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Date: 25 Jan 2007 15:53:24
From: Sportflyer
Subject: grinder cleaning with white rice
Can I use my current espresso setting or should I make it coarser ? I would
hate to stall the machine ! Tks






 
Date: 16 Feb 2007 15:14:47
From: fmfmfm
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
On Jan 28, 10:51 am, pltrgyst <use...@xhost.org > wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:54:38 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
>
> <r...@letterectomyTELUS.net> wrote:
> >Try chewing a handful of roasted coffee beans. Pretty easy. Now, try
> >chewing a handful of raw rice kernels. (Caution -- don't try this at
> >home, kiddies!) That's all I needed to convince me not to use raw rice
> >to clean my grinder. I use rolled oats.
>
> Maybe that's why the usual advice is par-boiled rice, e.g., Uncle
> Ben's?
>
> -- Larry

Last I checked raw or cooked rice are both softer than stainless
steel, by a considerable amount, so who cares, as long as you're
grinding something softer than the burrs hardness...? (Your teeth are
also softer than stainless steel, and more brittle)



 
Date: 01 Feb 2007 14:36:59
From: Alex_chef2000
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
I use RAW RICE ONLY for the BULK grinders, for the ESPRESSO grinders I
use rolled OATS and compressed air.

I have never used any rice for the espresso grinders, with rolled oats
the grinders works fine ( not noisy ) and you get all the coffee
oils.

A bulk grinder is heavy duty and it grinds raw rice quickly, I set it
in medium grind because in my experience it goes better than setting
the finer grinds. Sometimes I use to change the settings while is
grinding.

I clean all the grinders once a week, it takes practice to do it in a
short time, it is very easy.


I hope this helps,


Alex.:




 
Date: 28 Jan 2007 08:33:20
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
Nice grinder to be nice to. I clean mine by holding it in one and and
beating on it with the other while it's grinding. I found those
tablets I saw. They're farther down of the page below.

http://www.espressotec.com/caclean.asp

On Jan 27, 3:36 pm, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net > wrote:
> I am trying to clean a Quickmill grinder without having to disassemble it .
> I have it for only 6 weeks so I thought I should do some maintenance
> before it gets too grundgy .



 
Date: 28 Jan 2007 08:04:49
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
On Jan 27, 12:26 pm, "daveb" <davebobbl...@gmail.com > wrote:
> What empherical evidence
>
> empherical??

Empirical, that which doesn't pertain to directly observable
correlations within a set of likely or probable instances to determine
a repeatable outcome. Welcome to the theoretical realm of genius. A
construct in contrasts to determine why an ape-like dispostion appears
to level at some sedentary bias of orthodoxy, and why anomalistic
instancess arise. A postive when the gifted, talented, geniuses and
prodigies, are seen conducive as evolvement, as suitable or socially
relevant. A negative when that which is seen for conducive devolves
from a higher to lower standard, such as the Aryan construct of a Nazi
peoples. The point is simple, as long as the verdict is out, that
while there lacks all but theoretical implications to discretely
identify axioms of indubitable genius, I believe it is safe to say I
needn't have to proclaim to believe either this, or that, is
irrovocably a k of true genius. I simply do not believe in genius,
because genius can not be, in all manners, identified. I rather would
not be slight, to be circumventive or risk haste when judging
aptitudes.




  
Date: 07 Feb 2007 00:41:56
From: Espressopithecus (Java Man)
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
In article <1170000289.755355.30990@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >,
gjerrell@ij.net says...
> Welcome to the theoretical realm of genius.
>
It certainly appears to be a theoretical realm.

Rick


 
Date: 28 Jan 2007 07:20:37
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
On Jan 27, 10:17 am, Andy Schecter
<schec...@remove.me.rochester.rr.com > wrote:
> Flasherly wrote:
> > What empherical evidence lacks to say, in so far to say what can be
> > seen an attribute of genius, neither is what conclusively sense is
> > capable to contain, for a categorical precision of ascertainable maxims
> > to hold true by all instances.

>Sorry Roque, but if this is genius, I'm gonna make a decision to remain stupid.

Condensed restatement from what impressed me from a lengthy discourse
taken from the Encyclopaedia Britannica, a dated released I've mounted
on a virtual volume (packaged w/ an earlier version of Netscape but
can be made to interface with 4.08), as much pertaining to an aptitude
talent is capable to manifest. Hence, I'd respectfully submit
engendering stupidity will provide no less clear an undertaking.



  
Date: 28 Jan 2007 10:39:04
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
On 28 Jan 2007 07:20:37 -0800, "Flasherly" <gjerrell@ij.net > wrote:

>....as much pertaining to an aptitude
>talent is capable to manifest....

You do know that you're functionally illiterate, don't you?

-- Larry



 
Date: 27 Jan 2007 16:41:03
From: daveb
Subject: Re: HOW ABOUT A review OF THE qm grinder??
Thanks! an excellent and very helpful report.

DAve

www.hitechespresso.com

On Jan 27, 7:19 pm, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net > wrote:
> This is my first specialty grinder so I have no reference to any other
> types.
> Any here are my comments after 6 week usage:
>
> a) It is relatively heavy and well built. Contrary to a review in
> Homebarista.com. I did not find any sharp metal edges at all on my unit.
> b) Its very easy to find the zero point by turning on the unit ( no beans)
> and listening carefully to the burrs as you slowly turn the adjusting knob
> clockwise Stop and back off slightly as soon as you hear a slight cling
> clink sound. It is very obvious when you get there. I then placed a k on
> the dial .
> c) The dial king is very coarse whereas the burr adjustment is extremely
> fine.So I taped a plastic measuring tape over the dial for more visual
> resolution . One complete turn of the knob is now 1 k on the measuring
> tape. I also added a simple pointer . With this mod it is very easy
> visualise the fine tuning of grind settings .
> d) The grinder runs relatively quiet without any beans ( again I have no
> reference to any other grinder. ) With beans of course it is louder but no
> problem having conversations etc
> e) As for speed , it grinds enough coffee to fill a double shot PF in about
> 20 to 25 secs. At the end of the grind there is some coffee remaining in the
> discharge shute but easily dislodged with a flick of the metal shute cover .
> The grind consistency is very repeatable .
> f) If you grind directly to the PF , its ok till its about 2/3 full then
> the coffee grinds splashes everywhere . So I now grind into a small glass
> bowl before transfering to the PF . This way you can also eliminate any
> clumping of the coffee grinds as you tansfer to the PF.
> g) Obviously this grinder made especially for one type of grind ex espresso
> . It takes many turns of the adjustment knob to change the grind from
> espresso to drip so its not ideal if you change the type of grind very
> often.
> h) Overall I am very happy with the grinder . With such fine adjustment of
> the grind its too tempting to fiddle with it all the time !
>
> "daveb" <davebobbl...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1169930552.662726.60950@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > how much 'grunge' do you think is gonna be in there in 6 weeks? after
> > say, 6 lbs of coffee??
>
> > Why not tell us ABOUT the qm grinder? there are no reviews around --
> > Is it any good?
>
> > dave



 
Date: 27 Jan 2007 12:42:32
From: daveb
Subject: HOW ABOUT A review OF THE qm grinder??
how much 'grunge' do you think is gonna be in there in 6 weeks? after
say, 6 lbs of coffee??

Why not tell us ABOUT the qm grinder? there are no reviews around --
Is it any good?

dave



  
Date: 27 Jan 2007 16:19:41
From: Sportflyer
Subject: Re: HOW ABOUT A review OF THE qm grinder??
This is my first specialty grinder so I have no reference to any other
types.
Any here are my comments after 6 week usage:

a) It is relatively heavy and well built. Contrary to a review in
Homebarista.com. I did not find any sharp metal edges at all on my unit.
b) Its very easy to find the zero point by turning on the unit ( no beans)
and listening carefully to the burrs as you slowly turn the adjusting knob
clockwise Stop and back off slightly as soon as you hear a slight cling
clink sound. It is very obvious when you get there. I then placed a k on
the dial .
c) The dial king is very coarse whereas the burr adjustment is extremely
fine.So I taped a plastic measuring tape over the dial for more visual
resolution . One complete turn of the knob is now 1 k on the measuring
tape. I also added a simple pointer . With this mod it is very easy
visualise the fine tuning of grind settings .
d) The grinder runs relatively quiet without any beans ( again I have no
reference to any other grinder. ) With beans of course it is louder but no
problem having conversations etc
e) As for speed , it grinds enough coffee to fill a double shot PF in about
20 to 25 secs. At the end of the grind there is some coffee remaining in the
discharge shute but easily dislodged with a flick of the metal shute cover .
The grind consistency is very repeatable .
f) If you grind directly to the PF , its ok till its about 2/3 full then
the coffee grinds splashes everywhere . So I now grind into a small glass
bowl before transfering to the PF . This way you can also eliminate any
clumping of the coffee grinds as you tansfer to the PF.
g) Obviously this grinder made especially for one type of grind ex espresso
. It takes many turns of the adjustment knob to change the grind from
espresso to drip so its not ideal if you change the type of grind very
often.
h) Overall I am very happy with the grinder . With such fine adjustment of
the grind its too tempting to fiddle with it all the time !






"daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1169930552.662726.60950@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> how much 'grunge' do you think is gonna be in there in 6 weeks? after
> say, 6 lbs of coffee??
>
> Why not tell us ABOUT the qm grinder? there are no reviews around --
> Is it any good?
>
> dave
>




 
Date: 27 Jan 2007 06:13:33
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice

A lot of people do. Rice is a common cleaning agent. Doesn't mean
you're not running an expensive grinder with other cleaning
recommendations. You didn't mention that. Would surprise me if plain
rice caused any difference with mine, a grinder from Chicago, but for
a nickel dime more for parboiled/desiccated "soft" rice, may as well.
Besides, if Anthony says that's what flies for rice around here, he
probably means it. Same for Alex and a good mention of oatmeal. Come
to think of it - I recall seeing botique cleaning tablets, probably
the best treatment for the best grinder. Same goes for citric acid
and cleaning out better espresso machines - if spending money on
highend, treat the gear right, rather than letting it sit up overnight
with vinegar or lime concentrate, like I do. For a setting on the
grinder to clean it, I'd think the finest the machine is capable. The
closer the tolerances while grinding rice, the more surface contact
area. Either that or whatever setting you leave it set if grind
doesn't deviate.

Just in case you've plates instead of conical burrs, acetone and
brush, or a hand grinder with a 4" wirecup should do the trick.

On Jan 26, 5:49 pm, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net > wrote:
> I assume then I should use raw white rice and not the softer minute rice ?



  
Date: 27 Jan 2007 12:36:38
From: Sportflyer
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
I am trying to clean a Quickmill grinder without having to disassemble it .
I have it for only 6 weeks so I thought I should do some maintenance
before it gets too grundgy .

"Flasherly" <gjerrell@ij.net > wrote in message
news:1169907213.447918.97870@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
> A lot of people do. Rice is a common cleaning agent. Doesn't mean
> you're not running an expensive grinder with other cleaning
> recommendations. You didn't mention that. Would surprise me if plain
> rice caused any difference with mine, a grinder from Chicago, but for
> a nickel dime more for parboiled/desiccated "soft" rice, may as well.
> Besides, if Anthony says that's what flies for rice around here, he
> probably means it. Same for Alex and a good mention of oatmeal. Come
> to think of it - I recall seeing botique cleaning tablets, probably
> the best treatment for the best grinder. Same goes for citric acid
> and cleaning out better espresso machines - if spending money on
> highend, treat the gear right, rather than letting it sit up overnight
> with vinegar or lime concentrate, like I do. For a setting on the
> grinder to clean it, I'd think the finest the machine is capable. The
> closer the tolerances while grinding rice, the more surface contact
> area. Either that or whatever setting you leave it set if grind
> doesn't deviate.
>
> Just in case you've plates instead of conical burrs, acetone and
> brush, or a hand grinder with a 4" wirecup should do the trick.
>
> On Jan 26, 5:49 pm, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net> wrote:
>> I assume then I should use raw white rice and not the softer minute rice
>> ?
>




 
Date: 26 Jan 2007 19:42:32
From: anthony
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice


On Jan 27, 9:49 am, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net > wrote:
> I assume then I should use raw white rice and not the softer minute rice ?
>
Everything I've read on this group suggests that you should only use
the softer minute rice, NOT raw white rice.



 
Date: 26 Jan 2007 08:18:19
From: Alex_chef2000
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
Hi there, I use raw rice for the bulk grinders and rolled oats for the
espresso grinders. After that I use compressed air with a rubber
device that I invented to blow all the remains off.

Then I grind some coffee, discard it and the work is done.


Regards from Mexico,



Alex.:



 
Date: 26 Jan 2007 07:39:04
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice


On Jan 25, 11:08 pm, Roque Ja wrote:

>See. That's what I mean. The man is a genius.

I don't believe in genius. To proclaim the genius is to be an
alchemical heretic, a soothsayer, and risk being sumily burned on
some pedantic stake.

What empherical evidence lacks to say, in so far to say what can be
seen an attribute of genius, neither is what conclusively sense is
capable to contain, for a categorical precision of ascertainable maxims
to hold true by all instances.



  
Date: 27 Jan 2007 11:45:17
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
On 26 Jan 2007 07:39:04 -0800, "Flasherly" <gjerrell@ij.net > wrote:

>What empherical evidence lacks to say, in so far to say what can be
>seen an attribute of genius....

Flunked English 101, didn't you? No wonder you don't believe in
genius.

-- Larry



   
Date: 27 Jan 2007 12:26:48
From: daveb
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
What empherical evidence


empherical??

geez....


"pltrgyst" <usenet@xhost.org > wrote in message
news:kb0nr2pj7g2jt48gsedap9v80utdb5kchi@4ax.com...
> On 26 Jan 2007 07:39:04 -0800, "Flasherly" <gjerrell@ij.net> wrote:
>
>>What empherical evidence lacks to say, in so far to say what can be
>>seen an attribute of genius....
>
> Flunked English 101, didn't you? No wonder you don't believe in
> genius.
>
> -- Larry
>




  
Date: 27 Jan 2007 10:17:58
From: Andy Schecter
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
Flasherly wrote:
> What empherical evidence lacks to say, in so far to say what can be
> seen an attribute of genius, neither is what conclusively sense is
> capable to contain, for a categorical precision of ascertainable maxims
> to hold true by all instances.

Sorry Roque, but if this is genius, I'm gonna make a decision to remain stupid.

--


-Andy S.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_s/sets/


 
Date: 25 Jan 2007 20:04:21
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
As long as the material density of rice is lower than a coffee bean
(some of them are said to be suitable for the likes of cherry pits),
that there's no residual contained and left in the form of deposits
from rice the cleaning agent, there can't be an effect on the burrs so
far as their intended use. Bright white rice, presumably, to judge a
resulting ground color contained in a residual during cleaning process
as coffee stain. Once out of any brown and back into source white, the
cutting edges should also be clean metal.

On Jan 25, 10:47 pm, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net > wrote:
> Now I am confused , should use the instant rice or raw uncooked regular
> white rice.



  
Date: 28 Jan 2007 17:54:38
From: Espressopithecus (Java Man)
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
In article <1169784261.199945.260170@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com >,
gjerrell@ij.net says...
> As long as the material density of rice is lower than a coffee bean
> (some of them are said to be suitable for the likes of cherry pits),
> that there's no residual contained and left in the form of deposits
> from rice the cleaning agent, there can't be an effect on the burrs so
> far as their intended use.

Try chewing a handful of roasted coffee beans. Pretty easy. Now, try
chewing a handful of raw rice kernels. (Caution -- don't try this at
home, kiddies!) That's all I needed to convince me not to use raw rice
to clean my grinder. I use rolled oats.

Rick


   
Date: 01 Feb 2007 04:43:33
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:54:38 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
<rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net > wrote:

>Try chewing a handful of roasted coffee beans. Pretty easy. Now, try
>chewing a handful of raw rice kernels.

but either is softer than steel.

--barry "rock paper scissors?"


    
Date: 07 Feb 2007 00:44:37
From: Espressopithecus (Java Man)
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
In article <8ur2s29sprtj0dho13gjfdlacmpnlc88l9@4ax.com >, barry@rileys-
coffee.com says...
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:54:38 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
> <rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net> wrote:
>
> >Try chewing a handful of roasted coffee beans. Pretty easy. Now, try
> >chewing a handful of raw rice kernels.
>
> but either is softer than steel.
>
My veggies and cutting boards are all softer than my kitchen knives, but
I still have to sharpen them (the knives, that is).

Rick


    
Date: 01 Feb 2007 09:03:12
From: Sportflyer
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
I agree, raw rice is very definitely softer than steel and I think both can
be used .


"Barry Jarrett" <barry@rileys-coffee.com > wrote in message
news:8ur2s29sprtj0dho13gjfdlacmpnlc88l9@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:54:38 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
> <rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net> wrote:
>
> >Try chewing a handful of roasted coffee beans. Pretty easy. Now, try
> >chewing a handful of raw rice kernels.
>
> but either is softer than steel.
>
> --barry "rock paper scissors?"




     
Date: 03 Feb 2007 00:56:40
From: Paul Vojta
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
In article <4NSdndRovuBLgV_YnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com >,
Sportflyer <mode1flyerNOSPAM@netzero.net > wrote:
>I agree, raw rice is very definitely softer than steel and I think both can
>be used .

Burrs do get dull over time, despite the softness of coffee beans and the
hardness of the steel in the burrs. After all, rocks are also softer than
steel, yet you wouldn't want rocks in your rocky.

So raw rice will dull the burrs more quickly than instant.

--Paul Vojta, vojta@math.berkeley.edu


   
Date: 28 Jan 2007 13:51:27
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:54:38 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
<rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net > wrote:

>Try chewing a handful of roasted coffee beans. Pretty easy. Now, try
>chewing a handful of raw rice kernels. (Caution -- don't try this at
>home, kiddies!) That's all I needed to convince me not to use raw rice
>to clean my grinder. I use rolled oats.

Maybe that's why the usual advice is par-boiled rice, e.g., Uncle
Ben's?

-- Larry



    
Date: 29 Jan 2007 00:53:20
From: Espressopithecus (Java Man)
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
In article <04spr2df26hcebb35ujaac4dl0417q2ope@4ax.com >,
usenet@xhost.org says...
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:54:38 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
> <rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net> wrote:
>
> >Try chewing a handful of roasted coffee beans. Pretty easy. Now, try
> >chewing a handful of raw rice kernels. (Caution -- don't try this at
> >home, kiddies!) That's all I needed to convince me not to use raw rice
> >to clean my grinder. I use rolled oats.
>
> Maybe that's why the usual advice is par-boiled rice, e.g., Uncle
> Ben's?
>
I haven't tried chewing it. Minute rice cannot get past the inspection
service at our door. ;)

Rick


     
Date: 29 Jan 2007 08:41:32
From: Sportflyer
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
Maybe I can find generic type at the local superket .


"Espressopithecus (Java Man)" <rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net > wrote in message
news:MPG.2026e55873fcca64989885@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> In article <04spr2df26hcebb35ujaac4dl0417q2ope@4ax.com>,
> usenet@xhost.org says...
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:54:38 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
>> <rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Try chewing a handful of roasted coffee beans. Pretty easy. Now, try
>> >chewing a handful of raw rice kernels. (Caution -- don't try this at
>> >home, kiddies!) That's all I needed to convince me not to use raw rice
>> >to clean my grinder. I use rolled oats.
>>
>> Maybe that's why the usual advice is par-boiled rice, e.g., Uncle
>> Ben's?
>>
> I haven't tried chewing it. Minute rice cannot get past the inspection
> service at our door. ;)
>
> Rick




     
Date: 28 Jan 2007 23:29:47
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:53:20 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
<rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net > wrote:

>In article <04spr2df26hcebb35ujaac4dl0417q2ope@4ax.com>,
>usenet@xhost.org says...
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:54:38 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
>> <rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Try chewing a handful of roasted coffee beans. Pretty easy. Now, try
>> >chewing a handful of raw rice kernels. (Caution -- don't try this at
>> >home, kiddies!) That's all I needed to convince me not to use raw rice
>> >to clean my grinder. I use rolled oats.
>>
>> Maybe that's why the usual advice is par-boiled rice, e.g., Uncle
>> Ben's?
>>
>I haven't tried chewing it. Minute rice cannot get past the inspection
>service at our door. ;)

Mine either, for use as a foodstuff. But as a mill cleaning agent, I'm
willing to try just about anything.

-- Larry



  
Date: 26 Jan 2007 14:49:41
From: Sportflyer
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
I assume then I should use raw white rice and not the softer minute rice ?

"Flasherly" <gjerrell@ij.net > wrote in message
news:1169784261.199945.260170@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> As long as the material density of rice is lower than a coffee bean
> (some of them are said to be suitable for the likes of cherry pits),
> that there's no residual contained and left in the form of deposits
> from rice the cleaning agent, there can't be an effect on the burrs so
> far as their intended use. Bright white rice, presumably, to judge a
> resulting ground color contained in a residual during cleaning process
> as coffee stain. Once out of any brown and back into source white, the
> cutting edges should also be clean metal.
>
> On Jan 25, 10:47 pm, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net> wrote:
>> Now I am confused , should use the instant rice or raw uncooked regular
>> white rice.
>




  
Date: 25 Jan 2007 20:08:47
From:
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
On 25 Jan 2007 20:04:21 -0800, "Flasherly" <gjerrell@ij.net > wrote:

>As long as the material density of rice is lower than a coffee bean
>(some of them are said to be suitable for the likes of cherry pits),
>that there's no residual contained and left in the form of deposits
>from rice the cleaning agent, there can't be an effect on the burrs so
>far as their intended use. Bright white rice, presumably, to judge a
>resulting ground color contained in a residual during cleaning process
>as coffee stain. Once out of any brown and back into source white, the
>cutting edges should also be clean metal.
>

See. That's what I mean. The man is a genius.







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Date: 25 Jan 2007 19:02:08
From: anthony
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice


On Jan 26, 12:28 pm, "MOJO" <magnumpiino...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Huh?
> On Jan 25, 7:58 pm, "Flasherly" <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:
>
> > Unless it's rock and/or metal look-alike rice.
>
> > On Jan 25, 6:53 pm, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net> wrote:
>
> > > Can I use my current espresso setting or should I make it coarser ? I would
> > > hate to stall the machine ! Tks- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

I'd think you should use current setting ... you'll be able to tell
within a moment or two if it's too fine. Just make sure you're using
that precooked instant 'soft' rice.



  
Date: 25 Jan 2007 19:47:41
From: Sportflyer
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
Now I am confused , should use the instant rice or raw uncooked regular
white rice.



"anthony" <anthonyjhcnospam@netscape.net > wrote in message
news:1169780528.293489.105460@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> On Jan 26, 12:28 pm, "MOJO" <magnumpiino...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Huh?
>> On Jan 25, 7:58 pm, "Flasherly" <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Unless it's rock and/or metal look-alike rice.
>>
>> > On Jan 25, 6:53 pm, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > Can I use my current espresso setting or should I make it coarser ? I
>> > > would
>> > > hate to stall the machine ! Tks- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted
>> > > text -
>
> I'd think you should use current setting ... you'll be able to tell
> within a moment or two if it's too fine. Just make sure you're using
> that precooked instant 'soft' rice.
>




 
Date: 25 Jan 2007 17:28:03
From: MOJO
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice

Huh?
On Jan 25, 7:58 pm, "Flasherly" <gjerr...@ij.net > wrote:
> Unless it's rock and/or metal look-alike rice.
>
> On Jan 25, 6:53 pm, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Can I use my current espresso setting or should I make it coarser ? I would
> > hate to stall the machine ! Tks- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



 
Date: 25 Jan 2007 16:58:15
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice
Unless it's rock and/or metal look-alike rice.

On Jan 25, 6:53 pm, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net > wrote:
> Can I use my current espresso setting or should I make it coarser ? I would
> hate to stall the machine ! Tks



  
Date: 28 Jan 2007 18:41:44
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: grinder cleaning with white rice


On Jan 28, 10:39 am, pltrgyst <use...@xhost.org > wrote:
>
> >....as much pertaining to an aptitude
> >talent is capable to manifest....You do know that you're functionally illiterate, don't you?

Lexicographically that is to sense a matter aptly discerned, than were
allowance given leeway for wider accordance. You realize, functional
literacy cannot always embody a 10th-grade aptitude for reading the
newspaper.