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Date: 23 Jan 2007 04:57:03
From: TJ
Subject: la marzocco portafilter
Just got my La zocco 15 degree portafilter in the mail for the
Silvia. It didn't occur to me to let them (espressoparts nw) know it's
for that application so now the tabs are too big! Out of pure
impatients, should I attempt to cut the tabs to size or send it back to
get the proper fit? Anyone else go through this?



-tj





 
Date: 25 Jan 2007 09:21:16
From: TJ
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
Well, they used a band saw to cut the tabs shorter, then used a ...
BELT SANDER to reduce the thickness of the tabs and overall diameter of
the portafilter.

-tj

On Jan 25, 12:09 pm, "daveb" <davebobbl...@gmail.com > wrote:
> EXcellent!!
>
> must have used a grinder!! heheh!
>
> dave



  
Date: 25 Jan 2007 12:33:33
From: JimG
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
On 25 Jan 2007 09:21:16 -0800, "TJ" <invictica@gmail.com > wrote:

>Well, they used a band saw to cut the tabs shorter, then used a ...
>BELT SANDER to reduce the thickness of the tabs and overall diameter of
>the portafilter.
>
They did this for $6? You got a deal.

Jim

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Date: 25 Jan 2007 12:43:21
From: daveb
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
I've found those guys to be generally very helpful, over the years.

maybe out of pity??

:)

dave

"JimG" <jggall01@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> On 25 Jan 2007 09:21:16 -0800, "TJ" <invictica@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Well, they used a band saw to cut the tabs shorter, then used a ...
>>BELT SANDER to reduce the thickness of the tabs and overall diameter of
>>the portafilter.
>>
> They did this for $6? You got a deal.
>
> Jim
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>




   
Date: 25 Jan 2007 11:40:03
From: notbob
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
On 2007-01-25, JimG <jggall01@yahoo.com > wrote:

> They did this for $6? You got a deal.

No kidding. Most places I know would start at $20 just to acknowledge
your existence.

nb


 
Date: 25 Jan 2007 09:01:39
From: TJ
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
Well after all of this, I took the La zocco portafilter along with
the stock portafilter to my local metal shop and $6 later I have a
nicely fitting mod on the silvia and no injuries or janky $60
portafilters. :) <a
href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/imageframe/369055982/" title="Photo
Sharing" ><img
src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/118/369055982_6e55d28101.jpg"
width="500" height="333" alt="la zocco portafilter." / ></a>



  
Date: 25 Jan 2007 12:09:50
From: daveb
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
EXcellent!!

must have used a grinder!! heheh!

dave


"TJ" <invictica@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1169744499.588578.232850@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Well after all of this, I took the La zocco portafilter along with
> the stock portafilter to my local metal shop and $6 later I have a
> nicely fitting mod on the silvia and no injuries or janky $60
> portafilters. :) <a
> href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/imageframe/369055982/" title="Photo
> Sharing"><img
> src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/118/369055982_6e55d28101.jpg"
> width="500" height="333" alt="la zocco portafilter." /></a>
>




 
Date: 23 Jan 2007 21:03:01
From:
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter


On Jan 23, 1:56 pm, notbob <not...@nothome.com > wrote:
> On 2007-01-23, RoughJaw <r...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Enlighten us. Exactly what type of grinder would be the "correct" one?No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander or
> a file, the file being preferable.
>
> nb

Link to my mod of the LM 15 degree pf.
http://homepage.mac.com/sshire/PhotoAlbum3.html
I used a file to remove the chrome on the outside of the ears, then a
Dremel tool (I believe this qualifies as a grinder) to reduce the
width. Perfect fit.
Stan "I can make anything fit a Silvia" S



  
Date: 24 Jan 2007 10:16:01
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
I believe the others were referring to a bench grinder with abrasive wheels.
These are not supposed to be used on soft metals - they overload the wheel
which can then shatter. The correct power tool for brass is a "rotary file"
which looks like a cross between a regular file and a drill bit. I dunno
what Dremel says about using their mini-abrasive wheels on brass - I suspect
that it's ok.


<stan.shire@gmail.com > wrote in message
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>
>
> On Jan 23, 1:56 pm, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
>> On 2007-01-23, RoughJaw <r...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > Enlighten us. Exactly what type of grinder would be the "correct"
>> > one?No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander
>> > or
>> a file, the file being preferable.
>>
>> nb
>
> Link to my mod of the LM 15 degree pf.
> http://homepage.mac.com/sshire/PhotoAlbum3.html
> I used a file to remove the chrome on the outside of the ears, then a
> Dremel tool (I believe this qualifies as a grinder) to reduce the
> width. Perfect fit.
> Stan "I can make anything fit a Silvia" S
>




 
Date: 23 Jan 2007 17:31:49
From: RoughJaw
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:55:14 -0800, daveb wrote:

> Are you skilled and practiced with the correct type of grinder?

Enlighten us. Exactly what type of grinder would be the "correct" one?

> if not . . .

Exactly.

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Date: 23 Jan 2007 12:56:36
From: notbob
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
On 2007-01-23, RoughJaw <rj@gmail.invalid > wrote:

> Enlighten us. Exactly what type of grinder would be the "correct" one?

No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander or
a file, the file being preferable.

nb


   
Date: 23 Jan 2007 22:17:13
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote:

>On 2007-01-23, RoughJaw <rj@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Enlighten us. Exactly what type of grinder would be the "correct" one?
>
>No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander or
>a file, the file being preferable.
>

An abrasive grinding wheel is not only not good for materials like
brass- it can actually be dangerous... deadly even.

