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Date: 28 Jun 2006 21:04:25
From: Randy G.
Subject: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt (Killawatt)
Details at:
http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
The page includes downloadable brochure and manual.
At the SUperMediaStore.com the Sale Price: $22.95
Use coupon code "dealnews" and get it for $18.93 +$7 shipping. That's
about $2 under the lowest shipped price I could find.
No I am not connected to SuperMediaStore.com
NO I am not connected with Deal News.com
NO I don't make any money if you buy this.
Randy "save a guy some money and it pisses him off" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 22:25:41
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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of course if you aren't going to actually use the thing to change your
behavior (by turning electrical things off or disposing of them) then I know
a good way to save $25.93 . . . . .
ken
"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:pkj6a21n11u9b593g2l89t8iuaviq824ka@4ax.com...
> P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt (Killawatt)
> Details at:
> http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
> The page includes downloadable brochure and manual.
>
> At the SUperMediaStore.com the Sale Price: $22.95
> Use coupon code "dealnews" and get it for $18.93 +$7 shipping. That's
> about $2 under the lowest shipped price I could find.
>
> No I am not connected to SuperMediaStore.com
> NO I am not connected with Deal News.com
> NO I don't make any money if you buy this.
>
>
> Randy "save a guy some money and it pisses him off" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 04:12:32
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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Thanks Randy - ordered mine tonight.
Robert
"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:pkj6a21n11u9b593g2l89t8iuaviq824ka@4ax.com...
> P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt (Killawatt)
> Details at:
> http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
> The page includes downloadable brochure and manual.
>
> At the SUperMediaStore.com the Sale Price: $22.95
> Use coupon code "dealnews" and get it for $18.93 +$7 shipping. That's
> about $2 under the lowest shipped price I could find.
>
> No I am not connected to SuperMediaStore.com
> NO I am not connected with Deal News.com
> NO I don't make any money if you buy this.
>
>
> Randy "save a guy some money and it pisses him off" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 21:06:36
From: John Frank
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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Randy G. wrote:
> P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt (Killawatt)
> Details at:
> http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
> The page includes downloadable brochure and manual.
>
> At the SUperMediaStore.com the Sale Price: $22.95
> Use coupon code "dealnews" and get it for $18.93 +$7 shipping. That's
> about $2 under the lowest shipped price I could find.
>
> No I am not connected to SuperMediaStore.com
> NO I am not connected with Deal News.com
> NO I don't make any money if you buy this.
>
>
> Randy "save a guy some money and it pisses him off" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
Thanks for posting these items, Randy... and please keep doing so.
John
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 08:40:17
From: Alan
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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Rats, says coupon code expired.
Ordered one anyway, because I had been interested in getting something
like this since I saw my dad had one.
Randy G. wrote:
> P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt (Killawatt)
> Details at:
> http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
> The page includes downloadable brochure and manual.
>
> At the SUperMediaStore.com the Sale Price: $22.95
> Use coupon code "dealnews" and get it for $18.93 +$7 shipping. That's
> about $2 under the lowest shipped price I could find.
>
> No I am not connected to SuperMediaStore.com
> NO I am not connected with Deal News.com
> NO I don't make any money if you buy this.
>
>
> Randy "save a guy some money and it pisses him off" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 06:55:58
From:
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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daveb wrote:
> I think we ALL should be helping by looking for bargains and posting
> them here!!
>
> "A penny saved is a penny earned"
>
> dave "bj87inj6tnfyxx" b
>
> www.hitechespresso.com
>
COFFEE related bargains, maybe. Lets keep the electronics and sex
related toys to their respective boards, shall we?
Marty
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 20:07:38
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 21:01:57
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:07:38 GMT, ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D.
Ross) wrote:
>
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 21:32:50
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 22:47:37
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:32:50 GMT, ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D.
Ross) wrote:
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 05:16:09
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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[snip]
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 05:04:57
From: daveb
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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I think we ALL should be helping by looking for bargains and posting
them here!!
"A penny saved is a penny earned"
dave "bj87inj6tnfyxx" b
www.hitechespresso.com
martyminor11@yahoo.com wrote:
> Randy G. wrote:
> > P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt (Killawatt)
> > Details at:
> > http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
> > The page includes downloadable brochure and manual.
