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Date: 23 Jan 2007 04:57:03
From: TJ
Subject: la marzocco portafilter
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Just got my La zocco 15 degree portafilter in the mail for the Silvia. It didn't occur to me to let them (espressoparts nw) know it's for that application so now the tabs are too big! Out of pure impatients, should I attempt to cut the tabs to size or send it back to get the proper fit? Anyone else go through this? -tj
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Date: 25 Jan 2007 09:21:16
From: TJ
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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Well, they used a band saw to cut the tabs shorter, then used a ... BELT SANDER to reduce the thickness of the tabs and overall diameter of the portafilter. -tj On Jan 25, 12:09 pm, "daveb" <davebobbl...@gmail.com > wrote: > EXcellent!! > > must have used a grinder!! heheh! > > dave
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Date: 25 Jan 2007 12:33:33
From: JimG
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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On 25 Jan 2007 09:21:16 -0800, "TJ" <invictica@gmail.com > wrote: >Well, they used a band saw to cut the tabs shorter, then used a ... >BELT SANDER to reduce the thickness of the tabs and overall diameter of >the portafilter. > They did this for $6? You got a deal. Jim -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 25 Jan 2007 12:43:21
From: daveb
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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I've found those guys to be generally very helpful, over the years. maybe out of pity?? :) dave "JimG" <jggall01@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:vdqhr2h354ja8eca58ae4sf01smu63n2un@4ax.com... > On 25 Jan 2007 09:21:16 -0800, "TJ" <invictica@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Well, they used a band saw to cut the tabs shorter, then used a ... >>BELT SANDER to reduce the thickness of the tabs and overall diameter of >>the portafilter. >> > They did this for $6? You got a deal. > > Jim > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >
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Date: 25 Jan 2007 11:40:03
From: notbob
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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On 2007-01-25, JimG <jggall01@yahoo.com > wrote: > They did this for $6? You got a deal. No kidding. Most places I know would start at $20 just to acknowledge your existence. nb
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Date: 25 Jan 2007 09:01:39
From: TJ
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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Well after all of this, I took the La zocco portafilter along with the stock portafilter to my local metal shop and $6 later I have a nicely fitting mod on the silvia and no injuries or janky $60 portafilters. :) <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/imageframe/369055982/" title="Photo Sharing" ><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/118/369055982_6e55d28101.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="la zocco portafilter." / ></a>
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Date: 25 Jan 2007 12:09:50
From: daveb
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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EXcellent!! must have used a grinder!! heheh! dave "TJ" <invictica@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1169744499.588578.232850@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Well after all of this, I took the La zocco portafilter along with > the stock portafilter to my local metal shop and $6 later I have a > nicely fitting mod on the silvia and no injuries or janky $60 > portafilters. :) <a > href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/imageframe/369055982/" title="Photo > Sharing"><img > src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/118/369055982_6e55d28101.jpg" > width="500" height="333" alt="la zocco portafilter." /></a> >
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Date: 23 Jan 2007 21:03:01
From:
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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On Jan 23, 1:56 pm, notbob <not...@nothome.com > wrote: > On 2007-01-23, RoughJaw <r...@gmail.invalid> wrote: > > > Enlighten us. Exactly what type of grinder would be the "correct" one?No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander or > a file, the file being preferable. > > nb Link to my mod of the LM 15 degree pf. http://homepage.mac.com/sshire/PhotoAlbum3.html I used a file to remove the chrome on the outside of the ears, then a Dremel tool (I believe this qualifies as a grinder) to reduce the width. Perfect fit. Stan "I can make anything fit a Silvia" S
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Date: 24 Jan 2007 10:16:01
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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I believe the others were referring to a bench grinder with abrasive wheels. These are not supposed to be used on soft metals - they overload the wheel which can then shatter. The correct power tool for brass is a "rotary file" which looks like a cross between a regular file and a drill bit. I dunno what Dremel says about using their mini-abrasive wheels on brass - I suspect that it's ok. <stan.shire@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1169614981.357614.44470@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > > > On Jan 23, 1:56 pm, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote: >> On 2007-01-23, RoughJaw <r...@gmail.invalid> wrote: >> >> > Enlighten us. Exactly what type of grinder would be the "correct" >> > one?No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander >> > or >> a file, the file being preferable. >> >> nb > > Link to my mod of the LM 15 degree pf. > http://homepage.mac.com/sshire/PhotoAlbum3.html > I used a file to remove the chrome on the outside of the ears, then a > Dremel tool (I believe this qualifies as a grinder) to reduce the > width. Perfect fit. > Stan "I can make anything fit a Silvia" S >
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Date: 23 Jan 2007 17:31:49
From: RoughJaw
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:55:14 -0800, daveb wrote: > Are you skilled and practiced with the correct type of grinder? Enlighten us. Exactly what type of grinder would be the "correct" one? > if not . . . Exactly. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 23 Jan 2007 12:56:36
From: notbob
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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On 2007-01-23, RoughJaw <rj@gmail.invalid > wrote: > Enlighten us. Exactly what type of grinder would be the "correct" one? No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander or a file, the file being preferable. nb
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Date: 23 Jan 2007 22:17:13
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote: >On 2007-01-23, RoughJaw <rj@gmail.invalid> wrote: > >> Enlighten us. Exactly what type of grinder would be the "correct" one? > >No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander or >a file, the file being preferable. > An abrasive grinding wheel is not only not good for materials like brass- it can actually be dangerous... deadly even. Depending on what part needs to be sized, a belt sander or file is definitely the better choice... But for that much $$, I would want the right one that fits properly.... Randy "filit" G. http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 24 Jan 2007 09:46:20
