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Date: 07 Nov 2006 17:19:05
From: Art
Subject: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
was wondering which people find better and why... Peet's Coffee or
Starbucks. Personally, I prefer Peet's to Starbucks and find that its
hard to go back to Starbucks once you have Peet's. Of, course, the
best coffee is of course freshly brewed at home! Anyway, I have this
friendly voting thing going on mywaves. Check out this video about the
vote and also check out the Peet's and Starbucks channels that have
everybody else's video votes being broadcast (for the cell phone/web)
on mywaves (www.mywaves.com)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2882543689851047414&q=a+boy%2C+a+girl+and+a+caramel





 
Date: 14 Nov 2006 13:56:57
From: Kyle
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?

Art wrote:
> was wondering which people find better and why... Peet's Coffee or
> Starbucks. Personally, I prefer Peet's to Starbucks and find that its
> hard to go back to Starbucks once you have Peet's. Of, course, the
> best coffee is of course freshly brewed at home! Anyway, I have this
> friendly voting thing going on mywaves. Check out this video about the
> vote and also check out the Peet's and Starbucks channels that have
> everybody else's video votes being broadcast (for the cell phone/web)
> on mywaves (www.mywaves.com)

I prefer Peet's -- for beans as well as beverages. I've never
purchased a bad coffee at any Peet's store.



 
Date: 14 Nov 2006 10:13:14
From: Kyle
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
I prefer Peet's, for beans and in-store drinks. I've bought a bad
coffee at any Peet's store.



 
Date: 14 Nov 2006 00:01:10
From: Art
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
uncalled for rudeness must be a side effect of drinking gourmet coffee
everyday.


tjnamtiw wrote:
> That's like asking 'Which is better - Syphilis or Gonorea?'
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Art" <artjasmine01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162948745.028007.18520@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > was wondering which people find better and why... Peet's Coffee or
> > Starbucks. Personally, I prefer Peet's to Starbucks and find that its
> > hard to go back to Starbucks once you have Peet's. Of, course, the
> > best coffee is of course freshly brewed at home! Anyway, I have this
> > friendly voting thing going on mywaves. Check out this video about the
> > vote and also check out the Peet's and Starbucks channels that have
> > everybody else's video votes being broadcast (for the cell phone/web)
> > on mywaves (www.mywaves.com)
> >
> > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2882543689851047414&q=a+boy%2C+a+girl+and+a+caramel
> >



 
Date: 13 Nov 2006 13:23:05
From: tjnamtiw
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
That's like asking 'Which is better - Syphilis or Gonorea?'

Tom


"Art" <artjasmine01@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1162948745.028007.18520@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> was wondering which people find better and why... Peet's Coffee or
> Starbucks. Personally, I prefer Peet's to Starbucks and find that its
> hard to go back to Starbucks once you have Peet's. Of, course, the
> best coffee is of course freshly brewed at home! Anyway, I have this
> friendly voting thing going on mywaves. Check out this video about the
> vote and also check out the Peet's and Starbucks channels that have
> everybody else's video votes being broadcast (for the cell phone/web)
> on mywaves (www.mywaves.com)
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2882543689851047414&q=a+boy%2C+a+girl+and+a+caramel
>




  
Date: 13 Nov 2006 14:09:53
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:23:05 -0500, "tjnamtiw" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net > wrote:

>That's like asking 'Which is better - Syphilis or Gonorea?'

It looks like syphilis is easier to spell, anyway...

-- Larry


   
Date: 13 Nov 2006 22:34:44
From: Tom
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
;o)


"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org > wrote in message
news:2nghl25jq4a6edbjb5ags7a8u7rkef86pu@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:23:05 -0500, "tjnamtiw" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>>That's like asking 'Which is better - Syphilis or Gonorea?'
>
> It looks like syphilis is easier to spell, anyway...
>
> -- Larry




   
Date: 13 Nov 2006 22:34:03
From: Tom
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
It's an alternative spelling of gonorrhea. Is this what yours looks
like/???
http://www.blinn.edu/natscience/phillips/gonorea.html


"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org > wrote in message
news:2nghl25jq4a6edbjb5ags7a8u7rkef86pu@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:23:05 -0500, "tjnamtiw" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>>That's like asking 'Which is better - Syphilis or Gonorea?'
>
> It looks like syphilis is easier to spell, anyway...
>
> -- Larry




 
Date: 09 Nov 2006 09:22:25
From: John S.
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
Which is bettter? I guess that would depend on the taste of the
individual involved and the roasts being compared. It's difficult to
say this brand name is better than the other. I've had decent coffee
from both houses.

