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Date: 07 Oct 2006 14:33:30
From: Jefe
Subject: watery espresso
I just took my espresso machine on a long trip and I think its
homesick. In my new location, with the same grinder, beans, extraction
time, etc. etc., the pour does not have the thickness it used to. It
doesn't blond, but its thin (watery). The only thing different is the
water. What happened to that thick, "warm honey" consistency I used to
get??





 
Date: 13 Oct 2006 09:42:42
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: watery espresso
"Jefe" <jefralston@gmail.com > wrote:

>I just took my espresso machine on a long trip and I think its
>homesick. In my new location, with the same grinder, beans, extraction
>time, etc. etc., the pour does not have the thickness it used to. It
>doesn't blond, but its thin (watery). The only thing different is the
>water. What happened to that thick, "warm honey" consistency I used to
>get??
>

adjust the grind..... That's why grinders are adjustable.
If that doesn't work, then it's the beans.

Randy "adjust the grind" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




 
Date: 08 Oct 2006 08:13:34
From: Danny
Subject: Re: watery espresso
Jefe wrote:
> I just took my espresso machine on a long trip and I think its
> homesick. In my new location, with the same grinder, beans, extraction
> time, etc. etc., the pour does not have the thickness it used to. It
> doesn't blond, but its thin (watery). The only thing different is the
> water. What happened to that thick, "warm honey" consistency I used to
> get??
>

Adjust the grind. Different water will also change the taste at
least, maybe hardness can change the apparent viscosity? Different
altitude (if the case) will affect espresso machine performance.

--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)



  
Date: 13 Oct 2006 07:51:18
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: watery espresso
If my roast gets a little darker than usual, I have this same situation.

> Jefe wrote:
>> I just took my espresso machine on a long trip and I think its
>> homesick. In my new location, with the same grinder, beans, extraction
>> time, etc. etc., the pour does not have the thickness it used to. It
>> doesn't blond, but its thin (watery). The only thing different is the
>> water. What happened to that thick, "warm honey" consistency I used to
>> get??




 
Date: 07 Oct 2006 17:20:26
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: watery espresso
Jefe wrote:
> I SAY AGAIN...I SAY AGAIN...same grinder, same grind setting, same
> amount, same extraction time. One thing I didn't mention: I turned up
> the boiler pressure a little, the water may be a little hotter, could
> that make it watery?? (I haven't taken the temperature of the water,
> but I did turn it up (maybe I turned it down), either way, I don't
> think that would make it watery...

Don't know about "honey" extractions - reddish crema, blonding,
probably without ribbons and well before 30 seconds. A nice thick mouth
feel is what I'm getting. Lightly viscous, not like honey, but more
along multigrade 5-20 synthetic motor oil, only darker. I'd imagine
honey a function of the PF (mine's neither straight through), tiger
striping from the group head and pressure the pump delivers. . .
Discounting not scalding enough to prevent being gulped in one fell
swill for hot enough. All else being equal and nothing was banged
about, might seek an ideal temperature, and something convenient to
measure and dial that back in. One less variable when disqualifying
unexpected purchase.



 
Date: 07 Oct 2006 15:52:05
From: Jefe
Subject: Re: watery espresso

daveb wrote:
> did you take the GRINDER too?
>
I SAY AGAIN...I SAY AGAIN...same grinder, same grind setting, same
amount, same extraction time. One thing I didn't mention: I turned up
the boiler pressure a little, the water may be a little hotter, could
that make it watery?? (I haven't taken the temperature of the water,
but I did turn it up (maybe I turned it down), either way, I don't
think that would make it watery...



  
Date: 07 Oct 2006 19:12:52
From: Dan Bollinger
Subject: Re: watery espresso
> I SAY AGAIN...I SAY AGAIN...same grinder, same grind setting, same
> amount, same extraction time.

Well, then, that means only one thing, your espresso turned out the same it
always has!!!

LOL!



 
Date: 07 Oct 2006 14:37:13
From: daveb
Subject: Re: watery espresso
did you take the GRINDER too?

dave
Jefe wrote:
> I just took my espresso machine on a long trip and I think its
> homesick. In my new location, with the same grinder, beans, extraction
> time, etc. etc., the pour does not have the thickness it used to. It
> doesn't blond, but its thin (watery). The only thing different is the
> water. What happened to that thick, "warm honey" consistency I used to
> get??



 
Date: 07 Oct 2006 17:35:25
From: Dan Bollinger
Subject: Re: watery espresso
> What happened to that thick, "warm honey" consistency I used to
> get??

My guess is that your grinder setting got bumped and it is grinding coarser.
Dan