> >
> ...snip...
> > No I am not connected to SuperMediaStore.com
> > NO I am not connected with Deal News.com
> > NO I don't make any money if you buy this.
> >
> >
> > Randy "save a guy some money and it pisses him off" G.
> > http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
> Gee thanks Randy "I will make you a millionaire yet with the postings
> of savings I provide alt.coffee" G.
>
> I am going to purchase your latest suggestion to check out how much
> power comsumption my battery charger uses for my wireless mouse. And
> after that I may even venture to see how many watts my 60 watt light
> bulbs use. Then, who knows! I may even check out the current output
> of my neighbors outdoor outlets.
>
> Randy is the Best. Hurray for Randy. Randy kicks ass.
>
> Marty
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 04:58:06
From: daveb
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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Great shit from rg!
THANKS!
Dave "fy6hnu78kfnjiby7" b
Randy G. wrote:
> P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt (Killawatt)
> Details at:
> http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
> The page includes downloadable brochure and manual.
>
> At the SUperMediaStore.com the Sale Price: $22.95
> Use coupon code "dealnews" and get it for $18.93 +$7 shipping. That's
> about $2 under the lowest shipped price I could find.
>
> No I am not connected to SuperMediaStore.com
> NO I am not connected with Deal News.com
> NO I don't make any money if you buy this.
>
>
> Randy "save a guy some money and it pisses him off" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 06:48:36
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:04:25 -0700, Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com >
wrote:
>P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt (Killawatt)
>Details at:
>http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
>The page includes downloadable brochure and manual.
>
>At the SUperMediaStore.com the Sale Price: $22.95
>Use coupon code "dealnews" and get it for $18.93 +$7 shipping. That's
>about $2 under the lowest shipped price I could find.
>
>No I am not connected to SuperMediaStore.com
>NO I am not connected with Deal News.com
>NO I don't make any money if you buy this.
>
>
> Randy "save a guy some money and it pisses him off" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
actually, Randy "tempting a guy to part with some green for something
of extremely marginal utility that probably won't last very long" G.
save money by putting it somewhere it will make more.
Some may appreciate these notices, some certainly don't. If related to
COFFEE, post away. This one is a bit far afield, IMO.
Before hitting send, ask:
- who here gives a damn about $2? $20?
- who here is realistically going to go around their abode, plug in
all their electrical stuff, write it all down, do the math and decide
"I gotta junk the 50"HD TV 'cause it sucks more juice than my roaster,
expresso machine and grinder combined"?
And thanks for the http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com website. It's a
lot of work and I appreciate your passion.
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 08:29:26
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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"I- >Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:04:25 -0700, Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt (Killawatt)
>>Details at:
>>http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
>>The page includes downloadable brochure and manual.
>>
>
>actually, Randy "tempting a guy to part with some green for something
>of extremely marginal utility that probably won't last very long" G.
>
>save money by putting it somewhere it will make more.
>
>Some may appreciate these notices, some certainly don't. If related to
>COFFEE, post away. This one is a bit far afield, IMO.
>
>Before hitting send, ask:
>
> - who here gives a damn about $2? $20?
>
> - who here is realistically going to go around their abode, plug in
>all their electrical stuff, write it all down, do the math and decide
>"I gotta junk the 50"HD TV 'cause it sucks more juice than my roaster,
>expresso machine and grinder combined"?
>
How about thinking outside the box you're in? You could plug your
Hottop into it to monitor the heater elements' functioning in order to
learn how the machine works....?
Randy "it isn't a hammer" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 16:42:04
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:29:26 -0700, Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com >
wrote:
>"I->Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:04:25 -0700, Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt (Killawatt)
>>>Details at:
>>>http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
>>>The page includes downloadable brochure and manual.
>>>
>>
>>actually, Randy "tempting a guy to part with some green for something
>>of extremely marginal utility that probably won't last very long" G.
>>
>>save money by putting it somewhere it will make more.
>>
>>Some may appreciate these notices, some certainly don't. If related to
>>COFFEE, post away. This one is a bit far afield, IMO.