Art wrote:
> was wondering which people find better and why... Peet's Coffee or
> Starbucks. Personally, I prefer Peet's to Starbucks and find that its
> hard to go back to Starbucks once you have Peet's. Of, course, the
> best coffee is of course freshly brewed at home! Anyway, I have this
> friendly voting thing going on mywaves. Check out this video about the
> vote and also check out the Peet's and Starbucks channels that have
> everybody else's video votes being broadcast (for the cell phone/web)
> on mywaves (www.mywaves.com)
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2882543689851047414&q=a+boy%2C+a+girl+and+a+caramel



  
Date: 09 Nov 2006 17:56:54
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On 9 Nov 2006 09:22:25 -0800, "John S." <hjsjms@cs.com > wrote:

> I've had decent coffee
>from both houses.

Not sure what I had, but certain it was not coffee.


 
Date: 09 Nov 2006 08:38:03
From: myron
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
Don,

Your reply is a gem..
You are a gentleman (this is not news to anyone)
and you have may my day sweeter...

Ciao,
Myron

i840coffee@optonline.net wrote:
> Who is a better Dancer Gene Kelly or Fred Astrair?
>
> Starbucks' co-founder and original coffeeman Jerry Baldwin was tought
> how to roast by Al Peet, from Peet's (who was Starbucks original
> roast coffee supplier). Baldwin subsequently bought Peet's and held
> on to it when he sold Starbucks to Howard Shultz in 1987. Both are now
> public companies.
>
> Both businesses are children of Al Peet's dark roast philosophy.
> Both are icons of the first generation of specialty coffee in the US
> (whose trade association SCAA celebrates its silver anniversary in
> 2007). Both businesses buy sound coffee. Based on the volumes of
> beans that Strarbucks must buy today, to support its retail and
> wholesale businesses, they no longer have the luxury of buying small
> lots of the best beans. Peets, a smaller business, may be able to pick
> and choose among favored small lots, but they too are coming to the end
> of being able to sustain such buying habits. Starbucks has a boutique
> line called Black Apron which is an effort to buy and roast special
> items in small runs as they used to do every week thirty years ago.
>
> One of the things that made these businesses successful ones was the
> personal attention to coffee that the original operators put into their
> efforts. Starbucks was born as a bean driven business. They didn't
> offer beverage coffee. Petes was a bean and beverage business with
> urn-brewed coffee being the beverage of choice.
>
> Nothing can beat a well made home brewed beverage, and there are
> independent businesses which are pouring more of their soul into their
> product today than either of these businesses. It is the nature of big
> successful businesses to lose touch with some eliments of what made
> them successful in the first place. Randy G's and I->Ian's posts are
> fun reading, but the products produced by Starbucks and Peets are not
> coffee comparables to the examples in those posts, and are worth your
> consideration.
>
> -Donald Schoenholt



 
Date: 09 Nov 2006 04:35:08
From: Emily Davis
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
Peet's is a high-end Starbucks.

"Art" <artjasmine01@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1162948745.028007.18520@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> was wondering which people find better and why... Peet's Coffee or
> Starbucks. Personally, I prefer Peet's to Starbucks and find that its
> hard to go back to Starbucks once you have Peet's. Of, course, the
> best coffee is of course freshly brewed at home! Anyway, I have this
> friendly voting thing going on mywaves. Check out this video about the
> vote and also check out the Peet's and Starbucks channels that have
> everybody else's video votes being broadcast (for the cell phone/web)
> on mywaves (www.mywaves.com)
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2882543689851047414&q=a+boy%2C+a+girl+and+a+caramel
>




  
Date: 09 Nov 2006 06:01:54
From: Robert Hormon
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
Starbucks got my vote!

"Emily Davis" <scainnca@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:0ey4h.1558$6t.501@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> Peet's is a high-end Starbucks.
>
> "Art" <artjasmine01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162948745.028007.18520@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> was wondering which people find better and why... Peet's Coffee or
>> Starbucks. Personally, I prefer Peet's to Starbucks and find that its
>> hard to go back to Starbucks once you have Peet's. Of, course, the
>> best coffee is of course freshly brewed at home! Anyway, I have this
>> friendly voting thing going on mywaves. Check out this video about the
>> vote and also check out the Peet's and Starbucks channels that have
>> everybody else's video votes being broadcast (for the cell phone/web)
>> on mywaves (www.mywaves.com)
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2882543689851047414&q=a+boy%2C+a+girl+and+a+caramel
>>
>
>




   
Date: 09 Nov 2006 14:41:15
From: RoqueJa
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 06:01:54 -0500, "Robert Hormon" <. > wrote:

>Starbucks got my vote


Figures.




