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Date: 02 Dec 2006 17:42:54
From: chardinej
Subject: steaming with a 4-hole nozzle
I have a Nuova Simonelli Oscar. It has a 4-hole steaming nozzle and
very powerful steam. After moving to this machine recently from a home
machine, I can't foam milk worth a damn. Reviews on the Oscar tend to
mention this but also mention that once you get the hang of it, it
works great. Trouble is they don't give any hints as to how to make it
work to get nice micro-foam. Can anyone provide any hints so that I can
save the world's supply of milk.

Thanks.

John
----------------------------------------
John Chardine
Sackville, NB, Canada





 
Date: 05 Dec 2006 19:11:22
From: Alex_chef2000
Subject: Re: steaming with a 4-hole nozzle

Hi there, well, I think it is more important to adjust your machine's
pressure to 1.3 bars to make the proper foam.

Any steam tip is designed for 1.3 bars, but almost any machine come
from factory at only 0.5 bars, so you may need to adjust first.

If you are not a "DIY" try better to contact a service man.

Regards from Mexico,



Alex.:



 
Date: 05 Dec 2006 10:18:15
From: Heat + Beans
Subject: Re: steaming with a 4-hole nozzle
With my previous Isomac Tea, I used Chris's "new" 2-hole tip. My wife
prefers 4 oz milk with her cappa. I like 3. I would measure these
amounts into separate 12 oz pitchers. Pull a shot and steam, and then
repeat. I own one more 12 oz pitcher and a 10 oz, and have lined up a
total of 4 when demand required. I liked this protocol because each
shot gets my determined amount of microfoam and a slight topping of
extra puff---a hard combo to reach when pouring separately out of a
single pitcher. No need to spoon. No need to leave pulled shots sitting
on the counter waiting for milk.

Question is what to do with all my overkill steaming power. Maybe with
a long enough hose I can clean my carpets.

tin


ramboorider@gmail.com wrote:
> This thread brings up a question - how do you guys deal with small
> quantities of milk?
> Any suggestions?
>
> -Ray



 
Date: 05 Dec 2006 08:27:52
From: ramboorider@gmail.com
Subject: Re: steaming with a 4-hole nozzle
This thread brings up a question - how do you guys deal with small
quantities of milk? With my Silvia with the one-hole tip, I do well
when I'm steaming 12oz of milk (in a 24 oz pitcher) for two drinks and
passably well MOST of the time with about 6 oz (in a 12 oz pitcher) for
one drink. But I also like machiatos and sometimes cappas with less
milk and I find the Silvia's steam overwhelms small amounts of milk. I
keep the pitcher in the freezer and even stick the milk in there for a
while to get it as cool as possible to start, but it'll still get up to
155 in a matter of seconds and it's tough to keep things calm enough to
surf the tip for long enough to get a good even microfoam. I see a
three hole tip available for Silvia and figure that would just make
matters worse, no?

Any suggestions?

-Ray



  
Date: 05 Dec 2006 18:04:27
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: steaming with a 4-hole nozzle
On 5 Dec 2006 08:27:52 -0800, "ramboorider@gmail.com"
<ramboorider@gmail.com > wrote:

>This thread brings up a question - how do you guys deal with small
>quantities of milk? With my Silvia with the one-hole tip, I do well
>when I'm steaming 12oz of milk (in a 24 oz pitcher) for two drinks and
>passably well MOST of the time with about 6 oz (in a 12 oz pitcher) for
>one drink. But I also like machiatos and sometimes cappas with less
>milk and I find the Silvia's steam overwhelms small amounts of milk. I
>keep the pitcher in the freezer and even stick the milk in there for a
>while to get it as cool as possible to start, but it'll still get up to
>155 in a matter of seconds and it's tough to keep things calm enough to
>surf the tip for long enough to get a good even microfoam. I see a
>three hole tip available for Silvia and figure that would just make
>matters worse, no?
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>-Ray

You've probably already thought of this, but, with small amounts of
milk, I always tip the pitcher to increase the depth.