>>
>>Before hitting send, ask:
>>
>> - who here gives a damn about $2? $20?
>>
>> - who here is realistically going to go around their abode, plug in
>>all their electrical stuff, write it all down, do the math and decide
>>"I gotta junk the 50"HD TV 'cause it sucks more juice than my roaster,
>>expresso machine and grinder combined"?
>>
>How about thinking outside the box you're in?
Ouch. General suggestions elicit personal retorts. OOPs, forgot, this
is alt.coffee...
> You could plug your
>Hottop into it to monitor the heater elements' functioning in order to
>learn how the machine works....?
>
can already get a that limited information from the Volt meter on the
Variac. Or get a very good approximation with a $2 VOM plugged into
the wall socket. OR look in the glass window and listen to the fan...
Of course, when I really want to know, I'll hook up a 100kHz multi
channel A/D and get accurate data...
... or fuggeddabowdit and just send Pawlan $2800
> Randy "it isn't a hammer" G.
>http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>
Ian "building a better box" E.
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 18:16:36
From:
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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In alt.coffee, Randy G. <frcn@despammocncnet.com > wrote:
> How about thinking outside the box you're in? You could plug your
> Hottop into it to monitor the heater elements' functioning in order to
> learn how the machine works....?
I was thinking it might work well on my roaster. I don't know how much
current the thing pulls. Maybe a 20 amp circuit would allow bigger loads?
I already have a 12 gauge cord on it. But when I flip the switch and turn
on the heater, the fan slows. Could I use such a meter to find the
bottleneck?
--
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
--Edward R. Murrow
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Date: 29 Jun 2006 18:39:57
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:16:36 +0000 (UTC), EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com
wrote:
>In alt.coffee, Randy G. <frcn@despammocncnet.com> wrote:
>
>> How about thinking outside the box you're in? You could plug your
>> Hottop into it to monitor the heater elements' functioning in order to
>> learn how the machine works....?
>
>I was thinking it might work well on my roaster.
It's another connection in series with the roaster, so will drop the
available voltage ever so slightly. Use a VOM in parallel to find out
what the voltage is doing. Use an Amp Clamp if you want to know the
current.
> I don't know how much
>current the thing pulls.
I think it draws about 7 amps.
> Maybe a 20 amp circuit would allow bigger loads?
ONLY if there is a significant V drop on the circuit. A 20 amp circuit
will still only deliver ~110 if that's what's coming off the pole. A
variac allow you to standardize the element voltage.
>
>I already have a 12 gauge cord on it. But when I flip the switch and turn
>on the heater, the fan slows. Could I use such a meter to find the
>bottleneck?
What else is on the circuit and is powered when you roast that might
draw significant current? Fridge?
Roughly speaking, ~120 becomes ~117 under load with only a couple of
junctions and 100' of 12ga wire.
Plugging close to the distribitution panel will give you a volt or two
more. A dedicated circuit with no other loads might help.
A friend with a home studio was having problems with some gear. Using
a VOM, it was determined that when the AirCon came on he was barely
getting 108 from the street. DWP replaced the transformer. Problem
solved.
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 12:27:50
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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There are power conditioners (voltage regulators) that will correct slight
undervoltage problems:
http://www.superwarehouse.com/APC_Line_R_1200VA/LE1200/p/286058
but if you are getting low voltage at your outlets it's certainly worth
investigating what's going on - whether you have a high resistance
connection somewhere in your wall waiting to catch fire, etc. It's true that
you may lose a few volts on a long run, under load, on days in the summer
when the power co. cuts the voltage a little, etc. and most devices will
tolerate a few volts undervoltage without any problem.
"I- >Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:qe68a296608u1ijebgrr4kfffrtkeot029@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:16:36 +0000 (UTC), EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com
> wrote:
>
>>In alt.coffee, Randy G. <frcn@despammocncnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How about thinking outside the box you're in? You could plug your
>>> Hottop into it to monitor the heater elements' functioning in order to
>>> learn how the machine works....?
>>
>>I was thinking it might work well on my roaster.
