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Date: 08 Jul 2006 23:30:13
From: Alan
Subject: retrofitting a Europicola with a pressure gauge?
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Would it be possible to retrofit a Europiccola with a pressure gauge?
Would it be advisable?
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Date: 08 Jul 2006 23:56:21
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: retrofitting a Europicola with a pressure gauge?
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Possible, yes. Advisable, why?
If memory serves (I just looked last week) the Europiccola & Pro have
different size holes tapped into the top of the sight tube. You could drill
it out & tap it for the right size or you could find a gauge from another
source to do the job.
What do you hope to gain from knowing the pressure? I've thought of putting
a temp probe on my Europiccola, but haven't followed up on it because it's
an old (late 60's early 70's) model whose function is decorative now. My Pro
has the gauge & I can't remember ever relying on it for anything other than
it being a good place to hang the power cord when not in use.
--
Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
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"Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:9eXrg.62946$fb2.49520@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> Would it be possible to retrofit a Europiccola with a pressure gauge?
> Would it be advisable?
>
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Date: 09 Jul 2006 00:41:47
From: Alan
Subject: Re: retrofitting a Europicola with a pressure gauge?
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"Robert Harmon" wrote
> Possible, yes. Advisable, why?
>
> If memory serves (I just looked last week) the Europiccola & Pro have
> different size holes tapped into the top of the sight tube. You could
> drill it out & tap it for the right size or you could find a gauge from
> another source to do the job.
>
> What do you hope to gain from knowing the pressure? I've thought of
> putting a temp probe on my Europiccola, but haven't followed up on it
> because it's an old (late 60's early 70's) model whose function is
> decorative now. My Pro has the gauge & I can't remember ever relying on it
> for anything other than it being a good place to hang the power cord when
> not in use.
> --
> Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
Thanks for your reply ---- since I didn't expect to be able to regulate the
pressure at all, I really didn't hope to gain anything other than the
satisfaction of my curiosity about how much pressure is being developed . .
.
> "Alan" wrote
>> Would it be possible to retrofit a Europiccola with a pressure gauge?
>> Would it be advisable?
>>
>
>
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 05:59:52
From: Ritske Rensma
Subject: Re: retrofitting a Europicola with a pressure gauge?
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Robert Harmon wrote:
"Possible, yes. Advisable, why? If memory serves (I just looked last
week) the Europiccola & Pro have different size holes tapped into the
top of the sight tube."
>From what I've read about this, this is only the case on the remodeled
Pavonis (made after 2000). On the old models, the holes used to be the
same size. The only problem if you have an old model is that the gauges
which Pavoni currently use appear to be a different size than the
pre-2000 hole! So if you have an old model, you would have to find an
old, pre-2000 Pavoni Gauge, which I guess would be pretty impossible.
Best thing to do is find a pressure gauge elsewhere that will screw
into whatever size the hole is. This could be tricky as well. There is,
however, another trick - see below.
On the newer models, Pavoni cleverly (annoyingly) made the hole on the
Europ. and the Prof. different sizes. However, there is appears to be a
trick to get around this. I was thinking of buying a second-hand 'newer
model' Europiccola the other day, so before I bought it I asked around
at different places that sell spare Pavoni parts about fitting a
pressure gauge. I got this reply:
Quote:
"hi Risked [sic], the new model can take the gauge by replacing the
upper sight glass retainer and also the gauge adapter that sits above
it. We
have all items in stock, the only tricky bit is getting the nut inside
the
boiler!"
I ended up buying an old pre-2000 Europiccola, though. This is what the
same shop said about fitting the current Pavoni gauge on the old model
Europ.:
Quote:
"The pressure gauge can be installed but you need to replace
the upper sight glass retainer with part number 31111441 which
the pressure gauge screws into."
Same reply as above, only no mention of a 'gauge adapter' (whatever
that may be). I haven't got around to actually doing all this stuff, so
I'm definitely not an expert. Just passing on whatever info I have from
the emails www.espressoservices.co.uk sent me. I agree with Robert that
a gauge isn't a matter of life or death - you can do without it.