Depending on what part needs to be sized, a belt sander or file is
definitely the better choice... But for that much $$, I would want the
right one that fits properly....

Randy "filit" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




    
Date: 24 Jan 2007 09:46:20
From: notbob
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
On 2007-01-24, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote:
> notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

>>No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander or
>>a file, the file being preferable.

> An abrasive grinding wheel is not only not good for materials like
> brass-

> Depending on what part needs to be sized, a belt sander or file is
> definitely the better choice...

What? ...alt.coffee now comes with "echo"?

nb


     
Date: 24 Jan 2007 15:03:09
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote:

>On 2007-01-24, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote:
>> notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:
>
>>>No grinder is good for brass. You'be be better off with a sander or
>>>a file, the file being preferable.
>
>> An abrasive grinding wheel is not only not good for materials like
>> brass-
>
>> Depending on what part needs to be sized, a belt sander or file is
>> definitely the better choice...
>
>What? ...alt.coffee now comes with "echo"?
>

Well.. I suppose you could be pissy and call it "echo" or positive and
call it "agreement"...


Randy "POV" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




      
Date: 24 Jan 2007 18:04:01
From: notbob
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
On 2007-01-24, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote:

> Well.. I suppose you could be pissy and call it "echo" or positive and
> call it "agreement"...

...or cut to the chase and call it ego.

nb


       
Date: 24 Jan 2007 22:16:03
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote:

>On 2007-01-24, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Well.. I suppose you could be pissy and call it "echo" or positive and
>> call it "agreement"...
>
>...or cut to the chase and call it ego.
>

As a firefighter I went on a call for a victim who had a small
grinding wheel blow apart and come very close to ending any useful
function of one hand, damaging a good part of the wrist. I remember
seeing bits of what was left of his metal, flexi watch band imbedded
deeply in and amongst the torn tissue and bone. That was why I added
the bit concerning the _safety issue_ of using a grinder to work brass
which I had not seen mentioned in the thread previously.

As far as any agreement with you, I am indeed sorry for that at this
point.

Randy "just trying to care, but some folks make it tough" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com







        
Date: 25 Jan 2007 02:52:32
From: notbob
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
On 2007-01-25, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote:

> As a firefighter I went on a call for a victim who had a small
> grinding wheel blow apart and....

[snip life history and drama queen schtick]

What? ...grinding wheels are totally useless for brass is not
enough?

> As far as any agreement with you, I am indeed sorry for that at this
> point.

Aren't we all.

> Randy "just trying to care........

We remain gratefully ...nay... unforgetfully ...no wait....
unendingly, painfully forever, in your debt. Thank you.

nb ...only a prick to the overinflated



       
Date: 25 Jan 2007 00:10:02
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
OR, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE.
--
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http://tinyurl.com/psfob
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r

"notbob" <notbob@nothome.com > wrote in message
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> On 2007-01-24, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Well.. I suppose you could be pissy and call it "echo" or positive and
>> call it "agreement"...
>
> ...or cut to the chase and call it ego.
>
> nb




 
Date: 23 Jan 2007 11:27:03
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
Brass is pretty easy to file so you can probably get it to work assuming you
can do rudimentary metal work. Just compare the dimensions of your old PF to
the new and work carefully so you don't remove too much. OTOH, you'll
remove the chrome from the ears in the process and it will probably look
somewhat butchered, but still functional. It's up to you as to whether you
value time over appearance and shipping costs.






"TJ" <invictica@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1169557023.261346.188380@d71g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Just got my La zocco 15 degree portafilter in the mail for the
> Silvia. It didn't occur to me to let them (espressoparts nw) know it's
> for that application so now the tabs are too big! Out of pure
> impatients, should I attempt to cut the tabs to size or send it back to
> get the proper fit? Anyone else go through this?
>
>
>
> -tj
>




  
Date: 23 Jan 2007 17:08:40
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
It's even OK to remove too much, just go at it until the PF will fit into
the group. The PF rotates into locking position using the tapered part of
the tabs & locks using the bottom edge, so if you accidentally remove too
much material from the trailing edge it will have no impact on performance
or safety.

So, as Jack said, if the appearance of a hacked PF is OK with you, get the
files out & go for it.

--
Robert (If a little's good, more's better!) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/psfob
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r

"Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote in message
news:7dadnUKSw8PKqivYnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Brass is pretty easy to file so you can probably get it to work assuming
> you can do rudimentary metal work. Just compare the dimensions of your old
> PF to the new and work carefully so you don't remove too much. OTOH,
> you'll remove the chrome from the ears in the process and it will probably
> look somewhat butchered, but still functional. It's up to you as to
> whether you value time over appearance and shipping costs.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "TJ" <invictica@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1169557023.261346.188380@d71g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Just got my La zocco 15 degree portafilter in the mail for the
>> Silvia. It didn't occur to me to let them (espressoparts nw) know it's
>> for that application so now the tabs are too big! Out of pure
>> impatients, should I attempt to cut the tabs to size or send it back to
>> get the proper fit? Anyone else go through this?
>>
>>
>>
>> -tj
>>
>
>




 
Date: 23 Jan 2007 05:55:14
From: daveb
Subject: Re: la marzocco portafilter
Are you skilled and practiced with the correct type of grinder?

if not . . .

dave
www.hitechespresso.com