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Date: 06 Nov 2006 12:32:51
From: Patricia
Subject: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
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Hi, Plse be gentle with me. I have lurked, but am even more confused than I began with, the terminology is different from the Australian. I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had for about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a bit edgy about aluminium and high temperatures anyway. So I need a new, stovetop, probably 4 cup coffee-maker. I drink mine black and strong. I'm tending towards stainless steel, and the attraction of putting it in the dishwasher is strong too! What can people recommend? I don't have a commitment to any particular brand, I want something durable and I don't want to mess around with something that makes a cappucino as well. My visitors will have to add milk to their cup if they want to :-) Grateful for all and any suggestions. Desperate to buy a new one. Patricia P Perth, Australia Take out the rubbish to reply direct.
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Date: 11 Nov 2006 01:44:56
From: Refolo
Subject: Re: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
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On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:32:51 +0800, "Patricia" <gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com > wrote: >I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had for >about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a bit edgy If you was happy with Bialetti, why not Bialetti again, but in steel? I have a Venus and I am happy with. Or this one is very good too: http://www.ilsa-italy.it/inglese/prodotto.asp?cat=3&path=1,3&cod=90&sottocat=12&prodotto=869&pr= The name is Espresso because it is faster than a Moka, but it makes a moka coffee not an espresso. Maybe you can try getting here in Italy, I believe prices are lower but consider shipping and customs: http://eshop.bialetti.it/uk/news/news.asp
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 19:55:39
From: Natalie Drest
Subject: Re: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
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I like the look of this one, http://www.alltry.com.au/commerce/search/products/?product_id=ACC604&merchant_id=1670 mostly because of the shape. Not for aesthetic reasons, but because it's wider at the base than the top. That seems to work better- though I haven't used this particular model. I like the side-handle, too. The rest of their range is here- http://www.alltry.com.au/perfectcup/stovetop.html. I have a few aluminium ones, they seem to grow nasty stuff in them... they pit & corrode. & that missing aluminium has to go somewhere... My SSteel one is better- but the bottom half has a round profile, & isn't as stable. Also, the smaller base lets heat get past & heat the handle. Not a well-thought-out design. A wider base is best, I think. Having said that, a few Gaggias have gone on eBay for the same money as the above SSteel stovetop- so if you like black, you'd love the espressos these things can make. But of course, then you'll need a grinder, & access to fresh coffee etc. etc. ad infinitum.... "Patricia" <gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com > wrote in message news:454ebaf6@quokka.wn.com.au... > Hi, > Plse be gentle with me. I have lurked, but am even more confused than I > began with, the terminology is different from the Australian. > > I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had > for about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a bit > edgy about aluminium and high temperatures anyway. So I need a new, > stovetop, probably 4 cup coffee-maker. I drink mine black and strong. > I'm tending towards stainless steel, and the attraction of putting it in > the dishwasher is strong too! > > What can people recommend? I don't have a commitment to any particular > brand, I want something durable and I don't want to mess around with > something that makes a cappucino as well. My visitors will have to add > milk to their cup if they want to :-) > > Grateful for all and any suggestions. Desperate to buy a new one. > > Patricia P > Perth, Australia > > Take out the rubbish to reply direct. >
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 20:02:06
From: Natalie Drest
Subject: Re: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
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Sorry, meant to mention that the Gaggias i was referring to were on Ebay Australia... I bought an Evolution (my second, actually). There's a few Carezzas on at the moment. They usually come with an instruction book- but if not, it's downloadable. Make sure it has the heavy group handle... Stovetop coffee is good... machine espresso is much better. "Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net > wrote in message news:454ef810@dnews.tpgi.com.au... >I like the look of this one, >http://www.alltry.com.au/commerce/search/products/?product_id=ACC604&merchant_id=1670 > mostly because of the shape. Not for aesthetic reasons, but because it's > wider at the base than the top. > That seems to work better- though I haven't used this particular model. I > like the side-handle, too. > The rest of their range is here- > http://www.alltry.com.au/perfectcup/stovetop.html. > > I have a few aluminium ones, they seem to grow nasty stuff in them... they > pit & corrode. & that missing aluminium has to go somewhere... > My SSteel one is better- but the bottom half has a round profile, & isn't > as stable. Also, the smaller base lets heat get past & heat the handle. > Not a well-thought-out design. A wider base is best, I think. > > Having said that, a few Gaggias have gone on eBay for the same money as > the above SSteel stovetop- so if you like black, you'd love the espressos > these things can make. > > But of course, then you'll need a grinder, & access to fresh coffee etc. > etc. ad infinitum.... > > > > "Patricia" <gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com> wrote in message > news:454ebaf6@quokka.wn.com.au... >> Hi, >> Plse be gentle with me. I have lurked, but am even more confused than I >> began with, the terminology is different from the Australian. >> >> I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had >> for about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a bit >> edgy about aluminium and high temperatures anyway. So I need a new, >> stovetop, probably 4 cup coffee-maker. I drink mine black and strong. >> I'm tending towards stainless steel, and the attraction of putting it in >> the dishwasher is strong too! >> >> What can people recommend? I don't have a commitment to any particular >> brand, I want something durable and I don't want to mess around with >> something that makes a cappucino as well. My visitors will have to add >> milk to their cup if they want to :-) >> >> Grateful for all and any suggestions. Desperate to buy a new one. >> >> Patricia P >> Perth, Australia >> >> Take out the rubbish to reply direct. >> > >
