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Date: 31 Dec 2006 18:55:32
From: Donn Cave
Subject: coffee cherry face cream
The new crop on my coffee plant has been a little disappointing - my
first experience with the coffee cherry, I'm finding it to be more like
a rind than a cherry, a slightly sweet but sort of weedy tasting. The
coffee cherry wine idea that I had long cherished is definitely out.

But someone seems to have figured out what to do with them. Associated
Press article in this mornings paper touts a new face cream from Revale
Skin, with `coffeeberry extract.' Will be sold by dermatologists and
plastic surgeons.

`The coffeeberry has been tested to show higher levels of antioxidants
than pomegranate or white tea and it has high levels of polyphenols, which
are touted as a defense to cellular damage of the skin.

`Better yet, adds Wells, it protects from UVA and UVB rays -- fitting in
with that `don't-be-too-tanned' look [bronzers are out, we learn] and it
also provides significant hydration.'

Donn




 
Date: 02 Jan 2007 17:59:48
From: Felix
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
k (Lavarock) writes:
> Requests from the mainland are already starting to come
> in to see how we can ship them cherry.
>
> I wonder if they know that we prefer to sell it as roasted
> because the profit is a bit higher? :)

Maybe the Mexican plantation that supplies the cherries does so because
it can't come close to matching (1) Vietnamese robusta's price, and (2)
Esmeralda's quality. You're safe ... for now :-)


Felix



 
Date: 01 Jan 2007 15:37:55
From: Felix
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
Cea (beans@smithfarms.com) writes:
> You are correct. My skepticism was unwarranted.
> Similar to what is out my window here. Thank you.

You're welcome. Is skepticism ever unwarranted :-)

I can almost imagine Barry complaining about the rubbery taste in his
nutrition bar ...


Felix



  
Date: 02 Jan 2007 06:56:21
From: Lavarock
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
Felix wrote:
> Cea (beans@smithfarms.com) writes:
>> You are correct. My skepticism was unwarranted.
>> Similar to what is out my window here. Thank you.
>
> You're welcome. Is skepticism ever unwarranted :-)
>
> I can almost imagine Barry complaining about the rubbery taste in his
> nutrition bar ...
>
>
> Felix
>

Requests from the mainland are already starting to come in to see how we
can ship them cherry.

I wonder if they know that we prefer to sell it as roasted because the
profit is a bit higher? :)


k

--

They said that someone has to live in Hawaii ad I raised my hand first!


   
Date: 02 Jan 2007 15:29:14
From:
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 06:56:21 GMT, Lavarock
<lavarock1@myhawaiiansite.com > wrote:

>Felix wrote:
>> Cea (beans@smithfarms.com) writes:
>>> You are correct. My skepticism was unwarranted.
>>> Similar to what is out my window here. Thank you.
>>
>> You're welcome. Is skepticism ever unwarranted :-)
>>
>> I can almost imagine Barry complaining about the rubbery taste in
his
>> nutrition bar ...
>>
>>
>> Felix
>>
>
>Requests from the mainland are already starting to come in to see how
we
>can ship them cherry.
>
>I wonder if they know that we prefer to sell it as roasted because
the
>profit is a bit higher? :)
>
>
>k

Of course, it is against our State of Agriculture law to send any
fresh cherry to the mainland. they won't even let us take fresh
coffee cherry to the SCAA.

Think it is a fruit fly issue.

Darn.

aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email


    
Date: 04 Jan 2007 03:50:36
From: Mathew Hargreaves
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
Does that mean I am a fruit fly? After all, I wanted the husks to try
brewing Kishr (coffee tea).

CHEERS...Matt

beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>
> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 06:56:21 GMT, Lavarock
> <lavarock1@myhawaiiansite.com> wrote:
>
> >Felix wrote:
> >> Cea (beans@smithfarms.com) writes:
> >>> You are correct. My skepticism was unwarranted.
> >>> Similar to what is out my window here. Thank you.
> >>
> >> You're welcome. Is skepticism ever unwarranted :-)
> >>
> >> I can almost imagine Barry complaining about the rubbery taste in
> his
> >> nutrition bar ...
> >>
> >>
> >> Felix
> >>
> >
> >Requests from the mainland are already starting to come in to see how
> we
> >can ship them cherry.
> >
> >I wonder if they know that we prefer to sell it as roasted because
> the
> >profit is a bit higher? :)
> >
> >
> >k
>
> Of course, it is against our State of Agriculture law to send any
> fresh cherry to the mainland. they won't even let us take fresh
> coffee cherry to the SCAA.
>
> Think it is a fruit fly issue.
>
> Darn.
>
> aloha,
> Cea
> --smithfarms.com
> farmers of pure kona
> roast beans to kona to email


     
Date: 03 Jan 2007 18:11:11
From:
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 03:50:36 GMT, Mathew Hargreaves
<mathewdh@worldnet.att.net > wrote:

>Does that mean I am a fruit fly? After all, I wanted the husks to try
>brewing Kishr (coffee tea).
>
>CHEERS...Matt
>

Well if they are dry as in parchment, it ought to be okay. It's the
wet moist stuff that fruit flies and the face cream people want.

Did you ever write to a big miller to asks for their parchment husks?

aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email


      
Date: 05 Jan 2007 02:35:41
From: Mathew Hargreaves
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
Hi Cea,

I still intend to follow through with it. The holidays and work
kept me buried. But there was still plenty of sugar around to keep a
fruit fly happy.

