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Date: 14 Sep 2007 06:54:50
From: shane
Subject: electric kettles
I use at electric kettle to boil the water to make coffee at work.
Currently the one I use is a plastic body with a heating element in
the bottom. It works quite well for me to make coffee at my desk.

Are non-plastic electric kettles still made? I have not been able to
find any.

Shane





 
Date: 18 Sep 2007 13:58:39
From: shane
Subject: Re: electric kettles
On Sep 18, 6:44 am, Felix <felix...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Rich Adams <....@kc.rr.com> writes:
> > I then got this:
> > http://www.amazon.com/Toastess-Cordless-Electric-Glass-Kettle/dp/B000...
>
> Ah, Canadian ... though all these things are probably Asian by now,
> unless you buy a used one. Here's a summary by another Toastess
> dealer:http://www.russell-hobbs.com/
>
> And then there's the stylish Russell Hobbs 13421:http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPO-Russell-Hobbs-RUSSELL-HOBBS-13421
>
> Felix

I really like the idea of the Chef's Choice cordless electric French
Press. One less item to clutter up my desk.

The Toastess looks just like the Capresso.
Russell Hobbs looks to be a UK product and would be 220, oh well.

Personally, I am not so concerned with an exact temp. I just want to
boil water quickly, let it cool for a moment and put the grounds in.

Shane




 
Date: 18 Sep 2007 04:44:56
From: Felix
Subject: Re: electric kettles
Rich Adams <...@kc.rr.com > writes:
> I then got this:
> http://www.amazon.com/Toastess-Cordless-Electric-Glass-Kettle/dp/B000...

Ah, Canadian ... though all these things are probably Asian by now,
unless you buy a used one. Here's a summary by another Toastess
dealer:
http://www.russell-hobbs.com/

And then there's the stylish Russell Hobbs 13421:
http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPO-Russell-Hobbs-RUSSELL-HOBBS-13421


Felix



 
Date: 17 Sep 2007 12:36:45
From: DavidMLewis
Subject: Re: electric kettles
On Sep 14, 6:54 am, shane <shane.ol...@juno.com > wrote:
> Are non-plastic electric kettles still made? I have not been able to
> find any.
>
There are actually lots of them. Here are some: <http://
www.chefschoice.com/page2g.html >. The model 678 is the one we use, the
677 has a slightly cheesy switch, in my experience. The 685 is more
expensive but lets you bypass the Flash Gordon aesthetics. Here are
some more: <http://www.russellhobbs.com/products/index.aspx?path=/
products/kettles >. Zojirushi makes much fancier ones if you want
precise temperature.

Best,
David



 
Date: 15 Sep 2007 14:46:33
From: opother
Subject: Re: electric kettles
On Sep 14, 6:32 pm, "Ed Needham" <e...@NOSPAMhomeroaster.com > wrote:
> "Randall Nortman" <usenet8...@wonderclown.com> wrote in message
>
> news:13elalf8ih4vsb9@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I'm seeing lots of stainless models, but the Melitta looks plastic.
> > Maybe they don't make your model anymore?
>
> Many of them say stainless but look like plastic on the outside. I believe
> they are stainless on the inside.
>
> You mentioned you want a controllable thermostat. You probably want the
> Zojirushi if you don't mind spending $$$ to get it.http://www.zojirushi.com/ourproducts/elepots/cd_lcc.html
> --
> *********************
> Ed Needham
> "to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com
> *********************
***********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************


I checked the website and the zojirushi FAQ states the heating time
is 30-40 minutes and that they are meant to maintain the water temp
for long periods rather then heat up the water fast. That is way too
long for me and I prefere fresh water rather than heated water that
has been sitting around, especially with teas. I don't know if there
are other zojirushi models that are different.

Why complicate things any more than necessary. A regular electric
fast heat kettle with an old fashioned analog thermometer installed,
an adjustable timer, and auto shut-off (cheap quaility reliable click
thermostat) at boiling point would be just perfect and maybe throw in
a whistler for a couple of bucks extra. That would be my ideal
electric tea kettle. It only takes about 1-3 minutes to cool down from
boiling to get the proper temp for whatever tea (or for coffee even
less) you are brewing and when you get familiar with the brewing times
just set the timer for your preference or flick the switch off at the
right moment. The heart of the unit would be the thermometer your eyes
and the ability to read it and make the right adjustments FOR YOUR
NEEDS (ie altitude, environment, personal tastes etc.)

