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Date: 24 Feb 2007 18:43:48
From: phreaddy
Subject: triples ...
I've been messing around with a bottomless PF and a triple basket on
my Silvia/Rocky combination. So far, I prefer the results of the
original double.
What are the variations of going from the standard double shot to a
triple?
Assuming I use 21 grams of coffee instead of 14, does the timing
change from the traditional 15-25 seconds, or do I shoot for the same
times? If so, does the grind likely need tweaking? And should I be
brewing 50% more espresso/ristretto in that time?





 
Date: 25 Feb 2007 14:07:07
From: Jasonian
Subject: Re: triples ...
RARELY, if ever, do I prefer a triple to a double basket.

The timing is the same, and the dose is higher, which means that the
grind size had to increase, which means that the extraction rate will
change.

It ends up not being as nice at all, unless you just really like
ristretti, or you're dosing low into the basket for a specific flavor
profile (like intelligentsia).

The one time I've opted for the triple over a double was for a decaf
blend that I discovered works just as well in a double after it's had
some time to rest (two weeks, if you can believe that).

Usually, I avoid ristretti. I personally view them as a bit of a
crutch, as it's easier to get a consistently good shot from that style
than from a normale... of course, there are some people who just
prefer the under-extracted flavor profile and heavy syrupy body
offered by a ristretto.

All that having been said, I prefer the double.




 
Date: 25 Feb 2007 04:56:12
From: ramboorider@gmail.com
Subject: Re: triples ...
On Feb 24, 9:43 pm, "phreaddy" <phrea...@gmail.com > wrote:
> I've been messing around with a bottomless PF and a triple basket on
> my Silvia/Rocky combination. So far, I prefer the results of the
> original double.
> What are the variations of going from the standard double shot to a
> triple?
> Assuming I use 21 grams of coffee instead of 14, does the timing
> change from the traditional 15-25 seconds, or do I shoot for the same
> times? If so, does the grind likely need tweaking? And should I be
> brewing 50% more espresso/ristretto in that time?

I can't quote chapter and verse, but when I first got a bottomless for
my Silvia, I tried using the triple basket as well. Total mess. Then I
started using the double with the bottomless and got MUCH better
results. I think it may be harder to properly dose and distribute that
much coffee and really get it even. After getting pretty consistently
good results with the double, I've since tried the triple and I don't
suck with it anymore, but I don't do as well as with the double and I
don't see any benefit to it particularly. Yeah, you can get a full 2
oz ristretto insteado of 1.5, but when I pull a really tasty
ristretto, those extra couple of sips don't matter - it's all about
the taste and the lingering heavenly aftertaste, which I'm more likely
to nail with a double than a triple.

-Ray