 
Date: 08 Nov 2006 18:33:49
From: Bill Patterson
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
David G. Imber wrote:
I've only been to Peet's once. I was on a business trip in
> Cambridge, Mass. <snip> I remember distinctly finding everything about the shop from
> the cleanliness and decor to the attitude of the service to be
> distinctly better than any Starbuck's I was familiar with. The coffee
> of the day was a Papua New Guinea that was actually excellent. I also
> recall thinking to myself that "this is what Starbuck's could be, if
> they tried a bit harder".

ISTR Peets was headquartered in the SF Bay area -- Oakland? I remember
having a conversation with someone at Peets in the mid-80's about
importing Indian coffees.

To me there really isn't any comparison between Peets and Starbucks;
Starbucks is a pastry and socializing shop with some strange teas and a
very nasty coffee -- now that I think of it, kind of the Howard
Johnson's of the naughty oughties. (A strange idea unless you know the
Howard Johnson's was the local gathering/socializing place for the
whole of Arizona State University in the 1970's).

In Los Angeles, Peets is more in competition with Coffee Bean & Tea
Leaf for the bean trade (with Seattle's Best -- a far better chain than
either, except that their varietal selection is too limited -- a
distant third) -- and everybody and his brother seems to have an
espresso machine. I think the latte has become the regional
drink-of-choice.

What's croggled me most in recent weeks is the series of reports that
Dunkin Donuts is ramping up to go into competition with Starbucks for
prepared coffees. I have a hard time imagining that (DD pulled out of
the Los Angeles ket entirely many years ago so it's not something
I'm likely to get to sample anyway).



  
Date: 09 Nov 2006 14:38:49
From: RoqueJa
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On 8 Nov 2006 18:33:49 -0800, "Bill Patterson" <WHPatterson@gmail.com >
wrote:

>ISTR Peets was headquartered in the SF Bay area -- Oakland? I remember
>having a conversation with someone at Peets in the mid-80's about
>importing Indian coffees.

The mother ship is in Berkeley: Walnut and Vine. One of the protosites
of the so-called gourmet ghetto.


  
Date: 09 Nov 2006 22:00:07
From: Paul Vojta
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
In article <1163039629.749427.266580@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
Bill Patterson <WHPatterson@gmail.com > wrote:
>ISTR Peets was headquartered in the SF Bay area -- Oakland? I remember
>having a conversation with someone at Peets in the mid-80's about
>importing Indian coffees.

Peet's original store was in Berkeley. Currently they are headquartered
in Emeryville. Both are just north of Oakland.

--Paul Vojta, vojta@math.berkeley.edu


 
Date: 08 Nov 2006 06:51:12
From: Art
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?

pltrgyst wrote:
> Then why not simply vote that way, or ignore the thread altogether, instead of
> mounting a personal attack on what might be a perfectly innocent person with a
> relatively simple question?
>
> -- Larry

Thank you. It does seem like even a relatively simple question can get
people flaming which was definitely not my intention. This whole thing
came about because I seem to find people in CA that are biased one way
(Peets) or another (Starbucks) and it was never quite clear to me why
that was the case. I am aware of the history between the two companies
but it does appear that there is more to this than that.

As for the rest of you, click on the link, dont click on the link -
whatever.



  
Date: 08 Nov 2006 19:21:52
From: David G. Imber
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On 8 Nov 2006 06:51:12 -0800, "Art" <artjasmine01@yahoo.com > wrote:


>Thank you. It does seem like even a relatively simple question can get
>people flaming which was definitely not my intention. This whole thing
>came about because I seem to find people in CA that are biased one way
>(Peets) or another (Starbucks) and it was never quite clear to me why
>that was the case. I am aware of the history between the two companies
>but it does appear that there is more to this than that.

I've only been to Peet's once. I was on a business trip in
Cambridge, Mass. I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that this was
supposed to be the first Peet's store in the Boston area. The night
before I was desperate for good coffee and all I'd been able to find
was a Starbuck's (which I find mostly awful except as a place to meet
people for a chat).

I remember distinctly finding everything about the shop from
the cleanliness and decor to the attitude of the service to be
distinctly better than any Starbuck's I was familiar with. The coffee
of the day was a Papua New Guinea that was actually excellent. I also
recall thinking to myself that "this is what Starbuck's could be, if
they tried a bit harder".

