 if I remember correctly?
--
Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r

"Jefe" <jefralston@gmail.com > wrote in message
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>
> Robert Harmon wrote:
>> My neighbor is looking at this http://tinyurl.com/hwuz8 & asked my
>> opinion.
>> I've never laid eyes on one of these but from the pictures I had a few
>> questions of my own, It looks like this Office Lever has the digital temp
>> control like the Brewtus. Can anyone verify this for me before the
>> auction
>> ends. Sorry to wait 'til the last minute! ;*)
>
> Please encourage him to bid on this. I am forming a club for morons who
> buy expensive, delicate, pieces of machinery on eBay and so far I'm the
> only member.
>




   
Date: 05 Jul 2006 21:20:28
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: question about Expobar lever model



"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote in message
news:tw%qg.359$vO.238@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Sad to say, but your membership isn't growing today. Someone beat him out
> on this one; but he's determined to spend his kids inheritance. Now he's
> bidding on a Pulser by Expobar (he gets this tunnel vision thing).
> Actually, everything I read about Expobar indicates it is a reliable
> machine especially with the digital boiler control. BTW, this was the
> original Brewtus that retailed for about $2000 if I remember correctly?

I thought the original Brewtus retailed for $1500.

He's an idiot if he buys on Ebay. I was screwed on two espresso machines
over there. Cost me months of my life both times, plus real money. If he
"needs" to get a deal, just buy off of Wholelattelove's refurb site or
Coffeegeek's buy-sell forum.

C




    
Date: 07 Jul 2006 19:18:39
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: question about Expobar lever model


OTOH, I've bought several machines on ebay that were "steals".... NS Elli,
Olympia Cremina, NS Oscar, etc. at prices so low they are almost
embarrassing, from sellers that had no clue as to what they were selling
(and had mis-listed them accordingly). If you take the right precautions
ebay can be fine.


"Cordo" <cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com > wrote in message
news:e8i32b$i41$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>
> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:tw%qg.359$vO.238@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> Sad to say, but your membership isn't growing today. Someone beat him out
>> on this one; but he's determined to spend his kids inheritance. Now he's
>> bidding on a Pulser by Expobar (he gets this tunnel vision thing).
>> Actually, everything I read about Expobar indicates it is a reliable
>> machine especially with the digital boiler control. BTW, this was the
>> original Brewtus that retailed for about $2000 if I remember correctly?
>
> I thought the original Brewtus retailed for $1500.
>
> He's an idiot if he buys on Ebay. I was screwed on two espresso machines
> over there. Cost me months of my life both times, plus real money. If he
> "needs" to get a deal, just buy off of Wholelattelove's refurb site or
> Coffeegeek's buy-sell forum.
>
> C
>




     
Date: 07 Jul 2006 16:56:46
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: question about Expobar lever model


I think buying off Ebay makes sense when you know a little bit about
machines, and so are ready to change burrs on a grinder, or troubleshoot a
broken pressurestat.

But if you're an average consumer, you ought to view buying Italian made
espresso equipment on Ebay akin to buying a Russian-made car on Ebay.

C

"Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote in message
news:sJCdnZc_gY1SdjPZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> OTOH, I've bought several machines on ebay that were "steals".... NS Elli,
> Olympia Cremina, NS Oscar, etc. at prices so low they are almost
> embarrassing, from sellers that had no clue as to what they were selling
> (and had mis-listed them accordingly). If you take the right precautions
> ebay can be fine.
>
>
> "Cordo" <cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:e8i32b$i41$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>
>> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:tw%qg.359$vO.238@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> Sad to say, but your membership isn't growing today. Someone beat him
>>> out on this one; but he's determined to spend his kids inheritance. Now
>>> he's bidding on a Pulser by Expobar (he gets this tunnel vision thing).
>>> Actually, everything I read about Expobar indicates it is a reliable
>>> machine especially with the digital boiler control. BTW, this was the
>>> original Brewtus that retailed for about $2000 if I remember correctly?
>>
>> I thought the original Brewtus retailed for $1500.
>>
>> He's an idiot if he buys on Ebay. I was screwed on two espresso machines
>> over there. Cost me months of my life both times, plus real money. If
>> he "needs" to get a deal, just buy off of Wholelattelove's refurb site or
>> Coffeegeek's buy-sell forum.
>>
>> C
>>
>
>




      
Date: 08 Jul 2006 21:52:05
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: question about Expobar lever model


There's no doubt that ebay rewards the knowledgeable (and those able to
guess a mis-spellings and mis-listings). Sometimes very fine machines are
listed under obscure names that are relabels by importers. You also need to
know what NOT to buy - lemon brands, machines that are priced at more than
retail, etc. - remember you are only buying 1 machine so you can afford to
reject the 999 others that are listed. And be patient - watch the listing
for a couple of weeks, don't expect to find your machine TODAY. If the
thought of buying a machine that is missing something like the portafilters
doesn't bother you , there are bargains to be had, with a little luck. I
haven't been disappointed yet, but I know that others have. Be sure your
seller packs the machine well - UPS is brutal.





