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Date: 03 Mar 2007 07:22:41
From: phreaddy
Subject: descaling questions
My Silvia is just over three years old. I descaled her regularly
enough the first year with CleanCaf that I never saw anything come out
(besides, that stuff has dye in it.) But I just descaled for the first
time last night in about two years (two kids = neglected maintenance)
and I used citric acid. Should I have seen any chunks, floaties, etc.
come out? The first batch came out slightly greenish, which I know is
just the normal corrosion from the brass boiler. But that's all. I
used 2 tablespoons per quart, and did that about three times, waiting
10 minutes, then 20, and 20 more each time. I usually make two to four
cappucinos per day, with Brita-filtered, good ol' New York City tap
water (the purest big-city tap water in the country.)





 
Date: 03 Mar 2007 12:49:27
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: descaling questions
NYC water is exceptionally low in hardness and I would not have expected big
chunks of scale. The horror stories you hear of boilers with rocks in them
come from area where the water is MUCH harder. If anything NY water is too
low in minerals for best tasting espresso. I'd get something that is an all
carbon filter - the Brita has resins that soften your already too soft
water.


"phreaddy" <phreaddy@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1172935361.490001.273730@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> My Silvia is just over three years old. I descaled her regularly
> enough the first year with CleanCaf that I never saw anything come out
> (besides, that stuff has dye in it.) But I just descaled for the first
> time last night in about two years (two kids = neglected maintenance)
> and I used citric acid. Should I have seen any chunks, floaties, etc.
> come out? The first batch came out slightly greenish, which I know is
> just the normal corrosion from the brass boiler. But that's all. I
> used 2 tablespoons per quart, and did that about three times, waiting
> 10 minutes, then 20, and 20 more each time. I usually make two to four
> cappucinos per day, with Brita-filtered, good ol' New York City tap
> water (the purest big-city tap water in the country.)
>
>




 
Date: 03 Mar 2007 09:26:53
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: descaling questions
On 3, 10:22 am, "phreaddy" <phrea...@gmail.com > wrote:
> My Silvia is just over three years old. I descaled her regularly
> enough the first year with CleanCaf that I never saw anything come out
> (besides, that stuff has dye in it.) But I just descaled for the first
> time last night in about two years (two kids = neglected maintenance)
> and I used citric acid. Should I have seen any chunks, floaties, etc.
> come out? The first batch came out slightly greenish, which I know is
> just the normal corrosion from the brass boiler. But that's all. I
> used 2 tablespoons per quart, and did that about three times, waiting
> 10 minutes, then 20, and 20 more each time. I usually make two to four
> cappucinos per day, with Brita-filtered, good ol' New York City tap
> water (the purest big-city tap water in the country.)


I've vinegar and dollar bottles of lime concentrate from Walt,
although never let it setup that long without a cleaning. I've heavy
lime concentrate in the water. I also leave the solubles in for
several hours before flushing. Screw out the showerhead and start
flushing. May see some larger pieces of scale at first, but the water
remains cloudy (stainless steel boiler) forever with sedement, many
flushes after. Six or ten times around emptying a mini 6 oz. coffee
pot and my arm's tired. Good enough. With vinegar, add a touch of
lime and a once through to freshen things up. Only if it had a quick-
release shower head for cleaning between shots. (Yea, I watched a
documentary on how the aqueducts were constructed for NYC.)



 
Date: 03 Mar 2007 10:51:27
From: daveb
Subject: Re: descaling question
Sounds OK.

since you keep up with your descaling, the chunks are being dissolved by the
chemical.

= good!

IMO, I'd go back to cleancaf.

dave
saeco / gaggia service SE


"phreaddy" <phreaddy@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1172935361.490001.273730@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> My Silvia is just over three years old. I descaled her regularly
> enough the first year with CleanCaf that I never saw anything come out
> (besides, that stuff has dye in it.) But I just descaled for the first
> time last night in about two years (two kids = neglected maintenance)
> and I used citric acid. Should I have seen any chunks, floaties, etc.
> come out? The first batch came out slightly greenish, which I know is
> just the normal corrosion from the brass boiler. But that's all. I
> used 2 tablespoons per quart, and did that about three times, waiting
> 10 minutes, then 20, and 20 more each time. I usually make two to four
> cappucinos per day, with Brita-filtered, good ol' New York City tap
> water (the purest big-city tap water in the country.)
>