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Date: 11 Jul 2007 06:22:23
From: Randy R
Subject: shocking coffee experience in Boston
I just spent the last 5 days at a business conference in Boston.

My wife, my mother and I actually flew into Washington DC on July 2nd.
We stayed for the 4th. My coffee highlight of being in DC was visiting
Murky Coffee in both Arlington and in Washington. The shop in
Arlington is huge, plus is has a separate cupping and training room.
It even has a second floor. The original Murky location in DC is a
typical big city hole in the wall but still nice. The coffee in both
places was excellent and I assumed it would be the only good coffee I
would get on this trip.

We rented a car in Washington and drove to New York city on the 5th
and did the tourist thing there. We saw David Hyde Pierce in a
surprisingly good musical called Curtains. We stayed in New Jersey and
took the ferry over to midtown NY.

We drove on to Boston on the 7th. Once we got out of New York it was a
beautiful drive. I have never seen such pretty green roads other than
maybe in Canada.

Today (Wednesday,) the last day of the conference I noticed on the
show floor, someone behind an espresso machine making drinks. Against
my better judgment I ordered a latte. Maybe it was because the
barrista was wasn't making any of the tell-tale noises typical PBTCs
make when they scald milk and make espresso shots too short or long.

My first sip of my drink pretty much blew my mind. This latte was
possibly the best tasting latte I have ever had. There was no fancy
latte art like I got at Murky's and it was hotter than I normally
liked but it was still great. The barrista told me the espresso was a
brand called Musetti that his father's company was the sole importer
of from Italy. Frank, the barrista, actually went to Italy to train
and be certified as a barrista. (Italy has an official certification
program.) His company is called Black Tie Espresso http://blacktieespresso.com
and they cater in the Boston area. He gave me his card in case I
wanted to order some of his espresso.

Randy Rostie





 
Date: 26 Jul 2007 23:04:07
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston


  
Date: 27 Jul 2007 09:57:26
From: roland
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:04:07 GMT, ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D.
Ross) wrote:

>Their coffee is OK, but not my favorite even among Italian commercial
>blends.

And which would be your favorites?

Inquiring mind wants to know:-))


roland
--
The Gods, who are infinite, give everything entirely to those whom they love: all joys, which are infinite, and all griefs, which are infinite - entirely.
J.W.v.Goethe


   
Date: 28 Jul 2007 00:39:01
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston
roland <orlando2@fantasymail.de > wrote:



    
Date: 28 Jul 2007 14:40:30
From: *alan*
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston

"D. Ross" <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu > wrote in message
news:46aa8df4.269980571@localhost...
> roland <orlando2@fantasymail.de> wrote:
>
>


 
Date: 17 Jul 2007 16:30:45
From: Jenn
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston
Another great place in the Boston area is Simon's in Cambridge (http://
www.simonscoffeeshop.com/). The coffee is always excellent as is the
latte art. They use Terroir coffee (http://www.terroircoffee.com/).

Jenn



 
Date: 16 Jul 2007 15:26:25
From: Randy R
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston
On Jul 16, 2:35 pm, roland koch <orlan...@fantasymail.de > wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:22:23 -0000, Randy R <rros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >The barrista told me the espresso was a
> >brand called Musetti that his father's company was the sole importer
> >of from Italy.
>
> You owe me EUR 370 ;-))
> Your story made me jump and look for an importer here in Germany.
>
> Found one, nice people. Ordered a kind of "starter-kit":
> Santos, Evoluzione, Cremissimo, Crema speziale, Al Arabia, Italia and
> good ole Espresso.
>
> Well, my customers better prepare for degustation weeks:-))
>
> roland
> --
> The Gods, who are infinite, give everything entirely to those whom they love: all joys, which are infinite, and all griefs, which are infinite - entirely.
> J.W.v.Goethe

Please let me know how it goes.

Randy R



  
Date: 17 Jul 2007 22:44:20
From: roland koch
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:26:25 -0700, Randy R <rrostie@gmail.com > wrote:

>Please let me know how it goes.

I am very curious myself..

First we have to finish the last beans we got from Langen Kaffee.
This is a small roaster famous under German coffee geeks. Already
chosen two his blends to start the autumn season.

A surprising side-effect of the Starbucks, Fellowes, SFCC invasion in
this country is a revival of small roasters. A small bunch still, but
what they have to offer seems to meet a real demand. Many customers
got wary of what the Big Five of the coffee market are throwing at
them. 90% of the coffee sold in Germany comes from them, not always
under their own label, seldom in good quality.

I feel very at ease fighting them from my tiny niche;-))


roland
--
The Gods, who are infinite, give everything entirely to those whom they love: all joys, which are infinite, and all griefs, which are infinite - entirely.
J.W.v.Goethe


 
Date: 16 Jul 2007 21:35:11
From: roland koch
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:22:23 -0000, Randy R <rrostie@gmail.com > wrote:

>The barrista told me the espresso was a
>brand called Musetti that his father's company was the sole importer
>of from Italy.

You owe me EUR 370 ;-))
Your story made me jump and look for an importer here in Germany.

Found one, nice people. Ordered a kind of "starter-kit":
Santos, Evoluzione, Cremissimo, Crema speziale, Al Arabia, Italia and
good ole Espresso.