"Cordo" <cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com > wrote in message
news:e8msbr$qm7$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>I think buying off Ebay makes sense when you know a little bit about
>machines, and so are ready to change burrs on a grinder, or troubleshoot a
>broken pressurestat.
>
> But if you're an average consumer, you ought to view buying Italian made
> espresso equipment on Ebay akin to buying a Russian-made car on Ebay.
>
> C
>
> "Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:sJCdnZc_gY1SdjPZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> OTOH, I've bought several machines on ebay that were "steals".... NS
>> Elli, Olympia Cremina, NS Oscar, etc. at prices so low they are almost
>> embarrassing, from sellers that had no clue as to what they were selling
>> (and had mis-listed them accordingly). If you take the right precautions
>> ebay can be fine.
>>
>>
>> "Cordo" <cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:e8i32b$i41$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>
>>> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:tw%qg.359$vO.238@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> Sad to say, but your membership isn't growing today. Someone beat him
>>>> out on this one; but he's determined to spend his kids inheritance. Now
>>>> he's bidding on a Pulser by Expobar (he gets this tunnel vision thing).
>>>> Actually, everything I read about Expobar indicates it is a reliable
>>>> machine especially with the digital boiler control. BTW, this was the
>>>> original Brewtus that retailed for about $2000 if I remember correctly?
>>>
>>> I thought the original Brewtus retailed for $1500.
>>>
>>> He's an idiot if he buys on Ebay. I was screwed on two espresso
>>> machines over there. Cost me months of my life both times, plus real
>>> money. If he "needs" to get a deal, just buy off of Wholelattelove's
>>> refurb site or Coffeegeek's buy-sell forum.
>>>
>>> C
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




 
Date: 05 Jul 2006 13:07:20
From: Cordo
Subject: Re: question about Expobar lever model


Sure looks like an original Brewtus, but I'm not sure.

C

"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote in message
news:Xns97F777A42EA85rhharmonZhotmailcom@207.217.125.201...
> My neighbor is looking at this http://tinyurl.com/hwuz8 & asked my
> opinion.
> I've never laid eyes on one of these but from the pictures I had a few
> questions of my own, It looks like this Office Lever has the digital temp
> control like the Brewtus. Can anyone verify this for me before the auction
> ends. Sorry to wait 'til the last minute! ;*)
>
> Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
> --
> http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
> http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
> Remove "Z" to reply via email.




 
Date: 08 Jul 2006 06:49:58
From: daveb
Subject: Re: ebay deals


Cordo, with all due respect, you are wrong.

I agree w/ Jack.

P.S. I have a customer whose Gaggias I overhaul, they are offered with
a WARRANTY!

a good concept.

Dave
www.hitechespresso.com



Cordo wrote:
> I think buying off Ebay makes sense when you know a little bit about
> machines, and so are ready to change burrs on a grinder, or troubleshoot a
> broken pressurestat.
>
> But if you're an average consumer, you ought to view buying Italian made
> espresso equipment on Ebay akin to buying a Russian-made car on Ebay.
>
> C
>
> "Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:sJCdnZc_gY1SdjPZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > OTOH, I've bought several machines on ebay that were "steals".... NS Elli,
> > Olympia Cremina, NS Oscar, etc. at prices so low they are almost
> > embarrassing, from sellers that had no clue as to what they were selling
> > (and had mis-listed them accordingly). If you take the right precautions
> > ebay can be fine.
> >
> >
> > "Cordo" <cordoveroRemoveThis@RemoveThisyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:e8i32b$i41$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
> >>
> >> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:tw%qg.359$vO.238@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >>> Sad to say, but your membership isn't growing today. Someone beat him
> >>> out on this one; but he's determined to spend his kids inheritance. Now
> >>> he's bidding on a Pulser by Expobar (he gets this tunnel vision thing).
> >>> Actually, everything I read about Expobar indicates it is a reliable
> >>> machine especially with the digital boiler control. BTW, this was the
> >>> original Brewtus that retailed for about $2000 if I remember correctly?
> >>
> >> I thought the original Brewtus retailed for $1500.
> >>
> >> He's an idiot if he buys on Ebay. I was screwed on two espresso machines
> >> over there. Cost me months of my life both times, plus real money. If
> >> he "needs" to get a deal, just buy off of Wholelattelove's refurb site or
> >> Coffeegeek's buy-sell forum.
> >>
> >> C
> >>
> >
> >



  
Date: 08 Jul 2006 19:30:19
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: ebay deals


<snip >
>Cordo wrote:
>>
>> But if you're an average consumer, you ought to view buying Italian made
>> espresso equipment on Ebay akin to buying a Russian-made car on Ebay.
>>
>> C

If you're an average consumer, you don't have a clue about anything,
so it does not matter where you buy.

I can't begin to count how many friends and relatives have fancy
espresso machines and don't have the faintest idea about the machine
or making espresso.