However, for those who (like me) are hopelessly curious, a gauge
definitely has a certain appeal to it. :)
ritske
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 05:57:23
From: Ritske Rensma
Subject: Re: retrofitting a Europicola with a pressure gauge?
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Robert Harmon wrote:
> > Possible, yes. Advisable, why?
> > If memory serves (I just looked last week) the Europiccola & Pro have
> > different size holes tapped into the top of the sight tube.
>From what I've read about this, this is only the case on the remodeled
Pavonis (made after 2000). On the old models, the holes used to be the
same size. The only problem if you have an old model is that the gauges
which Pavoni currently use appear to be a different size than the
pre-2000 hole! So if you have an old model, you would have to find an
old, pre-2000 Pavoni Gauge, which I guess would be pretty impossible.
Best thing to do is find a pressure gauge elsewhere that will screw
into whatever size the hole is. This could be tricky as well. There is,
however, another trick - see below.
On the newer models, Pavoni cleverly (annoyingly) made the hole on the
Europ. and the Prof. different sizes. However, there is appears to be a
trick to get around this. I was thinking of buying a second-hand 'newer
model' Europiccola the other day, so before I bought it I asked around
at different places that sell spare Pavoni parts about fitting a
pressure gauge. I got this reply:
Quote:
"hi Risked [sic], the new model can take the gauge by replacing the
upper
sight glass retainer and also the gauge adapter that sits above it. We
have
all items in stock, the only tricky bit is getting the nut inside the
boiler!"
I ended up buying an old pre-2000 Europiccola, though. This is what the
same shop said about fitting the current Pavoni gauge on the old model
Europ.:
Quote:
"The pressure gauge can be installed but you need to replace
the upper sight glass retainer with part number 31111441 which
the pressure gauge screws into."
Same reply as above, only no mention of a 'gauge adapter' (whatever
that may be). I haven't got around to actually doing all this stuff, so
I'm definitely not an expert. Just passing on whatever info I have from
the emails www.espressoservices.co.uk sent me. I agree with Robert that
a gauge isn't a matter of life or death - you can do without it.
However, for those who (like me) are hopelessly curious, a gauge
definitely has a certain appeal to it. :)
ritske
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 00:40:44
From: Ritske Rensma
Subject: Re: retrofitting a Europicola with a pressure gauge?
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Robert Harmon wrote:
> > Possible, yes. Advisable, why?
> >
> > If memory serves (I just looked last week) the Europiccola & Pro have
> > different size holes tapped into the top of the sight tube.
>From what I've read about this, this is only the case on the remodeled
Pavonis (made after 2000). On the old models, the holes used to be the
same size. The only problem if you have an old model is that the gauges
which Pavoni currently use appear to be a different size than the
pre-2000 hole! So if you have an old model, you would have to find an
old, pre-2000 Pavoni Gauge, which I guess would be pretty impossible.
Best thing to do is find a pressure gauge elsewhere that will screw
into whatever size the hole is. This could be tricky as well. There is,
however, another trick - see below.
On the newer models, Pavoni cleverly (annoyingly) made the hole on the
Europ. and the Prof. different sizes. However, there is appears to be a
trick to get around this. I was thinking of buying a second-hand 'newer
model' Europiccola the other day, so before I bought it I asked around
at different places that sell spare Pavoni parts about fitting a
pressure gauge. I got this reply:
Quote:
"hi Risked [sic], the new model can take the gauge by replacing the
upper
sight glass retainer and also the gauge adapter that sits above it. We
have
all items in stock, the only tricky bit is getting the nut inside the
boiler!"
I ended up buying an old pre-2000 Europiccola, though. This is what the
same shop said about fitting the current Pavoni gauge on the old model
Europ.:
Quote:
"The pressure gauge can be installed but you need to replace
the upper sight glass retainer with part number 31111441 which
the pressure gauge screws into."
Same reply as above, only no mention of a 'gauge adapter' (whatever
that may be). I haven't got around to actually doing all this stuff, so
I'm definitely not an expert. Just passing on whatever info I have from
the emails www.espressoservices.co.uk sent me. I agree with Robert that
a gauge isn't a matter of life or death - you can do without it.
However, for those who (like me) are hopelessly curious, a gauge
definitely has a certain appeal to it. :)
ritske
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