Not very scientific or conclusive, but there you are. I've
never tried their packaged coffee, and I don't think I've ever been to
another Peet's since.

DGI



  
Date: 08 Nov 2006 17:12:08
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On 8 Nov 2006 06:51:12 -0800, "Art" <artjasmine01@yahoo.com > wrote:

>This whole thing
>came about because I seem to find people in CA that are biased one way
>(Peets) or another (Starbucks) and it was never quite clear to me why
>that was the case

CA is a bad choice for a weather vane.
It's the Granola State : full of Fruits, Nuts and Flakes

The vast majority of people are sheep. They have no sense of identity
and slavishly follow a crowd.

The need to be seen with a*$ cup, the smallest cell phone, the
bluetooth ear piece and last, but certainly most offensive, tattoos
are all indications of people seeking an identity in an increasingly
anonymous world.


   
Date: 09 Nov 2006 19:37:15
From: Patricia
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?

"I- >Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:tg34l2pmjh789dds1rc1mf35midb0ehv5b@4ax.com...
> On 8 Nov 2006 06:51:12 -0800, "Art" <artjasmine01@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
<snip >

> CA is a bad choice for a weather vane.
> It's the Granola State : full of Fruits, Nuts and Flakes
>
> The vast majority of people are sheep. They have no sense of identity
> and slavishly follow a crowd.
>
> The need to be seen with a*$ cup, the smallest cell phone, the
> bluetooth ear piece and last, but certainly most offensive, tattoos
> are all indications of people seeking an identity in an increasingly
> anonymous world.


Boy, that's awfully rude. Can't we be a little bit friendlier today? As my
mother always said, "If you've got nothing nice to say ..."




    
Date: 09 Nov 2006 11:18:58
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:37:15 +0800, "Patricia"
<gopuppygorubbish@rubbishgmail.com > wrote:

>> The vast majority of people are sheep. They have no sense of identity
>> and slavishly follow a crowd.
>>
>> The need to be seen with a*$ cup, the smallest cell phone, the
>> bluetooth ear piece and last, but certainly most offensive, tattoos
>> are all indications of people seeking an identity in an increasingly
>> anonymous world.
>
>Boy, that's awfully rude....

I would say that's awfully accurate.

-- Larry


 
Date: 08 Nov 2006 05:59:33
From:
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
Who is a better Dancer Gene Kelly or Fred Astrair?

Starbucks' co-founder and original coffeeman Jerry Baldwin was tought
how to roast by Al Peet, from Peet's (who was Starbucks original
roast coffee supplier). Baldwin subsequently bought Peet's and held
on to it when he sold Starbucks to Howard Shultz in 1987. Both are now
public companies.

Both businesses are children of Al Peet's dark roast philosophy.
Both are icons of the first generation of specialty coffee in the US
(whose trade association SCAA celebrates its silver anniversary in
2007). Both businesses buy sound coffee. Based on the volumes of
beans that Strarbucks must buy today, to support its retail and
wholesale businesses, they no longer have the luxury of buying small
lots of the best beans. Peets, a smaller business, may be able to pick
and choose among favored small lots, but they too are coming to the end
of being able to sustain such buying habits. Starbucks has a boutique
line called Black Apron which is an effort to buy and roast special
items in small runs as they used to do every week thirty years ago.

One of the things that made these businesses successful ones was the
personal attention to coffee that the original operators put into their
efforts. Starbucks was born as a bean driven business. They didn't
offer beverage coffee. Petes was a bean and beverage business with
urn-brewed coffee being the beverage of choice.

Nothing can beat a well made home brewed beverage, and there are
independent businesses which are pouring more of their soul into their
product today than either of these businesses. It is the nature of big
successful businesses to lose touch with some eliments of what made
them successful in the first place. Randy G's and I- >Ian's posts are
fun reading, but the products produced by Starbucks and Peets are not
coffee comparables to the examples in those posts, and are worth your
consideration.

-Donald Schoenholt



  
Date: 09 Nov 2006 15:11:49
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On 8 Nov 2006 05:59:33 -0800, i840coffee@optonline.net wrote:

>Who is a better Dancer Gene Kelly or Fred Astrair?

Almost all dancers say Kelly, who was a much more athletic dancer and a more
productive and longer career.