I like the ability to moniter and fully control my brew temperatures
rather than faithfully depending on some unseen gadget with who knows
what temp stability in it's set range. However manufacturers are
always looking to install cheap, fictional, do it all idiot proof
gimmicks as an excuse to milk more money out of customers. I am not
knocking the zojirushi for it's intended purpose at all, I am just
writing in general terms, however the zojirushi is definately not for
me.

Come to think of it I am going to buy a quality shut off at boil
kettle, plug a plug in timer switch into the outlet, drill a little
hole in the pot's lid and stick a cheap kitchen oven stem thermometer
with an improvised clip in it. There you go why do they have to make
me do all of this work.

Oh I de prefere metal to plastic, metal bends rather than cracks can
be bent back and still usable. I would only go with stainless.



  
Date: 15 Sep 2007 19:45:26
From: Ed Needham
Subject: Re: electric kettles
My Melitta works fine for brewing coffee. It brings it to a boil and shuts
off. By the time I hear it click off and get to the kitchen, the temp is
perfect for brewing coffee. I can stick a dial thermometer into the water
if I feel the need.
--
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"
http://www.homeroaster.com
*********************


"opother" <opother123@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:1189892793.642173.150710@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 14, 6:32 pm, "Ed Needham" <e...@NOSPAMhomeroaster.com> wrote:
>> "Randall Nortman" <usenet8...@wonderclown.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:13elalf8ih4vsb9@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> > I'm seeing lots of stainless models, but the Melitta looks plastic.
>> > Maybe they don't make your model anymore?
>>
>> Many of them say stainless but look like plastic on the outside. I
>> believe
>> they are stainless on the inside.
>>
>> You mentioned you want a controllable thermostat. You probably want the
>> Zojirushi if you don't mind spending $$$ to get
>> it.http://www.zojirushi.com/ourproducts/elepots/cd_lcc.html
>> --
>> *********************
>> Ed Needham
>> "to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com
>> *********************
> ***********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
>
>
> I checked the website and the zojirushi FAQ states the heating time
> is 30-40 minutes and that they are meant to maintain the water temp
> for long periods rather then heat up the water fast. That is way too
> long for me and I prefere fresh water rather than heated water that
> has been sitting around, especially with teas. I don't know if there
> are other zojirushi models that are different.
>
> Why complicate things any more than necessary. A regular electric
> fast heat kettle with an old fashioned analog thermometer installed,
> an adjustable timer, and auto shut-off (cheap quaility reliable click
> thermostat) at boiling point would be just perfect and maybe throw in
> a whistler for a couple of bucks extra. That would be my ideal
> electric tea kettle. It only takes about 1-3 minutes to cool down from
> boiling to get the proper temp for whatever tea (or for coffee even
> less) you are brewing and when you get familiar with the brewing times
> just set the timer for your preference or flick the switch off at the
> right moment. The heart of the unit would be the thermometer your eyes
> and the ability to read it and make the right adjustments FOR YOUR
> NEEDS (ie altitude, environment, personal tastes etc.)
>
> I like the ability to moniter and fully control my brew temperatures
> rather than faithfully depending on some unseen gadget with who knows
> what temp stability in it's set range. However manufacturers are
> always looking to install cheap, fictional, do it all idiot proof
> gimmicks as an excuse to milk more money out of customers. I am not
> knocking the zojirushi for it's intended purpose at all, I am just
> writing in general terms, however the zojirushi is definately not for
> me.
>
> Come to think of it I am going to buy a quality shut off at boil
> kettle, plug a plug in timer switch into the outlet, drill a little
> hole in the pot's lid and stick a cheap kitchen oven stem thermometer
> with an improvised clip in it. There you go why do they have to make
> me do all of this work.
>
> Oh I de prefere metal to plastic, metal bends rather than cracks can
> be bent back and still usable. I would only go with stainless.
>




 
Date: 14 Sep 2007 19:26:38
From: Felix
Subject: Re: electric kettles
Randall Nortman asks:
> PID'd electric kettle, anybody?