Well, my customers better prepare for degustation weeks:-))


roland
--
The Gods, who are infinite, give everything entirely to those whom they love: all joys, which are infinite, and all griefs, which are infinite - entirely.
J.W.v.Goethe


 
Date: 13 Jul 2007 20:05:19
From: Nick Cho
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston
On Jul 11, 2:22 am, Randy R <rros...@gmail.com > wrote:
> I just spent the last 5 days at a business conference in Boston.
>
> My wife, my mother and I actually flew into Washington DC on July 2nd.
> We stayed for the 4th. My coffee highlight of being in DC was visiting
> Murky Coffee in both Arlington and in Washington. The shop in
> Arlington is huge, plus is has a separate cupping and training room.
> It even has a second floor. The original Murky location in DC is a
> typical big city hole in the wall but still nice. The coffee in both
> places was excellent and I assumed it would be the only good coffee I
> would get on this trip.
> >
> Randy Rostie

What the heck, Randy? No email, no call? C'mon! :-)
No matter. Glad you had a good experience.

On Jul 13, 7:03 pm, Randy R <rros...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> Jaho is Korean for coffee.

Umm... no it isn't. :-)
Korean for coffee is "koh-pee" (a mere romanization... similar to the
word "kopi" in "kopi luwak")




 
Date: 13 Jul 2007 23:03:52
From: Randy R
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston
Today I had another pleasant surprise. Jaho Coffee and Tea
http://jahotea.com/jaho/About.html in Salem, MA. owned by Anil Mezini.

Jaho is Korean for coffee. I only went in the place because I saw they
had a La Marzocco FB-80. They also had a LM Swift grinder and a Mazzer
Robur. I didn't ask what coffee they use but the latte I ordered was
very good. The website mentioned above says the owner was in Korea
when he thought about opening a coffee shop and fell in love with
coffee in Italy then he learned about tea in Japan.



  
Date: 16 Jul 2007 12:01:31
From: Seth Goodman
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston
In article <1184367832.478964.34140@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >, on
Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:03:52 -0000, Randy R wrote:

> Today I had another pleasant surprise. Jaho Coffee and Tea
> http://jahotea.com/jaho/About.html in Salem, MA. owned by Anil Mezini.

If you're still in the area, try The Atomic Cafe on Cabot Street in
Beverly - just across the bridge from Salem. They made me the best
espresso I've ever had in the Boston area.

http://www.atomicafe.com/

--
Seth Goodman


 
Date: 11 Jul 2007 15:18:54
From: Travesso
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston
On Jul 11, 2:22 am, Randy R <rros...@gmail.com > wrote:
> I just spent the last 5 days at a business conference in Boston.
>
> My wife, my mother and I actually flew into Washington DC on July 2nd.
> We stayed for the 4th. My coffee highlight of being in DC was visiting
> Murky Coffee in both Arlington and in Washington. The shop in
> Arlington is huge, plus is has a separate cupping and training room.
> It even has a second floor. The original Murky location in DC is a
> typical big city hole in the wall but still nice. The coffee in both
> places was excellent and I assumed it would be the only good coffee I
> would get on this trip.
>
> We rented a car in Washington and drove to New York city on the 5th
> and did the tourist thing there. We saw David Hyde Pierce in a
> surprisingly good musical called Curtains. We stayed in New Jersey and
> took the ferry over to midtown NY.
>
> We drove on to Boston on the 7th. Once we got out of New York it was a
> beautiful drive. I have never seen such pretty green roads other than
> maybe in Canada.
>
> Today (Wednesday,) the last day of the conference I noticed on the
> show floor, someone behind an espresso machine making drinks. Against
> my better judgment I ordered a latte. Maybe it was because the
> barrista was wasn't making any of the tell-tale noises typical PBTCs
> make when they scald milk and make espresso shots too short or long.
>
> My first sip of my drink pretty much blew my mind. This latte was
> possibly the best tasting latte I have ever had. There was no fancy
> latte art like I got at Murky's and it was hotter than I normally
> liked but it was still great. The barrista told me the espresso was a
> brand called Musetti that his father's company was the sole importer
> of from Italy. Frank, the barrista, actually went to Italy to train
> and be certified as a barrista. (Italy has an official certification
> program.) His company is called Black Tie Espressohttp://blacktieespresso.com
> and they cater in the Boston area. He gave me his card in case I
> wanted to order some of his espresso.
>
> Randy Rostie

I did Murcky Arlington last March. I wish we had a place like that in
Jacksonville, FL.
The Arlington place can be hard to get to if you do not take a cab.



 
Date: 11 Jul 2007 06:04:28
From: dcrehr
Subject: Re: shocking coffee experience in Boston
I lived in Boston for about 6 years... 25 years ago.

At the time, one of our favorite fine restaurants was the Cafe Plaza
at the Copley Plaza Hotel. Dunno if it is still there.

I was always impressed by the wonderful after-dinner coffee. A
memorable, winey flavor that I longed for every time I went.

I asked and was told the coffee was provided by the local Victor
Coffee Company. (a web search reveals a page for S&D Coffee of
Concord, NC which now owns Victor and states that Victor is the oldest
continuously-operating coffee roaster in the country -- dunno if that
is true).

The Victor people told me the Cafe Plaza blend was special for the
restaurant, but said it was close to their Linconshire blend. I
bought a case of nitro packs (home roasting would not occur to me for
another 20 years). It was good at home, but just not the same. Tsk.

Another web search reveals that the Copley is now owned by Fairmont
and has two restaurants: the Oak Room and Oak Bar. I wonder which was
the "Cafe" and I wonder if the coffee there is still so good.

Bostonians, please report and get back to us.

DR