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Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:40:51
From: CoffeeKid
Subject: w1r3d1 at Yahoo & TerryZ one in the same (was Re: CG Editor's Choice)
Well, it looks like TerryZ's at it again.

Someone using w1r3d1@yahoo.com posted an attempt to discredit the
Editor's Choice Awards on CoffeeGeek, even slanderously accusing me of
"selling" the placements.

Then TerryZ jumped in on another thread, posting his "yeah, you're on
to something" rebuttal.

Turns out, thanks to Google's good cataloguing of posting information,
they're one in the same, or at the very least, posting from the same
source:

Our anonymous Yahoo friend:

Path:
g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: w1r...@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: alt.coffee
Subject: CG Editors Choice
Date: 20 Dec 2006 11:47:12 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
<snip >
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O;
en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com;
posting-host=208.64.241.59;
posting-account=qFg0sA0AAADfq4ZRkHV8G06LLWMjYnB8

Good friend TerryZ:

Path:
g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: ter...@espressoparts.com
Newsgroups: alt.coffee
Subject: Re: Coffeegeek Editor's choice budget grinder Solis Virtuoso
Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:15:36 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
<snip >
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O;
en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: 73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com;
posting-host=208.64.241.59;
posting-account=tZb1-w0AAADiHd3zFdTvAUQlhWA7LxQg

Check the injection info for both posts.

Terry's been bitter for quite some time, and especially so since he was
banned from CG back in April for, amongst other reasons, lying and
subterfuge; since then, he's taken lots of opportunities, all over the
internets and in various forums to show his spite towards me. now the
records seem to show more of it here on alt.coffee. It appears doing
the classic "post with several identities" thing to play people.

I'm hoping that, whenever TerryZ references anything I say or do
online, people realise it's backed by a lot of spite and malice.

Terry, sometimes, *not* being a... whatever, can be a good thing. You
should think about trying it sometime.

k





 
Date: 21 Dec 2006 09:12:40
From: JoeIsuzu
Subject: Re: w1r3d1 at Yahoo & TerryZ one in the same (was Re: CG Editor's Choice)
daveb wrote:

> Hey k,
>
> why not just IGNORE him??
>
> your responses (headers, tracert, defensiveness) only inflame the
> problem.

What, you want to change the entire Usenet? What would it be without
childish personal vendettas, recriminations, and flame wars?

Jack



 
Date: 20 Dec 2006 16:48:48
From: daveb
Subject: Re: w1r3d1 at Yahoo & TerryZ one in the same (was Re: CG Editor's Choice)
Hey k,

why not just IGNORE him??

your responses (headers, tracert, defensiveness) only inflame the
problem.



  
Date: 21 Dec 2006 15:39:33
From: Steve
Subject: Re: w1r3d1 at Yahoo & TerryZ one in the same (was Re: CG Editor's Choice)
On 20 Dec 2006 16:48:48 -0800, "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote:

>why not just IGNORE him??

Hasn't worked on you.


   
Date: 21 Dec 2006 08:55:05
From: GeeDubb
Subject: Re: w1r3d1 at Yahoo & TerryZ one in the same (was Re: CG Editor's Choice)

"Steve" <not@use.net > wrote in message
news:elalo2lpd7r5h9hh7v85jjuvbfsvv3hpmr@4ax.com...
> On 20 Dec 2006 16:48:48 -0800, "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>why not just IGNORE him??
>
> Hasn't worked on you.

not when people like you keep responding and quoting him......



    
Date: 21 Dec 2006 16:02:22
From: Steve
Subject: Re: w1r3d1 at Yahoo & TerryZ one in the same (was Re: CG Editor's Choice)
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:55:05 -0700, "GeeDubb" <geedubb@qwest.net >
wrote:

>not when people like you keep responding and quoting him......

Point taken.