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 17:15:55
From: Patricia
Subject: Re: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
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Sadly, machine espresso for a one-drinker household is an expensive way to go. "Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net > wrote in message news:454ef992$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au... > Sorry, meant to mention that the Gaggias i was referring to were on Ebay > Australia... I bought an Evolution (my second, actually). There's a few > Carezzas on at the moment. They usually come with an instruction book- but > if not, it's downloadable. Make sure it has the heavy group handle... > > Stovetop coffee is good... machine espresso is much better. > > "Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net> wrote in message > news:454ef810@dnews.tpgi.com.au... >>I like the look of this one, >>http://www.alltry.com.au/commerce/search/products/?product_id=ACC604&merchant_id=1670 >> mostly because of the shape. Not for aesthetic reasons, but because it's >> wider at the base than the top. >> That seems to work better- though I haven't used this particular model. I >> like the side-handle, too. >> The rest of their range is here- >> http://www.alltry.com.au/perfectcup/stovetop.html. >> >> I have a few aluminium ones, they seem to grow nasty stuff in them... >> they pit & corrode. & that missing aluminium has to go somewhere... >> My SSteel one is better- but the bottom half has a round profile, & isn't >> as stable. Also, the smaller base lets heat get past & heat the handle. >> Not a well-thought-out design. A wider base is best, I think. >> >> Having said that, a few Gaggias have gone on eBay for the same money as >> the above SSteel stovetop- so if you like black, you'd love the espressos >> these things can make. >> >> But of course, then you'll need a grinder, & access to fresh coffee etc. >> etc. ad infinitum.... >> >> >> >> "Patricia" <gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com> wrote in message >> news:454ebaf6@quokka.wn.com.au... >>> Hi, >>> Plse be gentle with me. I have lurked, but am even more confused than I >>> began with, the terminology is different from the Australian. >>> >>> I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had >>> for about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a >>> bit edgy about aluminium and high temperatures anyway. So I need a new, >>> stovetop, probably 4 cup coffee-maker. I drink mine black and strong. >>> I'm tending towards stainless steel, and the attraction of putting it in >>> the dishwasher is strong too! >>> >>> What can people recommend? I don't have a commitment to any particular >>> brand, I want something durable and I don't want to mess around with >>> something that makes a cappucino as well. My visitors will have to add >>> milk to their cup if they want to :-) >>> >>> Grateful for all and any suggestions. Desperate to buy a new one. >>> >>> Patricia P >>> Perth, Australia >>> >>> Take out the rubbish to reply direct. >>> >> >> > >
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 20:35:08
From: Natalie Drest
Subject: Re: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
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Same price as a S/Steel stovetop, if you pick one up from Ebay... that was my point. My last Evolution cost me $51. It needed a good clean but is now A1. "Patricia" <gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com > wrote in message news:454efd4e$1@quokka.wn.com.au... > Sadly, machine espresso for a one-drinker household is an expensive way to > go. > > "Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net> wrote in message > news:454ef992$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au... >> Sorry, meant to mention that the Gaggias i was referring to were on Ebay >> Australia... I bought an Evolution (my second, actually). There's a few >> Carezzas on at the moment. They usually come with an instruction book- >> but if not, it's downloadable. Make sure it has the heavy group handle... >> >> Stovetop coffee is good... machine espresso is much better. >> >> "Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net> wrote in message >> news:454ef810@dnews.tpgi.com.au... >>>I like the look of this one, >>>http://www.alltry.com.au/commerce/search/products/?product_id=ACC604&merchant_id=1670 >>> mostly because of the shape. Not for aesthetic reasons, but because it's >>> wider at the base than the top. >>> That seems to work better- though I haven't used this particular model. >>> I like the side-handle, too. >>> The rest of their range is here- >>> http://www.alltry.com.au/perfectcup/stovetop.html. >>> >>> I have a few aluminium ones, they seem to grow nasty stuff in them... >>> they pit & corrode. & that missing aluminium has to go somewhere... >>> My SSteel one is better- but the bottom half has a round profile, & >>> isn't as stable. Also, the smaller base lets heat get past & heat the >>> handle. Not a well-thought-out design. A wider base is best, I think. >>> >>> Having said that, a few Gaggias have gone on eBay for the same money as >>> the above SSteel stovetop- so if you like black, you'd love the >>> espressos these things can make. >>> >>> But of course, then you'll need a grinder, & access to fresh coffee etc. >>> etc. ad infinitum.... >>> >>> >>> >>> "Patricia" <gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:454ebaf6@quokka.wn.com.au... >>>> Hi, >>>> Plse be gentle with me. I have lurked, but am even more confused than >>>> I began with, the terminology is different from the Australian. >>>> >>>> I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had >>>> for about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a >>>> bit edgy about aluminium and high temperatures anyway. So I need a >>>> new, stovetop, probably 4 cup coffee-maker. I drink mine black and >>>> strong. I'm tending towards stainless steel, and the attraction of >>>> putting it in the dishwasher is strong too! >>>> >>>> What can people recommend? I don't have a commitment to any particular >>>> brand, I want something durable and I don't want to mess around with >>>> something that makes a cappucino as well. My visitors will have to add >>>> milk to their cup if they want to :-) >>>> >>>> Grateful for all and any suggestions. Desperate to buy a new one. >>>> >>>> Patricia P >>>> Perth, Australia >>>> >>>> Take out the rubbish to reply direct. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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