-- Larry



   
Date: 09 Nov 2006 14:44:51
From: RoqueJa
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:11:49 -0500, pltrgyst
<pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org > wrote:

>On 8 Nov 2006 05:59:33 -0800, i840coffee@optonline.net wrote:
>
>>Who is a better Dancer Gene Kelly or Fred Astrair?
>
>Almost all dancers say Kelly, who was a much more athletic dancer and a more
>productive and longer career.
>
>-- Larry

And let's not forget: Everything Fred Astaire did, Ginger Rogers did
backwards in high heels.





    
Date: 09 Nov 2006 18:06:02
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:44:51 -0800, RoqueJa <no-email.com@ > wrote:

>>>Who is a better Dancer Gene Kelly or Fred Astrair?
>>
>>Almost all dancers say Kelly, who was a much more athletic dancer and a more
>>productive and longer career.
>
>And let's not forget: Everything Fred Astaire did, Ginger Rogers did
>backwards in high heels.

Yep. And let's not forget the attribution: thank you, Ann Richards!

-- Larry



     
Date: 09 Nov 2006 16:44:23
From: RoqueJa
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:06:02 -0500, pltrgyst
<pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org > wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:44:51 -0800, RoqueJa <no-email.com@> wrote:
>
>>>>Who is a better Dancer Gene Kelly or Fred Astrair?
>>>
>>>Almost all dancers say Kelly, who was a much more athletic dancer and a more
>>>productive and longer career.
>>
>>And let's not forget: Everything Fred Astaire did, Ginger Rogers did
>>backwards in high heels.
>
>Yep. And let's not forget the attribution: thank you, Ann Richards!
>
>-- Larry

who apparently "borrowed" it (also without attribution, mea culpa)
from Bob Thaves (Adventures of Frank and Ernest).




      
Date: 09 Nov 2006 23:20:18
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:44:23 -0800, RoqueJa <no-email.com@ > wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:06:02 -0500, pltrgyst
><pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:44:51 -0800, RoqueJa <no-email.com@> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Who is a better Dancer Gene Kelly or Fred Astrair?
>>>>
>>>>Almost all dancers say Kelly, who was a much more athletic dancer and a more
>>>>productive and longer career.
>>>
>>>And let's not forget: Everything Fred Astaire did, Ginger Rogers did
>>>backwards in high heels.
>>
>>Yep. And let's not forget the attribution: thank you, Ann Richards!
>>
>>-- Larry
>
>who apparently "borrowed" it (also without attribution, mea culpa)
>from Bob Thaves (Adventures of Frank and Ernest).

Really? I've never heard that. Do you have a cite or link?

Tnx -- Larry



       
Date: 10 Nov 2006 05:57:58
From: RoqueJa
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:20:18 -0500, pltrgyst
<pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org > wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:44:23 -0800, RoqueJa <no-email.com@> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:06:02 -0500, pltrgyst
>><pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:44:51 -0800, RoqueJa <no-email.com@> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>Who is a better Dancer Gene Kelly or Fred Astrair?
>>>>>
>>>>>Almost all dancers say Kelly, who was a much more athletic dancer and a more
>>>>>productive and longer career.
>>>>
>>>>And let's not forget: Everything Fred Astaire did, Ginger Rogers did
>>>>backwards in high heels.
>>>
>>>Yep. And let's not forget the attribution: thank you, Ann Richards!
>>>
>>>-- Larry
>>
>>who apparently "borrowed" it (also without attribution, mea culpa)
>>from Bob Thaves (Adventures of Frank and Ernest).
>
>Really? I've never heard that. Do you have a cite or link?
>
>Tnx -- Larry


Published in 1982, 6 years before Ann Richards used it as keynote
speaker at the Democratic National Convention. Sometimes attributed to
Ginger herself, also to some former Ambassador to Finland or some
such..

See:
http://www.reelclassics.com/Actresses/Ginger/images9/ginger_frankernesttoon.jpg
and wikipedia has details.






        
Date: 10 Nov 2006 11:07:45
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 05:57:58 -0800, RoqueJa <no-email.com@ > wrote:

>Published in 1982, 6 years before Ann Richards used it as keynote
>speaker at the Democratic National Convention. Sometimes attributed to
>Ginger herself, also to some former Ambassador to Finland or some
>such..
>
>See:
>http://www.reelclassics.com/Actresses/Ginger/images9/ginger_frankernesttoon.jpg
>and wikipedia has details.

Tnx much -- Larry


 
Date: 08 Nov 2006 06:35:18
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On 7 Nov 2006 17:19:05 -0800, "Art" <artjasmine01@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Peet's or
> Starbucks

Depends on the entré :

If I'm fricaséeing gerbil, definitely Peet's

OTOH, if it's flambéd rat, Starbucks

Sautéed, either will do.


