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Date: 06 Nov 2006 12:32:51
From: Patricia
Subject: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
Hi,
Plse be gentle with me. I have lurked, but am even more confused than I
began with, the terminology is different from the Australian.

I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had for
about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a bit edgy
about aluminium and high temperatures anyway. So I need a new, stovetop,
probably 4 cup coffee-maker. I drink mine black and strong. I'm tending
towards stainless steel, and the attraction of putting it in the dishwasher
is strong too!

What can people recommend? I don't have a commitment to any particular
brand, I want something durable and I don't want to mess around with
something that makes a cappucino as well. My visitors will have to add milk
to their cup if they want to :-)

Grateful for all and any suggestions. Desperate to buy a new one.

Patricia P
Perth, Australia

Take out the rubbish to reply direct.






 
Date: 11 Nov 2006 01:44:56
From: Refolo
Subject: Re: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:32:51 +0800, "Patricia"
<gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com > wrote:

>I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had for
>about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a bit edgy

If you was happy with Bialetti, why not Bialetti again, but in steel?
I have a Venus and I am happy with.

Or this one is very good too:

http://www.ilsa-italy.it/inglese/prodotto.asp?cat=3&path=1,3&cod=90&sottocat=12&prodotto=869&pr=

The name is Espresso because it is faster than a Moka, but it makes a
moka coffee not an espresso.

Maybe you can try getting here in Italy, I believe prices are lower
but consider shipping and customs:

http://eshop.bialetti.it/uk/news/news.asp


 
Date: 06 Nov 2006 19:55:39
From: Natalie Drest
Subject: Re: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
I like the look of this one,
http://www.alltry.com.au/commerce/search/products/?product_id=ACC604&merchant_id=1670
mostly because of the shape. Not for aesthetic reasons, but because it's
wider at the base than the top.
That seems to work better- though I haven't used this particular model. I
like the side-handle, too.
The rest of their range is here-
http://www.alltry.com.au/perfectcup/stovetop.html.

I have a few aluminium ones, they seem to grow nasty stuff in them... they
pit & corrode. & that missing aluminium has to go somewhere...
My SSteel one is better- but the bottom half has a round profile, & isn't as
stable. Also, the smaller base lets heat get past & heat the handle. Not a
well-thought-out design. A wider base is best, I think.

Having said that, a few Gaggias have gone on eBay for the same money as the
above SSteel stovetop- so if you like black, you'd love the espressos these
things can make.

But of course, then you'll need a grinder, & access to fresh coffee etc.
etc. ad infinitum....



"Patricia" <gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com > wrote in message
news:454ebaf6@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Hi,
> Plse be gentle with me. I have lurked, but am even more confused than I
> began with, the terminology is different from the Australian.
>
> I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had
> for about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a bit
> edgy about aluminium and high temperatures anyway. So I need a new,
> stovetop, probably 4 cup coffee-maker. I drink mine black and strong.
> I'm tending towards stainless steel, and the attraction of putting it in
> the dishwasher is strong too!
>
> What can people recommend? I don't have a commitment to any particular
> brand, I want something durable and I don't want to mess around with
> something that makes a cappucino as well. My visitors will have to add
> milk to their cup if they want to :-)
>
> Grateful for all and any suggestions. Desperate to buy a new one.
>
> Patricia P
> Perth, Australia
>
> Take out the rubbish to reply direct.
>




  
Date: 06 Nov 2006 20:02:06
From: Natalie Drest
Subject: Re: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
Sorry, meant to mention that the Gaggias i was referring to were on Ebay
Australia... I bought an Evolution (my second, actually). There's a few
Carezzas on at the moment. They usually come with an instruction book- but
if not, it's downloadable. Make sure it has the heavy group handle...

Stovetop coffee is good... machine espresso is much better.

"Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net > wrote in message
news:454ef810@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>I like the look of this one,
>http://www.alltry.com.au/commerce/search/products/?product_id=ACC604&merchant_id=1670
> mostly because of the shape. Not for aesthetic reasons, but because it's
> wider at the base than the top.
> That seems to work better- though I haven't used this particular model. I
> like the side-handle, too.
> The rest of their range is here-
> http://www.alltry.com.au/perfectcup/stovetop.html.
>
> I have a few aluminium ones, they seem to grow nasty stuff in them... they
> pit & corrode. & that missing aluminium has to go somewhere...
> My SSteel one is better- but the bottom half has a round profile, & isn't
> as stable. Also, the smaller base lets heat get past & heat the handle.
> Not a well-thought-out design. A wider base is best, I think.
>
> Having said that, a few Gaggias have gone on eBay for the same money as
> the above SSteel stovetop- so if you like black, you'd love the espressos
> these things can make.
>
> But of course, then you'll need a grinder, & access to fresh coffee etc.
> etc. ad infinitum....
>
>
>
> "Patricia" <gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:454ebaf6@quokka.wn.com.au...
>> Hi,
>> Plse be gentle with me. I have lurked, but am even more confused than I
>> began with, the terminology is different from the Australian.
>>
>> I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had
>> for about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a bit
>> edgy about aluminium and high temperatures anyway. So I need a new,
>> stovetop, probably 4 cup coffee-maker. I drink mine black and strong.
>> I'm tending towards stainless steel, and the attraction of putting it in
>> the dishwasher is strong too!
>>
>> What can people recommend? I don't have a commitment to any particular
>> brand, I want something durable and I don't want to mess around with
>> something that makes a cappucino as well. My visitors will have to add
>> milk to their cup if they want to :-)
>>
>> Grateful for all and any suggestions. Desperate to buy a new one.
>>
>> Patricia P
>> Perth, Australia
>>
>> Take out the rubbish to reply direct.
>>
>
>




   
Date: 06 Nov 2006 17:15:55
From: Patricia
Subject: Re: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
Sadly, machine espresso for a one-drinker household is an expensive way to
go.

"Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net > wrote in message
news:454ef992$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Sorry, meant to mention that the Gaggias i was referring to were on Ebay
> Australia... I bought an Evolution (my second, actually). There's a few
> Carezzas on at the moment. They usually come with an instruction book- but
> if not, it's downloadable. Make sure it has the heavy group handle...
>
> Stovetop coffee is good... machine espresso is much better.
>
> "Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net> wrote in message
> news:454ef810@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>I like the look of this one,
>>http://www.alltry.com.au/commerce/search/products/?product_id=ACC604&merchant_id=1670
>> mostly because of the shape. Not for aesthetic reasons, but because it's
>> wider at the base than the top.
>> That seems to work better- though I haven't used this particular model. I
>> like the side-handle, too.
>> The rest of their range is here-
>> http://www.alltry.com.au/perfectcup/stovetop.html.
>>
>> I have a few aluminium ones, they seem to grow nasty stuff in them...
>> they pit & corrode. & that missing aluminium has to go somewhere...
>> My SSteel one is better- but the bottom half has a round profile, & isn't
>> as stable. Also, the smaller base lets heat get past & heat the handle.
>> Not a well-thought-out design. A wider base is best, I think.
>>
>> Having said that, a few Gaggias have gone on eBay for the same money as
>> the above SSteel stovetop- so if you like black, you'd love the espressos
>> these things can make.
>>
>> But of course, then you'll need a grinder, & access to fresh coffee etc.
>> etc. ad infinitum....
>>
>>
>>
>> "Patricia" <gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:454ebaf6@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>> Hi,
>>> Plse be gentle with me. I have lurked, but am even more confused than I
>>> began with, the terminology is different from the Australian.
>>>
>>> I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had
>>> for about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a
>>> bit edgy about aluminium and high temperatures anyway. So I need a new,
>>> stovetop, probably 4 cup coffee-maker. I drink mine black and strong.
>>> I'm tending towards stainless steel, and the attraction of putting it in
>>> the dishwasher is strong too!
>>>
>>> What can people recommend? I don't have a commitment to any particular
>>> brand, I want something durable and I don't want to mess around with
>>> something that makes a cappucino as well. My visitors will have to add
>>> milk to their cup if they want to :-)
>>>
>>> Grateful for all and any suggestions. Desperate to buy a new one.
>>>
>>> Patricia P
>>> Perth, Australia
>>>
>>> Take out the rubbish to reply direct.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




    
Date: 06 Nov 2006 20:35:08
From: Natalie Drest
Subject: Re: newbie - stovetop: stainless steel v. aluminium
Same price as a S/Steel stovetop, if you pick one up from Ebay... that was
my point. My last Evolution cost me $51.
It needed a good clean but is now A1.


"Patricia" <gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com > wrote in message
news:454efd4e$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Sadly, machine espresso for a one-drinker household is an expensive way to
> go.
>
> "Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net> wrote in message
> news:454ef992$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> Sorry, meant to mention that the Gaggias i was referring to were on Ebay
>> Australia... I bought an Evolution (my second, actually). There's a few
>> Carezzas on at the moment. They usually come with an instruction book-
>> but if not, it's downloadable. Make sure it has the heavy group handle...
>>
>> Stovetop coffee is good... machine espresso is much better.
>>
>> "Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net> wrote in message
>> news:454ef810@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>>I like the look of this one,
>>>http://www.alltry.com.au/commerce/search/products/?product_id=ACC604&merchant_id=1670
>>> mostly because of the shape. Not for aesthetic reasons, but because it's
>>> wider at the base than the top.
>>> That seems to work better- though I haven't used this particular model.
>>> I like the side-handle, too.
>>> The rest of their range is here-
>>> http://www.alltry.com.au/perfectcup/stovetop.html.
>>>
>>> I have a few aluminium ones, they seem to grow nasty stuff in them...
>>> they pit & corrode. & that missing aluminium has to go somewhere...
>>> My SSteel one is better- but the bottom half has a round profile, &
>>> isn't as stable. Also, the smaller base lets heat get past & heat the
>>> handle. Not a well-thought-out design. A wider base is best, I think.
>>>
>>> Having said that, a few Gaggias have gone on eBay for the same money as
>>> the above SSteel stovetop- so if you like black, you'd love the
>>> espressos these things can make.
>>>
>>> But of course, then you'll need a grinder, & access to fresh coffee etc.
>>> etc. ad infinitum....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Patricia" <gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:454ebaf6@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Plse be gentle with me. I have lurked, but am even more confused than
>>>> I began with, the terminology is different from the Australian.
>>>>
>>>> I have a Bialetti stovetop aluminium coffee/espress maker that I've had
>>>> for about 10 years. The end of the funnel is deteriorating and I'm a
>>>> bit edgy about aluminium and high temperatures anyway. So I need a
>>>> new, stovetop, probably 4 cup coffee-maker. I drink mine black and
>>>> strong. I'm tending towards stainless steel, and the attraction of
>>>> putting it in the dishwasher is strong too!
>>>>
>>>> What can people recommend? I don't have a commitment to any particular
>>>> brand, I want something durable and I don't want to mess around with
>>>> something that makes a cappucino as well. My visitors will have to add
>>>> milk to their cup if they want to :-)
>>>>
>>>> Grateful for all and any suggestions. Desperate to buy a new one.
>>>>
>>>> Patricia P
>>>> Perth, Australia
>>>>
>>>> Take out the rubbish to reply direct.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>