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Date: 09 Sep 2006 13:11:56
From: david
Subject: opinion wanted: Isomac Zaffiro vs. Espobar pulsar
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Hi all. I'm considering a new espresso machine and thinking to buy either Isomac Zaffiro or Espobar pulsar. Any home users have some experiences with those machines? Or do you have other recommendation for E61 - HX espresso machine with the price range of those machines. Thank you.
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 06:54:30
From: david
Subject: Thank alot ya'll
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Great great great respond and I finally change my mind about my choice. That's right, both machine I consider are fairly old machines and I didn't know Quickmill has a lever-type true E61 - HX machine for under 1k and ECM machine is over my budget either. I'll consider Quickmill Anita as my priority and newer usually is better. Thanks alot ya'll with the respond.
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 01:08:38
From: CrackAddict
Subject: Re: opinion wanted: Isomac Zaffiro vs. Espobar pulsar
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I've had an Expobar Office Control for about two years now. It's been great. My choice was based on it's E-61 "psuedo" grouphead (treu, it is not as finished as those on machines with exposed groupheads, but it certainly isn't cheaply-made) HX, size and price. I am very happy with the purchase. I've made a couple of small mods and recently needed to buy another machine when we built a cottage. My original intent was to get a more expensive machine to replace the Office at home, but as I looked at the prices and what I got for another $600, I decided on a second Office! (lightly used). The Office lacks a pressure gauge, but I just use a PF-mounted gauge for original setup tuning - I don't see the need to watch pressure for each shot. The Office is a mid-level machine but it is well-built (IMHO) and has given no trouble. I mix RO water with tap and check with a small TDS meter. The Office is a nice size for a small kitchen and fits in well. I think it's excellent value for the money. WLL often sells "demo" machines on that auction site - oddly they will not respond to direct requests for a demo machine (I ended up buying mine privately). Our coffee mix is about 80% cappuccino and 20% espresso, so good steaming is a priority and the Office delivers. I have replaced the OEM steam wand with "cool touch" wands and it's a big improvement. > Hi all. > > I'm considering a new espresso machine and thinking to buy either > Isomac Zaffiro or Espobar pulsar. Any home users have some experiences > with those machines? Or do you have other recommendation for E61 - HX > espresso machine with the price range of those machines. > > Thank you.
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 17:34:37
From: daveb
Subject: Re: opinion wanted: Isomac Zaffiro vs. Espobar pulsar
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with the soon to be announced 'pid' option :-) dave 113 shall wrote: > On 9 Sep 2006 13:11:56 -0700, "david" <dtanuwi@gmail.com> wrote: > > >Hi all. > > > >I'm considering a new espresso machine and thinking to buy either > >Isomac Zaffiro or Espobar pulsar. Any home users have some experiences > >with those machines? Or do you have other recommendation for E61 - HX > >espresso machine with the price range of those machines. > > > >Thank you. > > In its heyday a few years ago (when I bought mine), the Zaffiro had no > E-61, non-HX competition. Today, I'd probably buy a Quick Mill Alexia. > > shall
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 19:13:09
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: opinion wanted: Isomac Zaffiro vs. Espobar pulsar
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On 9 Sep 2006 13:11:56 -0700, "david" <dtanuwi@gmail.com > wrote: >Hi all. > >I'm considering a new espresso machine and thinking to buy either >Isomac Zaffiro or Espobar pulsar. Any home users have some experiences >with those machines? Or do you have other recommendation for E61 - HX >espresso machine with the price range of those machines. > >Thank you. In its heyday a few years ago (when I bought mine), the Zaffiro had no E-61, non-HX competition. Today, I'd probably buy a Quick Mill Alexia. shall
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 12:04:43
From: Dean
Subject: Re: opinion wanted: Isomac Zaffiro vs. Espobar pulsar
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I got a QuickMill Anita HX/E61 machine--basic design, pretty solid in the 15 months I've had it. Currently $995 at Chris'. He also has a Single Boiler (no HX) he's calling Alexia @ $775 including shipping so either, depending on your preferences. Both are lever-type true E61 group, come with 2 porta- filters, etc. Isomac had some "issues" a year or two ago--seems to me that they were commercial, not technical, but I could be wrong. I looked at the Tea & Millennium, but they got to be hard to find. Expobar: I didn't like the psuedo-E61 group and I think the internals are lower grade than the QuickMill machines. For the difference in price, I'd still go for a QuickMill. david wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm considering a new espresso machine and thinking to buy either > Isomac Zaffiro or Espobar pulsar. Any home users have some experiences > with those machines? Or do you have other recommendation for E61 - HX > espresso machine with the price range of those machines. > > Thank you. >
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