 
Date: 20 Dec 2006 16:00:07
From: bernie
Subject: Re: w1r3d1 at Yahoo & TerryZ one in the same (was Re: CG Editor's
CoffeeKid wrote:

> Well, it looks like TerryZ's at it again.
>

dang. To quote Dustin Hoffman's character in "Rainman", uh-oh. Uhhhh
Ohhhh.
Bernie


 
Date: 20 Dec 2006 14:39:07
From:
Subject: Re: w1r3d1 at Yahoo & TerryZ one in the same (was Re: CG Editor's Choice)

w1r3d1@yahoo.com wrote:
> CoffeeKid wrote:
> > Well, it looks like TerryZ's at it again.
> >
> > Someone using w1r3d1@yahoo.com posted an attempt to discredit the
> > Editor's Choice Awards on CoffeeGeek, even slanderously accusing me of
> > "selling" the placements.
> >
> > Then TerryZ jumped in on another thread, posting his "yeah, you're on
> > to something" rebuttal.
> >
> > Turns out, thanks to Google's good cataloguing of posting information,
> > they're one in the same, or at the very least, posting from the same
> > source:
> >
> > Our anonymous Yahoo friend:
> >
> > Path:
> > g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> > From: w1r...@yahoo.com
> > Newsgroups: alt.coffee
> > Subject: CG Editors Choice
> > Date: 20 Dec 2006 11:47:12 -0800
> > Organization: http://groups.google.com
> > <snip>
> > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O;
> > en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> > Injection-Info: f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com;
> > posting-host=208.64.241.59;
> > posting-account=qFg0sA0AAADfq4ZRkHV8G06LLWMjYnB8
> >
> > Good friend TerryZ:
> >
> > Path:
> > g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> > From: ter...@espressoparts.com
> > Newsgroups: alt.coffee
> > Subject: Re: Coffeegeek Editor's choice budget grinder Solis Virtuoso
> > Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:15:36 -0800
> > Organization: http://groups.google.com
> > <snip>
> > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O;
> > en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> > Injection-Info: 73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com;
> > posting-host=208.64.241.59;
> > posting-account=tZb1-w0AAADiHd3zFdTvAUQlhWA7LxQg
> >
> > Check the injection info for both posts.
> >
> > Terry's been bitter for quite some time, and especially so since he was
> > banned from CG back in April for, amongst other reasons, lying and
> > subterfuge; since then, he's taken lots of opportunities, all over the
> > internets and in various forums to show his spite towards me. now the
> > records seem to show more of it here on alt.coffee. It appears doing
> > the classic "post with several identities" thing to play people.
> >
> > I'm hoping that, whenever TerryZ references anything I say or do
> > online, people realise it's backed by a lot of spite and malice.
> >
> > Terry, sometimes, *not* being a... whatever, can be a good thing. You
> > should think about trying it sometime.
> >
> > k
>
> Hey k,
>
> Spite and Malice.......? Hmmmmm. sounds a bit paranoid to me.
>
> Seems you are taking this very personal......
>
> My w1r3d1 account is what is loaded on this machine. Sorry, no
> conspiracy and unfortunatley my sig was not attached to this account. I
> will remedy that later. In the meantime it seems that my simple
> question has raised a bit of concern.
>
> Since yes, you banned me from CG and I have no other avenue to repond
> to these questions in your forums, I have chosen usenet via ( you
> little detective ) Google.
>
> Folks it is no secret that k simply doesn't mean I can't ask the
> hard questions. Seriously thats all I have done.
>
> The question again k......
>
> Do you think your paid clients should be part of your editors choice
> awards?
>
> Terry Z ( individually )

k,

please be careful.....

k said

"Terry's been bitter for quite some time, and especially so since he
was
banned from CG back in April for, amongst other reasons, lying and
subterfuge; since then, he's taken lots of opportunities, all over the
internets and in various forums to show his spite towards me. now the
records seem to show more of it here on alt.coffee. It appears doing
the classic "post with several identities" thing to play people."

Careful consideration was not taken in this statement, and is far more
slandrous than anything you think I may have posted. Infact, I have
only agreed with a few posts and made fun of you "banning" me from
Coffeegeek. Be nice now, as I'm only asking questions in a place where
I can ask the questions. This is usenet and the question is on topic.