shall


 
Date: 05 Dec 2006 08:09:45
From: Heat + Beans
Subject: Re: steaming with a 4-hole nozzle
I have a new La Spaziale with an improved and controllable 4-hole tip.
At my close-to-flat learning curve, I'm looking at November ' 09
before I get the micro- back into my foam and off my glasses. I'm
resolved to get it right. OTOH, I also wimped out and ordered an
adaptor and 2-hole nozzle.
tin


chardinej wrote:
> I have a Nuova Simonelli Oscar. It has a 4-hole steaming nozzle and
> very powerful steam. After moving to this machine recently from a home
> machine, I can't foam milk worth a damn. Reviews on the Oscar tend to
> mention this but also mention that once you get the hang of it, it
> works great. Trouble is they don't give any hints as to how to make it
> work to get nice micro-foam. Can anyone provide any hints so that I can
> save the world's supply of milk.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John
> ----------------------------------------
> John Chardine
> Sackville, NB, Canada



 
Date: 04 Dec 2006 20:24:08
From:
Subject: Re: steaming with a 4-hole nozzle
Yep. I know how you feel having recently moved from a Gaggia to the
Oscar myself.

Let us know how you go. Rob



 
Date: 04 Dec 2006 19:35:02
From: chardinej
Subject: Re: steaming with a 4-hole nozzle
Many thanks. I'll try this. I have noticed the speed of steaming on
this machine which caught me by surprise the first time I used it.

John

rob_yg@hotmail.com wrote:
> The Oscar 4-hole tip is fine. Here's what I do:
> 1. Put the milk in your freezer 10 -15 minutes before steaming. This
> will give you a few more seconds to work with;
> 2. Point the steam wand straight down the milk jug with the holes just
> under the surface. Also keep the tip near the centre of the milk
> surface;
> 3. Turn on full steam and froth the milk as usual. No need to tilt the
> milk jug much. The 4 holes are already angled properly; and
> 4. Be careful, the whole process only takes seconds.
>
> Hope this helps. Rob



 
Date: 04 Dec 2006 19:13:32
From:
Subject: Re: steaming with a 4-hole nozzle
The Oscar 4-hole tip is fine. Here's what I do:
1. Put the milk in your freezer 10 -15 minutes before steaming. This
will give you a few more seconds to work with;
2. Point the steam wand straight down the milk jug with the holes just
under the surface. Also keep the tip near the centre of the milk
surface;
3. Turn on full steam and froth the milk as usual. No need to tilt the
milk jug much. The 4 holes are already angled properly; and
4. Be careful, the whole process only takes seconds.

Hope this helps. Rob



  
Date: 06 Dec 2006 00:14:15
From: Alan
Subject: Re: steaming with a 4-hole nozzle

<rob_yg@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1165288412.703374.111680@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The Oscar 4-hole tip is fine. Here's what I do:
> 1. Put the milk in your freezer 10 -15 minutes before steaming. This
> will give you a few more seconds to work with;
> 2. Point the steam wand straight down the milk jug with the holes just
> under the surface. Also keep the tip near the centre of the milk
> surface;
> 3. Turn on full steam and froth the milk as usual.

NOTE: ---- >>>Follow steps 2 and 3 only if you wish to ensure entry of milk
into wand. To avoid milk inside the wand, turn your steam on just a wee bit
BEFORE you introduce the wand into milk; likewise, after full steam
frothing, turn it down to just a bit before exiting the milk.

>No need to tilt the
> milk jug much. The 4 holes are already angled properly; and
> 4. Be careful, the whole process only takes seconds.
>
> Hope this helps. Rob
>




 
Date: 02 Dec 2006 18:00:05
From:
Subject: Re: steaming with a 4-hole nozzle
Buy a slower steam nozzle.. I just went to a two hole (from four) on
my Faema compact.. Much easier to manage!


chardinej wrote:
> I have a Nuova Simonelli Oscar. It has a 4-hole steaming nozzle and
> very powerful steam. After moving to this machine recently from a home
> machine, I can't foam milk worth a damn. Reviews on the Oscar tend to
> mention this but also mention that once you get the hang of it, it
> works great. Trouble is they don't give any hints as to how to make it
> work to get nice micro-foam. Can anyone provide any hints so that I can
> save the world's supply of milk.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John
> ----------------------------------------
> John Chardine
> Sackville, NB, Canada