From: notbob
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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On 2007-01-24, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote: > notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote: >>No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander or >>a file, the file being preferable. > An abrasive grinding wheel is not only not good for materials like > brass- > Depending on what part needs to be sized, a belt sander or file is > definitely the better choice... What? ...alt.coffee now comes with "echo"? nb
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Date: 24 Jan 2007 15:03:09
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote: >On 2007-01-24, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote: >> notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote: > >>>No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander or >>>a file, the file being preferable. > >> An abrasive grinding wheel is not only not good for materials like >> brass- > >> Depending on what part needs to be sized, a belt sander or file is >> definitely the better choice... > >What? ...alt.coffee now comes with "echo"? > Well.. I suppose you could be pissy and call it "echo" or positive and call it "agreement"... Randy "POV" G. http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 24 Jan 2007 18:04:01
From: notbob
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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On 2007-01-24, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote: > Well.. I suppose you could be pissy and call it "echo" or positive and > call it "agreement"... ...or cut to the chase and call it ego. nb
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Date: 24 Jan 2007 22:16:03
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote: >On 2007-01-24, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote: > >> Well.. I suppose you could be pissy and call it "echo" or positive and >> call it "agreement"... > >...or cut to the chase and call it ego. > As a firefighter I went on a call for a victim who had a small grinding wheel blow apart and come very close to ending any useful function of one hand, damaging a good part of the wrist. I remember seeing bits of what was left of his metal, flexi watch band imbedded deeply in and amongst the torn tissue and bone. That was why I added the bit concerning the _safety issue_ of using a grinder to work brass which I had not seen mentioned in the thread previously. As far as any agreement with you, I am indeed sorry for that at this point. Randy "just trying to care, but some folks make it tough" G. http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
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Date: 25 Jan 2007 02:52:32
From: notbob
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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On 2007-01-25, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote: > As a firefighter I went on a call for a victim who had a small > grinding wheel blow apart and.... [snip life history and drama queen schtick] What? ...grinding wheels are totally useless for brass is not enough? > As far as any agreement with you, I am indeed sorry for that at this > point. Aren't we all. > Randy "just trying to care........ We remain gratefully ...nay... unforgetfully ...no wait.... unendingly, painfully forever, in your debt. Thank you. nb ...only a prick to the overinflated
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Date: 25 Jan 2007 00:10:02
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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OR, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. -- Robert (A.C. SLACKERS CAN ARGUE THE BALLS OFF A BRASS BILLY GOAT!) Harmon http://tinyurl.com/pou2y http://tinyurl.com/psfob http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r "notbob" <notbob@nothome.com > wrote in message news:MrqdnWmp3_hsbirYnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@comcast.com... > On 2007-01-24, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote: > >> Well.. I suppose you could be pissy and call it "echo" or positive and >> call it "agreement"... > > ...or cut to the chase and call it ego. > > nb
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Date: 23 Jan 2007 11:27:03
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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Brass is pretty easy to file so you can probably get it to work assuming you can do rudimentary metal work. Just compare the dimensions of your old PF to the new and work carefully so you don't remove too much. OTOH, you'll remove the chrome from the ears in the process and it will probably look somewhat butchered, but still functional. It's up to you as to whether you value time over appearance and shipping costs. "TJ" <invictica@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1169557023.261346.188380@d71g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Just got my La zocco 15 degree portafilter in the mail for the > Silvia. It didn't occur to me to let them (espressoparts nw) know it's > for that application so now the tabs are too big! Out of pure > impatients, should I attempt to cut the tabs to size or send it back to > get the proper fit? Anyone else go through this? > > > > -tj >
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Date: 23 Jan 2007 17:08:40
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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It's even OK to remove too much, just go at it until the PF will fit into the group. The PF rotates into locking position using the tapered part of the tabs & locks using the bottom edge, so if you accidentally remove too much material from the trailing edge it will have no impact on performance or safety. So, as Jack said, if the appearance of a hacked PF is OK with you, get the files out & go for it. -- Robert (If a little's good, more's better!) Harmon http://tinyurl.com/pou2y http://tinyurl.com/psfob http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r "Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote in message news:7dadnUKSw8PKqivYnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@comcast.com... > Brass is pretty easy to file so you can probably get it to work assuming > you can do rudimentary metal work. Just compare the dimensions of your old > PF to the new and work carefully so you don't remove too much. OTOH, > you'll remove the chrome from the ears in the process and it will probably > look somewhat butchered, but still functional. It's up to you as to > whether you value time over appearance and shipping costs. > > > > > > > "TJ" <invictica@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1169557023.261346.188380@d71g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> Just got my La zocco 15 degree portafilter in the mail for the >> Silvia. It didn't occur to me to let them (espressoparts nw) know it's >> for that application so now the tabs are too big! Out of pure >> impatients, should I attempt to cut the tabs to size or send it back to >> get the proper fit? Anyone else go through this? >> >> >> >> -tj >> > >
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Date: 23 Jan 2007 05:55:14
From: daveb
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
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Are you skilled and practiced with the correct type of grinder? if not . . . dave www.hitechespresso.com
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