Maybe ... tea drinkers have something to offer:
http://uptontea.com/shopcart/item.asp?from=catalog.asp&itemID=AK16

Note that the adjustment isn't calibrated. It's something I don't need
that I might be able to rationalize buying :-)


Felix



 
Date: 14 Sep 2007 19:23:27
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: electric kettles
On Sep 14, 3:10 pm, shane <shane.ol...@juno.com > wrote:
> On Sep 14, 10:01 am, "Ed Needham" <e...@NOSPAMhomeroaster.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I use a Melitta. Google 'melitta electric stainless kettle' and you'll get
> > more $25 deals than you'll ever be able to view.
> > The electric cordless kettle and my Chemex make a great combination.
> > --
> > *********************
> > Ed Needham
> > "to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com
> > *********************
>
> > "shane" <shane.ol...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1189778090.629151.286010@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >I use at electric kettle to boil the water to make coffee at work.
> > > Currently the one I use is a plastic body with a heating element in
> > > the bottom. It works quite well for me to make coffee at my desk.
>
> > > Are non-plastic electric kettles still made? I have not been able to
> > > find any.
>
> > > Shane- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It seems that the just element in the majority of the Melitta is
> stainless and the rest is plastic.
> I currently have a plastic kettle with a stainless element.
> I do see that there are a few glass kettles!! The Capresso 259.04 H2O
> Plus Glass Water Kettle.
> The glass kettle would get the nod over stainless. I like glass
> things to make and drink coffee with. I think that glass is easier to
> clean.
>
> Shane

Me, too. I take the group drip brewer's pyrex urn, pre-measure a dab
of water in, stick it in the microwave (beats elements if there's one
around), toss and swish in my grinds after heated, to serve into a
brewer basket and filter balanced over the cup. Dishwater compared to
espresso, but still preferable do without milk, with hints of fruit to
scent freshly rewarded olfactories.

Enjoy - As a Foldgers' crowd subsequently note: 'Yea, he likes
coffee a spoon will stand up in.' - Flasherly



 
Date: 14 Sep 2007 12:10:35
From: shane
Subject: Re: electric kettles
On Sep 14, 10:01 am, "Ed Needham" <e...@NOSPAMhomeroaster.com > wrote:
> I use a Melitta. Google 'melitta electric stainless kettle' and you'll get
> more $25 deals than you'll ever be able to view.
> The electric cordless kettle and my Chemex make a great combination.
> --
> *********************
> Ed Needham
> "to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com
> *********************
>
> "shane" <shane.ol...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1189778090.629151.286010@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >I use at electric kettle to boil the water to make coffee at work.
> > Currently the one I use is a plastic body with a heating element in
> > the bottom. It works quite well for me to make coffee at my desk.
>
> > Are non-plastic electric kettles still made? I have not been able to
> > find any.
>
> > Shane- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It seems that the just element in the majority of the Melitta is
stainless and the rest is plastic.
I currently have a plastic kettle with a stainless element.
I do see that there are a few glass kettles!! The Capresso 259.04 H2O
Plus Glass Water Kettle.
The glass kettle would get the nod over stainless. I like glass
things to make and drink coffee with. I think that glass is easier to
clean.

Shane



  
Date: 17 Sep 2007 22:44:13
From: Rich Adams
Subject: Re: electric kettles
>> > Are non-plastic electric kettles still made? I have not been able to
>> > find any.

>
> It seems that the just element in the majority of the Melitta is
> stainless and the rest is plastic.
> I currently have a plastic kettle with a stainless element.
> I do see that there are a few glass kettles!! The Capresso 259.04 H2O
> Plus Glass Water Kettle.
> The glass kettle would get the nod over stainless. I like glass
> things to make and drink coffee with. I think that glass is easier to
> clean.
>
> Shane
>

The Capresso H2O I got died in the first week, I then got this:
http://www.amazon.com/Toastess-Cordless-Electric-Glass-Kettle/dp/B0002PYOIC

Been going strong for 1.5 years. Plus, IIRC, came with a two year warranty.