  
Date: 08 Nov 2006 19:45:27
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
Whichever has the cleaner bathroom.

C




 
Date: 07 Nov 2006 22:16:43
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
Art,

Do you know anything about coffee? Anything at all? Any information or
knowledge that you can put to use to make a difference in what you
drink? You may as well go over to the gourmet food group and ask which
is better- Burger King of McDonalds.

The overwhelming vote here would be-
C: Don't care.

I won't use the link, but would guess that there is some sort of
spam/link/profit thing going on with this, but once again, I vote C on
that as well.

Randy "is there a 'D: Go away' choice?" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com



"Art" <artjasmine01@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>was wondering which people find better and why... Peet's Coffee or
>Starbucks. Personally, I prefer Peet's to Starbucks and find that its
>hard to go back to Starbucks once you have Peet's. Of, course, the
>best coffee is of course freshly brewed at home! Anyway, I have this
>friendly voting thing going on mywaves. Check out this video about the
>vote and also check out the Peet's and Starbucks channels that have
>everybody else's video votes being broadcast (for the cell phone/web)
>on mywaves (www.mywaves.com)
>
>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2882543689851047414&q=a+boy%2C+a+girl+and+a+caramel


  
Date: 09 Nov 2006 14:35:46
From: RoqueJa
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?

There was a time when any new poster who didn't worship at the shrine
of St Randell would get trashed by him immediately. He has backed off
for a while, but it seems he's back at it. It's so important for RG's
ego that he feel superior to the ignorant masses he just can't resist.

Sick man. Best ignored.


By the way, to answer your question: Peets by a long shot in my book.
But, then again, you can try them both yourself fairly easily and make
a decision based on your taste.


--

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:16:43 -0800, Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com >
wrote:

>Art,
>
>Do you know anything about coffee? Anything at all? Any information or
>knowledge that you can put to use to make a difference in what you
>drink? You may as well go over to the gourmet food group and ask which
>is better- Burger King of McDonalds.
>
>The overwhelming vote here would be-
> C: Don't care.
>
>I won't use the link, but would guess that there is some sort of
>spam/link/profit thing going on with this, but once again, I vote C on
>that as well.
>
> Randy "is there a 'D: Go away' choice?" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>
>
>"Art" <artjasmine01@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>was wondering which people find better and why... Peet's Coffee or
>>Starbucks. Personally, I prefer Peet's to Starbucks and find that its
>>hard to go back to Starbucks once you have Peet's. Of, course, the
>>best coffee is of course freshly brewed at home! Anyway, I have this
>>friendly voting thing going on mywaves. Check out this video about the
>>vote and also check out the Peet's and Starbucks channels that have
>>everybody else's video votes being broadcast (for the cell phone/web)
>>on mywaves (www.mywaves.com)
>>
>>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2882543689851047414&q=a+boy%2C+a+girl+and+a+caramel



  
Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:08:00
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:16:43 -0800, Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote:

>Do you know anything about coffee? Anything at all? Any information or
>knowledge that you can put to use to make a difference in what you
>drink? You may as well go over to the gourmet food group and ask which
>is better- Burger King of McDonalds.

But, despite the posturing of the fanatical coffee-roasting, Barber-worshiping,
would-be elite, this is not alt.coffee.gourmet; it is alt.coffee. It's just as
appropriate here to mount a discussion on the best-testing freeze-dried instant
as it is the best green beans.

>The overwhelming vote here would be-
> C: Don't care.

Then why not simply vote that way, or ignore the thread altogether, instead of
mounting a personal attack on what might be a perfectly innocent person with a
relatively simple question?

-- Larry


   
Date: 08 Nov 2006 08:40:15
From: notbob
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On 2006-11-08, pltrgyst <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org > wrote:

<modquote >
> But, despite the posturing of the fanatical coffee-roasting, Barber-worshiping,
> would-be elite, this is not alt.coffee.gourmet; it is alt.coffee. It's just as
> appropriate here to mount a discussion on the best-testing freeze-dried instant
> as it is the best green beans.
</modquote >

Thank you.

nb


 
Date: 07 Nov 2006 21:32:39
From: notbob
Subject: Re: which is better, Peet's Coffee or Starbucks?
On 2006-11-08, Art <artjasmine01@yahoo.com > wrote:
> was wondering which people find better and why... Peet's Coffee or
> Starbucks.

They both suck.

nb