CHEERS...Matt

beans@smithfarms.com wrote:
>
> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 03:50:36 GMT, Mathew Hargreaves
> <mathewdh@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Does that mean I am a fruit fly? After all, I wanted the husks to try
> >brewing Kishr (coffee tea).
> >
> >CHEERS...Matt
> >
>
> Well if they are dry as in parchment, it ought to be okay. It's the
> wet moist stuff that fruit flies and the face cream people want.
>
> Did you ever write to a big miller to asks for their parchment husks?
>
> aloha,
> Cea
> --smithfarms.com
> farmers of pure kona
> roast beans to kona to email


 
Date: 01 Jan 2007 12:12:32
From: Felix
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
Cea (beans@smithfarms.com) writes:
> I do not see its scientific name anywhere in the article.
> And skeptically:), maybe they might want to soft-link it
> with coffee for the ease of advertising?

Or maybe they underestimate their audience. There are references to
arabica and canephora on slide 7 (The World of Coffee-Growing Regions)
of this presentation:
http://www.coffeeberry.org/powerpoint/CFBPresentationJuly2005.htm

> seems just like another sell-to-ladies-for-youth company.

Allure fits that description, but the companies keting the extract
also want us to eat it:
http://www.coffeeberry.org/taste.htm

Maybe I'll be stirring it into my coffee someday :-)


Felix



  
Date: 01 Jan 2007 12:25:24
From:
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
On 1 Jan 2007 12:12:32 -0800, "Felix" <felixyen@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Cea (beans@smithfarms.com) writes:
>> I do not see its scientific name anywhere in the article.
>> And skeptically:), maybe they might want to soft-link it
>> with coffee for the ease of advertising?
>
>Or maybe they underestimate their audience. There are references to
>arabica and canephora on slide 7 (The World of Coffee-Growing
Regions)
>of this presentation:
>http://www.coffeeberry.org/powerpoint/CFBPresentationJuly2005.htm
>
>> seems just like another sell-to-ladies-for-youth company.
>
>Allure fits that description, but the companies keting the extract
>also want us to eat it:
>http://www.coffeeberry.org/taste.htm
>
>Maybe I'll be stirring it into my coffee someday :-)
>
>
>Felix

You are correct. My skepticism was unwarranted. Similar to what is
out my window here. Thank you.

aloha,
beans
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email


 
Date: 31 Dec 2006 18:19:39
From: Felix
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
Cea (beans@smithfarms.com) writes:
> I read the same article and believe it is an entirely different plant.

The article isn't very clear in this respect, but I think it's the same
plant based on a New Chapter press release:
http://www.new-chapter.com/media/press_releases/2006_03_20.html

Hopefully, non-arabica varieties are just as effective in this respect.


Felix



  
Date: 01 Jan 2007 06:24:09
From:
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
On 31 Dec 2006 18:19:39 -0800, "Felix" <felixyen@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Cea (beans@smithfarms.com) writes:
>> I read the same article and believe it is an entirely different
plant.
>
>The article isn't very clear in this respect, but I think it's the
same
>plant based on a New Chapter press release:
>http://www.new-chapter.com/media/press_releases/2006_03_20.html
>
>Hopefully, non-arabica varieties are just as effective in this
respect.
>
>
>Felix

Hmm, thanks Felix. I do not see its scientific name anywhere in the
article. And skeptically:), maybe they might want to soft-link it
with coffee for the ease of advertising? I agree they do try to pedal
it as coffee related but then again the basic company seems just like
another sell-to-ladies-for-youth company.

Interesting. Thank you!

aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email


 
Date: 31 Dec 2006 10:03:14
From:
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
On 31 Dec 2006 18:55:32 GMT, "Donn Cave" <donn@drizzle.com > wrote:

>The new crop on my coffee plant has been a little disappointing - my
>first experience with the coffee cherry, I'm finding it to be more
like
>a rind than a cherry, a slightly sweet but sort of weedy tasting. The
>coffee cherry wine idea that I had long cherished is definitely out.
>
>But someone seems to have figured out what to do with them.
Associated
>Press article in this mornings paper touts a new face cream from
Revale
>Skin, with `coffeeberry extract.' Will be sold by dermatologists and
>plastic surgeons.
>
>`The coffeeberry has been tested to show higher levels of
antioxidants
>than pomegranate or white tea and it has high levels of polyphenols,
which
>are touted as a defense to cellular damage of the skin.
>
>`Better yet, adds Wells, it protects from UVA and UVB rays -- fitting
in
>with that `don't-be-too-tanned' look [bronzers are out, we learn] and
it
>also provides significant hydration.'
>
> Donn

I read the same article and believe it is an entirely different plant.

People often want to make a coffee wine etc. but it never proves out.
We always have lots of cherry skins so that's why the idea keeps
popping up. Don't really work too hard on it:).

aloha,
Cea
--smithfarms.com
farmers of pure kona
roast beans to kona to email


  
Date: 10 Jan 2007 06:17:50
From: B. Wright
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
beans@smithfarms.com wrote:

> People often want to make a coffee wine etc. but it never proves out.
> We always have lots of cherry skins so that's why the idea keeps
> popping up. Don't really work too hard on it:).

What about coffee cherry beer or using them only as a second
fermentation in making beer? Never tasted the actual coffee fruit
itself, does it have a lot of sugars in it? Good? Disgusting? I'm
curious if it's something you'd actually want to eat as a fruit or not.



   
Date: 12 Jan 2007 06:10:43
From: Donn Cave
Subject: Re: coffee cherry face cream
Quoth "B. Wright" <bmwright@xmission.com >: