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Date: 27 Mar 2007 09:33:48
From: akiley
Subject: heavy duty timer for Espresso machine?? mine burned out
Hi all, I have an Adreja by Quick Mill espresso machine. I've bought
a few digital programmable timers from Lowe's, Home Depot or
equivalent. They work for a while, then just stop working. Does
anyone know of a really heavy duty timer that's worked on the bigger
espresso machines? The ones I bought were in the 18 buck range.
Can't seem to find anything on the web.

These are the models I tried

Westek L03-0139-A 1875 Watt resistive 5 A 600W Tungsten

Intermatic model HB88RC, for outdoor lighting with big heavy cord said
1000 Watt tungsten. Problem with this timer besides sort of working
intermittently is that when you switch it back to auto for the next
cycle, it waits out the current cycle before turning off. The Westek
is better in that regard, after you use the machine, you can cycle the
timer to OFF, then back to AUTO and it won't turn on until the next
auto time block comes up.


... akiley





 
Date: 28 Mar 2007 08:17:12
From: akiley
Subject: Re: heavy duty timer for Espresso machine?? mine burned out
On 28, 1:22 am, "I- >Ian" <some...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 27 2007 09:33:48 -0700, "akiley" <kiley.aa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Hi all, I have an Adreja by Quick Mill espresso machine. I've bought
> >a few digital programmable timers from Lowe's, Home Depot or
> >equivalent. They work for a while, then just stop working. Does
> >anyone know of a really heavy duty timer that's worked on the bigger
> >espresso machines? The ones I bought were in the 18 buck range.
> >Can't seem to find anything on the web.
>
> >These are the models I tried
>
> >Westek L03-0139-A 1875 Watt resistive 5 A 600W Tungsten
>
> >Intermatic model HB88RC, for outdoor lighting with big heavy cord said
> >1000 Watt tungsten. Problem with this timer besides sort of working
> >intermittently is that when you switch it back to auto for the next
> >cycle, it waits out the current cycle before turning off. The Westek
> >is better in that regard, after you use the machine, you can cycle the
> >timer to OFF, then back to AUTO and it won't turn on until the next
> >auto time block comes up.
>
> >... akiley
>
> Are the digitals dying or just failing to power the Andreja?
> If they are dying, check the wall socket. It's possible the socket
> wiring is ginal. Any socket used for a heavy load should be checked
> and preferably connected with screw, not push in, terminals.
>
> If the wall socket is overly warm, replace it.
>
> If the socket wiring is not a home run to the panel, check all
> intermediate connections. Replace any sockets with push in terminals
> in the daisy chain with screw terminals.
>
> FWIW, I use a $8 15A digital for the Vibiemme and it works well, but
> then I have PID that takes a few seconds before the zero crossing SSR
> is powered. By the time the heater power is on, the relay is firmly
> closed and the contact is not subjected to a series of huge arcs.

Thanks for the tips. The two programmable timers worked for a while.
The first one (Westec) worked for a month, then seemed almost like it
had a bad connection. If I twisted the connection to the AC it would
turn the machine back on. I thought it might be the surge suppressor
(got from Chris Coffee placed between wall and timer) and tried it
without, but no joy. The timer didn't seem to have any problems other
than just not powering the Andreja from time to time. The second
timer had similar/strange behavior, basically wouldn't turn the
machine on occasionally. I'm not tripping breakers in the cellar.
All grounded heavy duty stuff. In between I bought a second Westec
(same model) thinking the first was just broken. But the replacement
acted the same. ... akiley



 
Date: 28 Mar 2007 06:52:51
From: shane
Subject: Re: heavy duty timer for Espresso machine?? mine burned out
Get a mechanical timer. Look for the outdoor rated one with the
grounding plug. People, up here in the snowbelt, use them to plug in
engine block heaters.
Should be beefy enough for an espresso machine.

Shane

On 28, 12:22 am, "I- >Ian" <some...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 27 2007 09:33:48 -0700, "akiley" <kiley.aa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Hi all, I have an Adreja by Quick Mill espresso machine. I've bought
> >a few digital programmable timers from Lowe's, Home Depot or
> >equivalent. They work for a while, then just stop working. Does
> >anyone know of a really heavy duty timer that's worked on the bigger
> >espresso machines? The ones I bought were in the 18 buck range.
> >Can't seem to find anything on the web.
>
> >These are the models I tried
>
> >Westek L03-0139-A 1875 Watt resistive 5 A 600W Tungsten
>
> >Intermatic model HB88RC, for outdoor lighting with big heavy cord said
> >1000 Watt tungsten. Problem with this timer besides sort of working
> >intermittently is that when you switch it back to auto for the next
> >cycle, it waits out the current cycle before turning off. The Westek
> >is better in that regard, after you use the machine, you can cycle the
> >timer to OFF, then back to AUTO and it won't turn on until the next
> >auto time block comes up.
>
> >... akiley
>
> Are the digitals dying or just failing to power the Andreja?
> If they are dying, check the wall socket. It's possible the socket
> wiring is ginal. Any socket used for a heavy load should be checked
> and preferably connected with screw, not push in, terminals.
>
> If the wall socket is overly warm, replace it.
>
> If the socket wiring is not a home run to the panel, check all
> intermediate connections. Replace any sockets with push in terminals
> in the daisy chain with screw terminals.
>
> FWIW, I use a $8 15A digital for the Vibiemme and it works well, but
> then I have PID that takes a few seconds before the zero crossing SSR
> is powered. By the time the heater power is on, the relay is firmly
> closed and the contact is not subjected to a series of huge arcs.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -




 
Date: 27 Mar 2007 22:22:06
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: heavy duty timer for Espresso machine?? mine burned out
On 27 2007 09:33:48 -0700, "akiley" <kiley.aaron@gmail.com > wrote:

>Hi all, I have an Adreja by Quick Mill espresso machine. I've bought
>a few digital programmable timers from Lowe's, Home Depot or
>equivalent. They work for a while, then just stop working. Does
>anyone know of a really heavy duty timer that's worked on the bigger
>espresso machines? The ones I bought were in the 18 buck range.
>Can't seem to find anything on the web.
>
>These are the models I tried
>
>Westek L03-0139-A 1875 Watt resistive 5 A 600W Tungsten
>
>Intermatic model HB88RC, for outdoor lighting with big heavy cord said
>1000 Watt tungsten. Problem with this timer besides sort of working
>intermittently is that when you switch it back to auto for the next
>cycle, it waits out the current cycle before turning off. The Westek
>is better in that regard, after you use the machine, you can cycle the
>timer to OFF, then back to AUTO and it won't turn on until the next
>auto time block comes up.
>
>
>... akiley

Are the digitals dying or just failing to power the Andreja?
If they are dying, check the wall socket. It's possible the socket
wiring is ginal. Any socket used for a heavy load should be checked
and preferably connected with screw, not push in, terminals.

If the wall socket is overly warm, replace it.

If the socket wiring is not a home run to the panel, check all
intermediate connections. Replace any sockets with push in terminals
in the daisy chain with screw terminals.

FWIW, I use a $8 15A digital for the Vibiemme and it works well, but
then I have PID that takes a few seconds before the zero crossing SSR
is powered. By the time the heater power is on, the relay is firmly
closed and the contact is not subjected to a series of huge arcs.


 
Date: 27 Mar 2007 15:28:59
From: daveb
Subject: timer for Espresso machine
FORGET the digital -- get the $8.50 mechanical at lowes.

simple is better.

dave

"akiley" <kiley.aaron@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1175013228.720893.91290@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all, I have an Adreja by Quick Mill espresso machine. I've bought
> a few digital programmable timers from Lowe's, Home Depot or
> equivalent. They work for a while, then just stop working. Does
> anyone know of a really heavy duty timer that's worked on the bigger
> espresso machines? The ones I bought were in the 18 buck range.
> Can't seem to find anything on the web.
>
> These are the models I tried
>
> Westek L03-0139-A 1875 Watt resistive 5 A 600W Tungsten
>
> Intermatic model HB88RC, for outdoor lighting with big heavy cord said
> 1000 Watt tungsten. Problem with this timer besides sort of working
> intermittently is that when you switch it back to auto for the next
> cycle, it waits out the current cycle before turning off. The Westek
> is better in that regard, after you use the machine, you can cycle the
> timer to OFF, then back to AUTO and it won't turn on until the next
> auto time block comes up.
>
>
> ... akiley
>




 
Date: 27 Mar 2007 10:08:07
From: akiley
Subject: Re: heavy duty timer for Espresso machine?? mine burned out
On 27, 12:47 pm, shall <mrf...@ihatespamearthlink.net > wrote:
> On 27 2007 09:33:48 -0700, "akiley" <kiley.aa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi all, I have an Adreja by Quick Mill espresso machine. I've bought
> >a few digital programmable timers from Lowe's, Home Depot or
> >equivalent. They work for a while, then just stop working. Does
> >anyone know of a really heavy duty timer that's worked on the bigger
> >espresso machines? The ones I bought were in the 18 buck range.
> >Can't seem to find anything on the web.
>
> Have you considered a simple mechanical timer? They are very reliable
> and cheap. You can set multiple on-off points by inserting little
> plastic cams. I can't think of a situation where higher accuracy than
> 5-10 minutes would be necessary for a home espresso machine.
>
> shall

Geez, I didn't think to go low tech! Are those little guys heavy
duty enough? Maybe having a mechanical switch helps out. ... akiley



  
Date: 27 Mar 2007 17:33:50
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: heavy duty timer for Espresso machine?? mine burned out
On 27 2007 10:08:07 -0700, "akiley" <kiley.aaron@gmail.com > wrote:

>On 27, 12:47 pm, shall <mrf...@ihatespamearthlink.net> wrote:
>> On 27 2007 09:33:48 -0700, "akiley" <kiley.aa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi all, I have an Adreja by Quick Mill espresso machine. I've bought
>> >a few digital programmable timers from Lowe's, Home Depot or
>> >equivalent. They work for a while, then just stop working. Does
>> >anyone know of a really heavy duty timer that's worked on the bigger
>> >espresso machines? The ones I bought were in the 18 buck range.
>> >Can't seem to find anything on the web.
>>
>> Have you considered a simple mechanical timer? They are very reliable
>> and cheap. You can set multiple on-off points by inserting little
>> plastic cams. I can't think of a situation where higher accuracy than
>> 5-10 minutes would be necessary for a home espresso machine.
>>
>> shall
>
> Geez, I didn't think to go low tech! Are those little guys heavy
>duty enough? Maybe having a mechanical switch helps out. ... akiley

I've used this Intermatic for years on my Isomac. Has an on-off
switch, too.
http://www.intermatic.com/Default.asp?action=prod&pid=201&did=3&cid=43&sid=113

shall


 
Date: 27 Mar 2007 16:47:55
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: heavy duty timer for Espresso machine?? mine burned out
On 27 2007 09:33:48 -0700, "akiley" <kiley.aaron@gmail.com > wrote:

>Hi all, I have an Adreja by Quick Mill espresso machine. I've bought
>a few digital programmable timers from Lowe's, Home Depot or
>equivalent. They work for a while, then just stop working. Does
>anyone know of a really heavy duty timer that's worked on the bigger
>espresso machines? The ones I bought were in the 18 buck range.
>Can't seem to find anything on the web.

Have you considered a simple mechanical timer? They are very reliable
and cheap. You can set multiple on-off points by inserting little
plastic cams. I can't think of a situation where higher accuracy than
5-10 minutes would be necessary for a home espresso machine.

shall