>
> It's another connection in series with the roaster, so will drop the
> available voltage ever so slightly. Use a VOM in parallel to find out
> what the voltage is doing. Use an Amp Clamp if you want to know the
> current.
>
>> I don't know how much
>>current the thing pulls.
>
> I think it draws about 7 amps.
>
>> Maybe a 20 amp circuit would allow bigger loads?
>
> ONLY if there is a significant V drop on the circuit. A 20 amp circuit
> will still only deliver ~110 if that's what's coming off the pole. A
> variac allow you to standardize the element voltage.
>
>>
>>I already have a 12 gauge cord on it. But when I flip the switch and turn
>>on the heater, the fan slows. Could I use such a meter to find the
>>bottleneck?
> What else is on the circuit and is powered when you roast that might
> draw significant current? Fridge?
>
> Roughly speaking, ~120 becomes ~117 under load with only a couple of
> junctions and 100' of 12ga wire.
>
> Plugging close to the distribitution panel will give you a volt or two
> more. A dedicated circuit with no other loads might help.
>
> A friend with a home studio was having problems with some gear. Using
> a VOM, it was determined that when the AirCon came on he was barely
> getting 108 from the street. DWP replaced the transformer. Problem
> solved.
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 10:50:03
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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"I- >Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>A friend with a home studio was having problems with some gear. Using
>a VOM, it was determined that when the AirCon came on he was barely
>getting 108 from the street. DWP replaced the transformer. Problem
>solved.
>
A good friend back in the early 1970's, living alone in a small
apartment had an electrical buill that was about triple of ours. We
told him that there was a problem and to call the electrical company.
They came out, messed around, and suddenly his bill dropped about 80%
or so. Turns out they had the 3-story building's elevator wired into
his meter!
Randy "Going UP!" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 28 Jun 2006 22:27:31
From:
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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Randy G. wrote:
> P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt (Killawatt)
> Details at:
> http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
> The page includes downloadable brochure and manual.
>
...snip...
> No I am not connected to SuperMediaStore.com
> NO I am not connected with Deal News.com
> NO I don't make any money if you buy this.
>
>
> Randy "save a guy some money and it pisses him off" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
Gee thanks Randy "I will make you a millionaire yet with the postings
of savings I provide alt.coffee" G.
I am going to purchase your latest suggestion to check out how much
power comsumption my battery charger uses for my wireless mouse. And
after that I may even venture to see how many watts my 60 watt light
bulbs use. Then, who knows! I may even check out the current output
of my neighbors outdoor outlets.
Randy is the Best. Hurray for Randy. Randy kicks ass.
Marty
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 09:40:54
From: daveb
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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<< well, he made no such connection, and this thing could really be
used for at least a zillion other timekill experiments, you gotta
admit.
but for $20 or so, it does have an amusement factor.
Dave "cft6gh5b" b
877 286 2833
>
> In any event, I didn't post to advocate purchase of this device, only to
> point out that Randy's link to it had a coffee connection.
>
> - David R.
> --
> Less information than you ever thought possible:
> http://www.demitasse.net
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Date: 30 Jun 2006 19:53:08
From:
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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Alan wrote:
> Rats, says coupon code expired.
>
> Ordered one anyway, because I had been interested in getting something
> like this since I saw my dad had one.
>
Coupon expired. That is like so typical, isn't it?
An off topic post about something to buy, enticing you with a coupon
that has expired.
Thanks Randy "I heard of a big bridge in New York thats for sale, real
cheap" G.
Marty
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Date: 01 Jul 2006 05:28:43
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: sale on Kill-A-Watt meter
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C'mon now. Randy is trying to help folks. The delete key is near if
you aren't interested. No point in trashing someone for being helpful.
martyminor11@yahoo.com wrote:
> Alan wrote:
> > Rats, says coupon code expired.
> >
> > Ordered one anyway, because I had been interested in getting something
> > like this since I saw my dad had one.
> >
>
> Coupon expired. That is like so typical, isn't it?
>
> An off topic post about something to buy, enticing you with a coupon
> that has expired.
>
> Thanks Randy "I heard of a big bridge in New York thats for sale, real
> cheap" G.
>
> Marty
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