I too, disliked the plastic walled kettles and such.

Rich Adams




  
Date: 15 Sep 2007 12:00:51
From: Randall Nortman
Subject: Re: electric kettles
On 2007-09-14, shane <shane.olson@juno.com > wrote:
[...]
> I do see that there are a few glass kettles!! The Capresso 259.04 H2O
> Plus Glass Water Kettle.
> The glass kettle would get the nod over stainless. I like glass
> things to make and drink coffee with. I think that glass is easier to
> clean.

I saw that in a store the other day and was drawn to it. But there
was something that made me reject it, and I'm afraid I can't remember
what at the moment. I think it has plastic parts around the spout --
a lot of these kettles have scale filters at the spout, and many of
them involve plastic. If you are very paranoid about plastic, go
check it out at a local kitchen store. I saw it at Bed Bath & Beyond.

(Or it could have been something else that made me reject it --
minimum capacity was another thing I was looking at, for those single
mug jobs.)

--
Randall


 
Date: 14 Sep 2007 11:01:23
From: Ed Needham
Subject: Re: electric kettles
I use a Melitta. Google 'melitta electric stainless kettle' and you'll get
more $25 deals than you'll ever be able to view.
The electric cordless kettle and my Chemex make a great combination.
--
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"
http://www.homeroaster.com
*********************

"shane" <shane.olson@juno.com > wrote in message
news:1189778090.629151.286010@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>I use at electric kettle to boil the water to make coffee at work.
> Currently the one I use is a plastic body with a heating element in
> the bottom. It works quite well for me to make coffee at my desk.
>
> Are non-plastic electric kettles still made? I have not been able to
> find any.
>
> Shane
>




  
Date: 14 Sep 2007 15:37:19
From: Randall Nortman
Subject: Re: electric kettles
On 2007-09-14, Ed Needham <ed@NOSPAMhomeroaster.com > wrote:
> I use a Melitta. Google 'melitta electric stainless kettle' and you'll get
> more $25 deals than you'll ever be able to view.
> The electric cordless kettle and my Chemex make a great combination.

I'm seeing lots of stainless models, but the Melitta looks plastic.
Maybe they don't make your model anymore?

Anyway, I've also been thinking about getting one of these, but I'd
like one with an adjustable thermostat in addition to being all
stainless or glass. Cheap hot pots have adjustable thermostats, but
they are all made of plastic. Expensive Japanese hot water dispensers
usually have a limited range of three or so temperature settings, not
continuous adjustment.

PID'd electric kettle, anybody?

--
Randall


   
Date: 14 Sep 2007 18:32:51
From: Ed Needham
Subject: Re: electric kettles

"Randall Nortman" <usenet8189@wonderclown.com > wrote in message
news:13elalf8ih4vsb9@corp.supernews.com...
> I'm seeing lots of stainless models, but the Melitta looks plastic.
> Maybe they don't make your model anymore?



Many of them say stainless but look like plastic on the outside. I believe
they are stainless on the inside.

You mentioned you want a controllable thermostat. You probably want the
Zojirushi if you don't mind spending $$$ to get it.
http://www.zojirushi.com/ourproducts/elepots/cd_lcc.html
--
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"
http://www.homeroaster.com
*********************




   
Date: 14 Sep 2007 18:00:10
From: Ian Smith
Subject: Re: electric kettles
On Fri, 14 Sep, Randall Nortman <usenet8189@wonderclown.com > wrote:
>
> PID'd electric kettle, anybody?

I have a PID'd kettle lead - I use it to test second-hand SSRs. I'm
not convinced it's useful for anything else really.

regards, Ian SMith
--


 
Date: 14 Sep 2007 10:40:20
From: yetanotherBob
Subject: Re: electric kettles
In article <1189778090.629151.286010@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com >,
shane.olson@juno.com says...
> I use at electric kettle to boil the water to make coffee at work.
> Currently the one I use is a plastic body with a heating element in
> the bottom. It works quite well for me to make coffee at my desk.
>
> Are non-plastic electric kettles still made? I have not been able to
> find any.
>
> Shane
>
>
If you Google on stainless electric water kettle you should find several
brands/models.

Bob