I'm hoping that when I make comments about things that concern me you
don't jump in and try to defend your self so quickly, as my contention
is that it does not seem right that your clients recieve best of
awards, that's all.

Do k and Terry like each other? No, but it goes back to allot of
things and non of that is important to anyone but k and Terry.

k, sometimes jumping in to defend yourself looks worse than just
ignoring me. I think it is important that you use common sense and
practice patience before making such slanderous statements in a public
forum.

Sorry to have created such concern on your part.



  
Date: 21 Dec 2006 15:38:53
From: Steve
Subject: Re: w1r3d1 at Yahoo & TerryZ one in the same (was Re: CG Editor's Choice)
On 20 Dec 2006 14:39:07 -0800, w1r3d1@yahoo.com wrote:

>I think it is important that you use common sense and
>practice patience before making such slanderous statements in a public
>forum.

You need both a better attorney and a better trolling style.
It's not slander.
It's a poor troll.


 
Date: 20 Dec 2006 14:01:54
From:
Subject: Re: w1r3d1 at Yahoo & TerryZ one in the same (was Re: CG Editor's Choice)

CoffeeKid wrote:
> Well, it looks like TerryZ's at it again.
>
> Someone using w1r3d1@yahoo.com posted an attempt to discredit the
> Editor's Choice Awards on CoffeeGeek, even slanderously accusing me of
> "selling" the placements.
>
> Then TerryZ jumped in on another thread, posting his "yeah, you're on
> to something" rebuttal.
>
> Turns out, thanks to Google's good cataloguing of posting information,
> they're one in the same, or at the very least, posting from the same
> source:
>
> Our anonymous Yahoo friend:
>
> Path:
> g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> From: w1r...@yahoo.com
> Newsgroups: alt.coffee
> Subject: CG Editors Choice
> Date: 20 Dec 2006 11:47:12 -0800
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> <snip>
> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O;
> en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> Injection-Info: f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com;
> posting-host=208.64.241.59;
> posting-account=qFg0sA0AAADfq4ZRkHV8G06LLWMjYnB8
>
> Good friend TerryZ:
>
> Path:
> g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> From: ter...@espressoparts.com
> Newsgroups: alt.coffee
> Subject: Re: Coffeegeek Editor's choice budget grinder Solis Virtuoso
> Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:15:36 -0800
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> <snip>
> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O;
> en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> Injection-Info: 73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com;
> posting-host=208.64.241.59;
> posting-account=tZb1-w0AAADiHd3zFdTvAUQlhWA7LxQg
>
> Check the injection info for both posts.
>
> Terry's been bitter for quite some time, and especially so since he was
> banned from CG back in April for, amongst other reasons, lying and
> subterfuge; since then, he's taken lots of opportunities, all over the
> internets and in various forums to show his spite towards me. now the
> records seem to show more of it here on alt.coffee. It appears doing
> the classic "post with several identities" thing to play people.
>
> I'm hoping that, whenever TerryZ references anything I say or do
> online, people realise it's backed by a lot of spite and malice.
>
> Terry, sometimes, *not* being a... whatever, can be a good thing. You
> should think about trying it sometime.
>
> k

Hey k,

Spite and Malice.......? Hmmmmm. sounds a bit paranoid to me.

Seems you are taking this very personal......

My w1r3d1 account is what is loaded on this machine. Sorry, no
conspiracy and unfortunatley my sig was not attached to this account. I
will remedy that later. In the meantime it seems that my simple
question has raised a bit of concern.

Since yes, you banned me from CG and I have no other avenue to repond
to these questions in your forums, I have chosen usenet via ( you
little detective ) Google.

Folks it is no secret that k simply doesn't mean I can't ask the
hard questions. Seriously thats all I have done.

The question again k......

Do you think your paid clients should be part of your editors choice
awards?

Terry Z ( individually )